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    Ketotifein really does nothing.

    Start clen at 20mcg twice a day and increase by 20mcg every 2 weeks until you reach 140mcg and leave it there til done dieting.

    T3 can also be added in the same fashion as clen.
    I lost 20 pounds...How? I drank bear piss and took up fencing. How the **** you think, son? I exercised.

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    A buddy of mine wants to start this diet but he is allergic to egg whites.

    Meal #6 gives the option of shake or eggs but Meal #1 gives no option... only eggs.

    What would be the best food to swap for egg whites?

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    i was just wondering why clen and not eca?

    is clen not a "stimulant"

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    Clen is NOT a stimulant
    I lost 20 pounds...How? I drank bear piss and took up fencing. How the **** you think, son? I exercised.

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    I personally hated ECA, or as I took it, EC. I felt cracked out all the time or hungover from it on my days off.

    I'm going the Clen and T3 route this time (along with a couple other things).

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    yea, that seems to be a complaint i hear alot about eca, although i myself actually love it, it helps curb the appetite a bit, and gets me goin in the morning, i kinda like feeling wired in the morning, Im bit of a stimulant junkie though...

    is there some sort of specific negative effect it will have while on this diet though?

    i wanted to stay natty for a while untill spring, so t3 is out of the question due to its abilility to catabolize lbm withought the use of gear. Around may im gonna do a prop/tren/mast cycle to add a few lb's and get extremely shredded

    Im planning on cutting on this diet for january to may. My bf if quite high right now, id say 18-20% and i want to be sub 10% for the summer. So its a long road ahead lol, clen seems to be the way to go then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogrew View Post
    A buddy of mine wants to start this diet but he is allergic to egg whites.

    Meal #6 gives the option of shake or eggs but Meal #1 gives no option... only eggs.

    What would be the best food to swap for egg whites?
    Do a chicken or tilapia and cashew meal for meal 1
    I lost 20 pounds...How? I drank bear piss and took up fencing. How the **** you think, son? I exercised.

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    thx nate.

    i would consider having a glass of greentea with 24mg ephedra since the tea already has the caffeine in it

    is taking creatine an option on this diet?
    just take it after workout then probably when its most effective?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogrew View Post
    thx nate.

    i would consider having a glass of greentea with 24mg ephedra since the tea already has the caffeine in it

    is taking creatine an option on this diet?
    just take it after workout then probably when its most effective?
    not the same thing... caffeine is typically taken in around 200mg doses. i think green tea would have like what, 30-40mg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by InPursuitOfPerfection View Post
    yea, that seems to be a complaint i hear alot about eca, although i myself actually love it, it helps curb the appetite a bit, and gets me goin in the morning, i kinda like feeling wired in the morning, Im bit of a stimulant junkie though...

    is there some sort of specific negative effect it will have while on this diet though?

    i wanted to stay natty for a while untill spring, so t3 is out of the question due to its abilility to catabolize lbm withought the use of gear. Around may im gonna do a prop/tren/mast cycle to add a few lb's and get extremely shredded

    Im planning on cutting on this diet for january to may. My bf if quite high right now, id say 18-20% and i want to be sub 10% for the summer. So its a long road ahead lol, clen seems to be the way to go then.
    If you want to cut naturally and are looking for a fat burner with little to no stimulant effects, try SPECIES' Lipolyze and Somalyze products. Dave Palumbo uses these for pre contest with his natty competitors


 
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