Predictions for the Mr. Olympia 2014!

[Primal]

Was recently talking to a fellow gym go-er who is going to the Olympia this year, and it got me thinking about the line up for the 50th. I think the great thing about bodybuilding is that there are so many differences, opinions and hopes of every individual that it is easy to get hyped about a bodybuilder or the show even with little to no pictures or progress of the bodybuilder shown. In this case, the 'what if' game is a lot more suspenseful and interesting! Not to mention that everyone has their hopefuls! Haha, I remember last year when people where getting so pumped about how "if Jay comes in shredded to the bone he'll give Phil and Kai a run for their money!"

With all of this being said, I'm curious as to who you think will take which place in this year's Olympia! I haven't seen many pictures at all of Phil, I think he stopped posting pictures of himself in his condition like 2 months ago or maybe even more (at least on his instagram). People are really quick to say that he will take this years Olympia again, what do you guys think about this? The last pictures I think I saw of Kai where ones posted by his trainer 6 weeks out. He looked pretty lean but the pictures where bad to say the least. Haha, he wears so much clothes all the time when he's training it's pretty hard to see what his physique looks like... ever. Lots of people also riding the Big Ramy bandwagon now, they say in a year or two he is going to rival Phil Heath? Really want to hear your guys thoughts on this, tons of people think he will make top 5 this year which would be pretty cool!

Any thoughts on Dennis Wolf, Dexter Jackson or anybody else? I've got my own list of the top 10 but I really want to hear all yours first! 18 days out as of writing this!

-Primal

[cog]

Hopefully Heath does not win again,his abs were sub par.Wolf has the right physique IMO .Kai is impressive but that waist...

[Primal]

You don't like Heath just because of his abs? I thought he looked really good last year all around but maybe that was just because Kai came in off (in my opinion). Wolf looked insane and I think he worked with the crowd really well which gave him a lot of hopefuls for him this year. I thought it was more about Kai's gut to be honest cog... You can't really do much about the waist because it is genetic, right?

-Primal

[Hosehead]

I hope Kai never wins. IMO he is a disgrace to pro bodybuilding and there are far more aesthetic builds out there. I doubt that he'd win even IF he had the best build up there. The powers that be won't let it happen. He ****ed grapefruits for Christ sake ! The dancing ! The outfits ! The ****ing hair ! Heath beats him easily. Wolf has those high lat inserts but he's great in overy other way. Dexter could easily win. Freeman is flawless. IF Victor could ever nail his conditioning I think he'd win. IMO he's got the best genetics of anyone. I wish Branch Warren would retire. His arms, particularly his forearms, are so far behind the rest of his body that he doesn't belong on stage with the other names I've mentioned. Heath will win.

[cog]

You don't like Heath just because of his abs? I thought he looked really good last year all around but maybe that was just because Kai came in off (in my opinion). Wolf looked insane and I think he worked with the crowd really well which gave him a lot of hopefuls for him this year. I thought it was more about Kai's gut to be honest cog... You can't really do much about the waist because it is genetic, right?

-Primal

Just because of his abs?No.IMO too much is made of low lats,kai has low lats and he looks very blocky,I have avoided looking at the off stage antics Hosehead,not sure I would want to look.A near perfect waistline should count for more,look at Dexters waist.Something seriously wrong with Branch's upper body ......

[TT Eric]

I hope Kai never wins. IMO he is a disgrace to pro bodybuilding and there are far more aesthetic builds out there. I doubt that he'd win even IF he had the best build up there. The powers that be won't let it happen. He ****ed grapefruits for Christ sake ! The dancing ! The outfits ! The ****ing hair !

LOL You forgot the nipples that look like baby dicks!!

Eric

[Primal]

I hope Kai never wins. IMO he is a disgrace to pro bodybuilding and there are far more aesthetic builds out there. I doubt that he'd win even IF he had the best build up there. The powers that be won't let it happen. He ****ed grapefruits for Christ sake ! The dancing ! The outfits ! The ****ing hair ! Heath beats him easily. Wolf has those high lat inserts but he's great in overy other way. Dexter could easily win. Freeman is flawless. IF Victor could ever nail his conditioning I think he'd win. IMO he's got the best genetics of anyone. I wish Branch Warren would retire. His arms, particularly his forearms, are so far behind the rest of his body that he doesn't belong on stage with the other names I've mentioned. Heath will win.

I have to agree Hosehead, even if Kai had the best physique on stage I think his past actions would still override the fact. The hair and costumes are a personal thing and although they might look a bit odd sometimes it's nothing compared to him and the grapefruit. Also, Kai has really lagging traps in my opinion and his back doesn't have any definition. Like cog said, it's just a block. Personally to me, I don't like that look. Heath beats him easily in the back. I saw pictures of Martinez before he went to jail and wow... Plenty of people were saying he was an uncrowned Olympia and I can't help but agree. After seeing him in Generation Iron I can't help but feel bad for him, he's had it pretty tough so I'm rooting for him a lot.

Haven't seen too much of Branch at all. Never was one of my favourite physiques. Thoughts on Shawn Rhoden? I think he has the perfect physique in my opinion... What about Ramy? Any of you guys like him?

-Primal

[steve_d]

I had a copy of muscle insider magazine thrown in from supplements I ordered recently. There was a predictions section, with odds. They gave phil 1:1 odds. IE - 50/50 chance for him vs. anyone else. I think Phil has more like an 80% chance. There isn't a whole lot of people who could take him out. Usually these guys don't improve drastically enough. It's not like kai was off and needs to come in sharp to have a chance. He's already at what I consider his best so there isn't the element of surprise that can happen there. Honestly, the only one that has a chance is big ramy. It's a guy like that that could all of a sudden come on WAY WAY WAY sharper and then shock everyone. No one else can improve enough to take over Phil (assuming phil is equal or even better then last year).

EX. Branch at his best can never win. Dexter at his best already won, and while the rumors are that he put on 5-6 pounds on his frame, I have a hard time believing that he can change drastically enough in his mid 40s. You never know though, and honestly it is what I want to see the most. He would be my hope for a win - but like I said, I doubt it can happen. He'll be top 5 though if he has typical dexter condition.

The odds were something like 2:1 for Kai (ie 33% chance). I was shocked to see shawn rhoden at 15:1. there were others too, like wolf, and branch, juan, but they had shitty odds like 25:1 or 50:1.

In any case, my odds go like this:

80% chance for phil.
10% chance for kai.
9% chance split between dexter, wolf, rhoden
1% Ramy. But if Ramy wins, consider him the new man.

If anyone else wins, it will continue to be anyones game for years to come.

[cog]

Kai with perfect condition is simply more spectacular standing next to Phil.Perfect condition and Kai wins.

[Praetorian]

I see a two man show...depends on what the judges want...if both come in top shape its either Phil or Ramy. Kai is the Rich Gaspari of the 2000's...hell always be second or worse but never win...he has too many weaknesses compared to Phil or Ramy.

P