Tony Searle

[phatkid77]

Far as I know..last week he was 209lb, I'm thinkin and hoping he has learned his lesson.. I'd kill for 1/3 of his genetics..but potential will only get ya so far.. Still got to do work.. I want to see him absolutely peeled..

[natenator]

Far as I know..last week he was 209lb, I'm thinkin and hoping he has learned his lesson.. I'd kill for 1/3 of his genetics..but potential will only get ya so far.. Still got to do work.. I want to see him absolutely peeled..

At lower level shows you can get by with less comditioning and make up for it with size but at a national level show, not a chance. Or rather, very often not a chance. There have been some squeekers lol

[freaky abs]

Prior to 2009, you had to place in the top 3 to qualify for the Nationals. Today 4th and 5th place finishers now squeeze thru to the next stage. If you place 4th or 5th place at the provincials, you do not stand a chance at the Nationals.

[BigGuns21]

Prior to 2009, you had to place in the top 3 to qualify for the Nationals. Today 4th and 5th place finishers now squeeze thru to the next stage. If you place 4th or 5th place at the provincials, you do not stand a chance at the Nationals.

I disagree with that. I was 4th at Provincials this year, a very close 3rd but guarantee you I will belong on the National stage next year. Some may come in the same every show but I've made steady improvements each year in my symetry and conditioning. Size is not an issue as I'm always one of the biggest in my class. If you utilize your offseason properly you can make massive changes in a year's time. Did I belong on the National stage this year? Not a chance, improvements were needed and they will be made by next August.

[phatkid77]

Hopefully ur gettin some extra arm sessions in lol ****er

[steve_d]

I disagree with that. I was 4th at Provincials this year, a very close 3rd but guarantee you I will belong on the National stage next year. Some may come in the same every show but I've made steady improvements each year in my symetry and conditioning. Size is not an issue as I'm always one of the biggest in my class. If you utilize your offseason properly you can make massive changes in a year's time. Did I belong on the National stage this year? Not a chance, improvements were needed and they will be made by next August.

I somewhat agree...but I guess it depends what people use the word belonging to mean...Tim Love came 5th at provincials last year if I recall, and everyone says he will do damage this year. Personally I am a little skeptic on anyone unable to place top 3 at provincials being able to 'do damage' at nationals the year later. 1 year is not a lot of time, and unless you either showed up out of shape and came top 5 in an easy class, then you will not 'do damage'...Belong their, yes, but be in contention...no, that takes YEARS from placing 5th in a province to going to nationals.

but yes, for sure 4th and 5th place finishers in the largest province in the hard weight classes should be allowed to compete at nationals...doesn't mean they will place, but neither does winning provincials! top 3 at nationals is no joke.

It also depends a lot on the weight class you were in...I DON'T believe a 5th place finisher in light middle or lower should compete at nationals...they will get slaughtered. Particularly when there is often less than 5 guys in those lighter classes! I think there were 6 in my class last year. Should all but 1 get to do nationals? seems a little easy.

[freaky abs]

I somewhat agree...but I guess it depends what people use the word belonging to mean...Tim Love came 5th at provincials last year if I recall, and everyone says he will do damage this year. Personally I am a little skeptic on anyone unable to place top 3 at provincials being able to 'do damage' at nationals the year later. 1 year is not a lot of time, and unless you either showed up out of shape and came top 5 in an easy class, then you will not 'do damage'...Belong their, yes, but be in contention...no, that takes YEARS from placing 5th in a province to going to nationals.

but yes, for sure 4th and 5th place finishers in the largest province in the hard weight classes should be allowed to compete at nationals...doesn't mean they will place, but neither does winning provincials! top 3 at nationals is no joke.

It also depends a lot on the weight class you were in...I DON'T believe a 5th place finisher in light middle or lower should compete at nationals...they will get slaughtered. Particularly when there is often less than 5 guys in those lighter classes! I think there were 6 in my class last year. Should all but 1 get to do nationals? seems a little easy.

Well said Steve D, you know your bodybuilding man.

[natenator]

I think the point being made isnt that you won't belong on a national stage but rather you won't stand a chance at a top 3 finish on a national stage in the 4 or 5 position coming from provincials.

You have made big improvements in 3 years but you have a long way still to go to fill out areas to counterbalace the size of your delts and arms. Lat width needs to improve as you arms hide a lot, legs still need a lot of size to match your upper (have made great progress here already) and chest still needs to fill out.

I'm in agreement that 4th and 5th won't be normally (keyword) competitive on a national stage.


I think the move from top 3 to allowing 4th and 5th waters down the talent pool at the national level a but. Much in the same way the IFBB is moving away from top 3 in shows for olympia qualifications - to try and ensure they have the best on stage.

I disagree with that. I was 4th at Provincials this year, a very close 3rd but guarantee you I will belong on the National stage next year. Some may come in the same every show but I've made steady improvements each year in my symetry and conditioning. Size is not an issue as I'm always one of the biggest in my class. If you utilize your offseason properly you can make massive changes in a year's time. Did I belong on the National stage this year? Not a chance, improvements were needed and they will be made by next August.

[freaky abs]

I think the point being made isnt that you won't belong on a national stage but rather you won't stand a chance at a top 3 finish on a national stage in the 4 or 5 position coming from provincials.

You have made big improvements in 3 years but you have a long way still to go to fill out areas to counterbalace the size of your delts and arms. Lat width needs to improve as you arms hide a lot, legs still need a lot of size to match your upper (have made great progress here already) and chest still needs to fill out.

I'm in agreement that 4th and 5th won't be normally (keyword) competitive on a national stage.


I think the move from top 3 to allowing 4th and 5th waters down the talent pool at the national level a but. Much in the same way the IFBB is moving away from top 3 in shows for olympia qualifications - to try and ensure they have the best on stage.

I agree Natenator, the move from top 3 to allowing 4th and 5th place winners to get in reduces the quality talent that should be at a Canadian National Championships.

[Delt King]

A fourth place finisher in Ontario in the heavier classes is likely equal to a second place qualifier in a smaller province just based on population. Shouldn't he get the same chance as the other of getting beat at Nationals. lol

Nationals is a whole other ball game...it was a huge eye opener for me for sure.

18 days to go. And we will see who decided to bring the best package.