Thanks i figure take my time dont need to burn my self out with ridicolous #s, I think ill take a real long off season this year and i wanna be 230+ next show.Originally Posted by phatkid77
Thanks i figure take my time dont need to burn my self out with ridicolous #s, I think ill take a real long off season this year and i wanna be 230+ next show.
What I am about to say will piss some people off (like those who use personal trainers to build their physique), but hopefully we can have a healthy debate about it. Some people can train themselves and build their physique, whilst others need others to help them build their physique. Lee Haney, 8 times Mr Olympia said there are "Shepherd" and there "Sheep". He said that the shepherd can always find their way home. The sheep are lost without the shepherd. They cannot find their way home. Lee Haney said "I am a shepherd". Examples of Shepherds just to name a few include 7 times Mr. Olympia Arnold Schwarzenegger, 8 times mr olympia Lee Haney, 6 times mr olympia Dorian Yates and 8 times mr olympia Ronnie Coleman. So do you consider yourself a "Shepherd" or a "Sheep"? I hope people do not get mad and we can a healthy discussion about what Lee Haney said. Of course Ronnie Coleman said "Lightweight Baby".
Doesnt matter how you get there if you have guidance or no guidance(which is rare since there is always some guidance even if not mentioned) BTW coleman is no shepherd without chad nichols or brain dobsen he aint winning no olympias. No one is doing everything alone
Hassan looking good coming into the show! Yep its been a while 08 I guess in Montreal. Been away from from pretty much everything bodybuilding with family issues, moving and building a new house. Nice break to get rested up and heal, but this time of year gets you fired up to get in contest shape.
I think your right if you were to be 230 plus it would suit your body type better. You have long limbs and takes alot to fill that real estate out. In addition to your height you have so much room for growth. But look out when it is because your thick and have big round muscles as it is now. I just don't think that pictures do you any justice. You look so much thicker in person.
Good luck!
Mathew Roberts has a nice physique. Even as a junior he just had thick muscles for a guy so young. In '07 I believe may have been his first provincials and 20yrs old he was lacking in conditioning. I see since then he has fixed that and looks nice and crisp at his last two provincials. He dosen't seem to be rushing to jump into the Nationals. Which in my opinion is a good plan for him since he is making good solid gains slowly and should be a solid heavy weight when ever he decides to go to the Nationals.
Seems to be modest and good guy to boot when I briefly spoke with him in 07.
Another guy that should do well in the SHW is Jerome Bravo if he bring good conditioning.
Last edited by bluenose; 26-09-2011 at 02:34 PM.
How do you figure Ronnie was a shepherd? Chad Nichols ring a bell?
I lost 20 pounds...How? I drank bear piss and took up fencing. How the **** you think, son? I exercised.
Well Jay Cutler, Phil Heath and Kai Green use coaches (top 3 guys in bodybuilding). It's weird how guys coach others and then pay someone to coach them. I understand having a second set of eyes and not having to think etc. But personally i coach myself. I don't think there's anything wrong with it mind you...i just don't understand it.
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Everyone has people that guide or help them! Some are more honest that others......Like the ones we pay! I worked with Chad because I wanted to learn more which I did and I wanted to take the guess work out of the contest prep. Hassan does the same with Fouad/George. These guys will give you the best!
Now, dumb ass friends telling you that "you look great bud"......"slamming it out of the park" or "your going to take the show" just because you look good in the gym is not the best guidance! You will spin your wheel for years and won't progress.
People do it themselves and good for them, but I personally like to have a coach!
Last edited by bluenose; 26-09-2011 at 02:44 PM.
How do you know you couldn't be doing better with a different approach?
I personally don't really care. I went to hockey clinics, football clinics and did a lot of 1-on-1 work with various pro coaches when i was playing football. I did these things so i could improve in my sport and be the best that i could. You'll never know different or get better if you always do what you've always done.
And DK you maybe do your own personal training/prep stuff but you likely had to learn somewhere, reading articles, forums, journals etc so you're likely using borrowed knowledge just like MOST people are for everything in what they do. Few are revolutionary types and history denotes that...
I lost 20 pounds...How? I drank bear piss and took up fencing. How the **** you think, son? I exercised.
Different approach is the key. From one coach to the next it is completly different. I gain 10 pounds of contest weight in one year just on approach alone. I completly changed my look by working with a good coach. The offseason was definately a very key component to this...not the usual blow to 277 ish pounds but 250-255 was the start.
Last edited by bluenose; 26-09-2011 at 03:20 PM.
Haney Had Ty "Ropeman" Felder today trains NPC athletes
Yates Had Leroy Davis
These guys were not "Gurus", but training partners from the start and were very close and for sure relied on one another!
Bahh Bahh Bahh! Is that sheep? LOL
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