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    Ya but isnt the test in juice chemically engineered? or is it just pulled from animals or synthesized. Oh and btw I have nothing against people who use, I just chose to compete natural myself. To eat his own..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natty View Post
    Ya but isnt the test in juice chemically engineered? or is it just pulled from animals or synthesized. Oh and btw I have nothing against people who use, I just chose to compete natural myself. To eat his own..
    Creatine is chemically engineered. Whey protein is chemically engineered. ALL Supplements are chemically engineered.

    Natural to me as is LG3 defined it... nothing but gym and whole food. Anything that "enhances" your natural abilities which supplements do is to me not natural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by natenator View Post
    Creatine is chemically engineered. Whey protein is chemically engineered. ALL Supplements are chemically engineered.

    Natural to me as is LG3 defined it... nothing but gym and whole food. Anything that "enhances" your natural abilities which supplements do is to me not natural.
    Well there is very few if any of those in all the organizations I have competed with. Maybe they should call it something else? Like legal bodybuilding like someone else suggested? I dunno I just always thought if you werent using anything on the banned substance lists you are given as a natural competitior, you were a natural bodybuilder? Whatever I compete steriod, slin, diuretic, and gh free that to me is a natural bodybuilder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natty View Post
    Well there is very few if any of those in all the organizations I have competed with. Maybe they should call it something else? Like legal bodybuilding like someone else suggested? I dunno I just always thought if you werent using anything on the banned substance lists you are given as a natural competitior, you were a natural bodybuilder? Whatever I compete steriod, slin, diuretic, and gh free that to me is a natural bodybuilder.
    Oh I am not talking specifically about what an organization deems "banned" or not. I am talking about what truly is natural bodybuilding which to me is nothing more than whole food, water and a gym membership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritch View Post
    How much red meat does it take to get 5 grams?
    1lb

    correction.....1 kg is equal to 3-5 grams of creatine, but most is destroyed through cooking....the body uses 2 grams per day.....stored in brain, testes, pancreas and other organs, we have about 120 grams stored in our bodies...thats what i found...sorry for stating wrong answer previous...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritch View Post
    How much red meat does it take to get 5 grams?
    1 kilogram of uncooked meat is 4 grams. not sure how much is lost when u cook it.

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    Thanks physique and ironwill. I knew it wasen`t a reasonable task to get your creatine from meat. That amount is just rediculous to have to pound in day day out...
    If consumer magazine claims to know what consumers want, how come they`re still a magazine?

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    Nate, you got a nice set of wheels going on haha. props.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timbo89 View Post
    Nate, you got a nice set of wheels going on haha. props.
    lol thanks

    better pic in my prep thread lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by natenator View Post
    Creatine is chemically engineered. Whey protein is chemically engineered. ALL Supplements are chemically engineered.

    Natural to me as is LG3 defined it... nothing but gym and whole food. Anything that "enhances" your natural abilities which supplements do is to me not natural.
    I agree most supplements are not food source, and are chemical by nature. Creatine, pre and post drink mixes, etc... but whey protein is not one of them. It is still derived from real dairy. It may be heavily refined and processed, but it still originates from natural food source ingredients.


 
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