thoughts on adding tren to cycle

[Hosehead]

Hey Prae. I am 4 weeks into a 12 week cycle of T400 . Thinking about adding in some eq or tren. I should have stated the EQ at the beginning and since it will be a 16 week cycle at 800mg I think it may be too late given that I never notice EQ until week 6. Give it being a long ester I always stop EQ four weeks before the last test shot. I used 50 mg EOD tren ace last year for 5 weeks and loved it , although an elbow injury stopped the whole thing and I shut down hard . I had very no sides off it last time but loved the vascularity and hardness. Diet is in check although I have lost 7 lbs due to a current nasty stomach virus. Thoughts appreciated. This was me last yer after 5 weeks and a very poor diet

[Praetorian]

Two very different compounds...EQ is much milder on the system so duration can be longer...ten ace is strong and works well but many see sides. I usually dont recommend tren unless competing but its your choice. either way overall results wont be much different except cosmetically.

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[Odysseus]

Two very different compounds...EQ is much milder on the system so duration can be longer...ten ace is strong and works well but many see sides. I usually dont recommend tren unless competing but its your choice. either way overall results wont be much different except cosmetically.

P

Over the spring/summer/early fall I actually used tren for 20 weeks. No issues and initial gains were unbelievable... but gains stagnated by around week 17-18 until I added in extra test. I read a lot about EQ causing really bad anxiety. Have you personally experienced that? I am very prone to anxiety and thats the only reason I have never tried EQ.


P.S. Hosehead bro you still looked big even with that "poor diet." Nice arms.

[Praetorian]

Trouble is many use different compounds and say thy did not see any sides etc bu had no idea their BP was high during that time..slowly killing their kidneys. If you choose to use stronger compounds such as tren, adrol, halo etc i would highly recommend checking your BP weekly. The other issue people wont see until they actually come off and run PCT is that with long duration tren use your libido will be over stimulated and when you stop all gear and run PCT even when test levels return to normal your libido may be non existent for months.

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[Odysseus]

Trouble is many use different compounds and say thy did not see any sides etc bu had no idea their BP was high during that time..slowly killing their kidneys. If you choose to use stronger compounds such as tren, adrol, halo etc i would highly recommend checking your BP weekly. The other issue people wont see until they actually come off and run PCT is that with long duration tren use your libido will be over stimulated and when you stop all gear and run PCT even when test levels return to normal your libido may be non existent for months.

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I would definitely agree with this being the case with most people. But personally, bp symptoms manifest in the way of frequent nosebleeds and headaches. I have never had bp issues except when I ran dbol, which I will never touch again.

My baseline bp is 120/80, and even the last time I had my checkup when I ran really fast to the doctor's office worrying that I was late, it was still 120/80, which surprised the hell out of me considering bp should be higher if you are running. The only lab values I worry about with any type of anabolic use is HDL/LDL. With HDL it is mostly genetic and mine goes back to normal ranges when I come off and use niacin and omegas, but for the most part my HDL will never be as high as my girlfriend's. Might be because estrogen is protective as well.

As for libido, I find that proviron is usually what will keep things feeling normal. But strangely enough, my libido seems to be stronger when I'm natural (completely off for months) than it is when I'm on (even on high test). No clue why that is.

Have you ever experienced anxiety issues with EQ though, Prae? I never had anxiety issues with tren but I've heard about EQ being specifically bad for anxiety. Wish I still had the link to the article that addresses this.

[Praetorian]

Many guys I know have much stronger libido when off...this tends to decline with age however but it was like that with me as well. Some things like tren can drive it up but its fleeting and not consistent. The other issue is tren over stimulates the libido and when you go off it will take a long time to get it back. I find EQ very weak and really only use it for tendon benefits. I dont get anxiety on it but it does totally kill libido for me so i tend to prefer deca over EQ...some guys are the opposite.

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[Hosehead]

I get anxiety on EQ on anything over 400 mg . Love the vascularity though.

[Odysseus]

I get anxiety on EQ on anything over 400 mg . Love the vascularity though.

That's what I'm worried about and that's also why I never ran it. I might give it a go later on though. Maybe at 300?