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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by natenator View Post
    why haven't sub q injects for gear become more popular if its so painless AND the potency is still just as good as IM?
    thats the point of this thread.... if you read back you will see more then a few guys make comments such as "this doesn't "seem" right" or "why re-invent the wheel".
    It is silly.

    I am all for this, and when IM volumes get too high, will be doing SUBQ to alleviate. Or... for that matter, if I am doing LOW volume, like 1-2 cc per week, I will prob opt for sub q. So much easier and faster, and far less risky

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoooBaby View Post
    Um. . .pretty sure the pain everyone is trying to avoid isn't the actual shot. . if you seriously use pain killers to do shots then. . wtf. It hurts as much as a mesquito bite. It's the HUGE golf ball size lump people doin 3cc shots are looking to avoid lol.

    I recently tried going a little further to the anterior on a glute shot. . .not a good idea. Manged to put it into a small muscle in there somewhere and it hurts like abtich, this thread sounds good. If I could do 1cc Im shots and just have a lil sore lump. . So much better than feeling like someone cranked me with a bat after a day. . .
    any pain I am concerned about is post injection muscle pain. crashed gear. solvent pain. hormone pain. bad location pain. high volume pain.

    The pinch of the needle just wakes me up a bit LOL Kinda like it

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    Is it possible to inject subQ with a 25g 1"? If I go at 45 degree angle and only put half in is it good enough or? Is there any way to know if you're injecting subq or directly in the fat? or are both the same thing anyway? Thank you.

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    So far so good, sticking to my Deletestryl dose... 1/2ml....

    Only one shot hurt... scale of 1-10... a 2.5... rest have been 1's... (This is post injection pain, not actual injection pain.)

    Only lasted two days.

    It's working... 5 shots so far.

    I wouldn't use anything but a 29 gauge slin pin.. these are meant for sub q, sure it's slow, but works just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waderow View Post
    thats the point of this thread.... if you read back you will see more then a few guys make comments such as "this doesn't "seem" right" or "why re-invent the wheel".
    It is silly.

    I am all for this, and when IM volumes get too high, will be doing SUBQ to alleviate. Or... for that matter, if I am doing LOW volume, like 1-2 cc per week, I will prob opt for sub q. So much easier and faster, and far less risky
    Agreed. Most new ideas at first meet criticsim and resistance, and then finally when results prove they are effective the denial ends.

    It is said through studies that only 13% of the population can think for themselves, the other 87% need to be led, to be told what to do.

    Waderow is a 13%'er. Blazing his own trail.

    Wait to go brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neavris View Post
    Is it possible to inject subQ with a 25g 1"? If I go at 45 degree angle and only put half in is it good enough or? Is there any way to know if you're injecting subq or directly in the fat? or are both the same thing anyway? Thank you.
    i ran out of slin pins, and did one jab with a 25ga x 1". went in about 5/8" into higher abs off to side. it hurt a little bit more.... but worked

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    Quote Originally Posted by waderow View Post
    i ran out of slin pins, and did one jab with a 25ga x 1". went in about 5/8" into higher abs off to side. it hurt a little bit more.... but worked
    Good to know, i have a shitload of 25g 5/8" pin's... Ya i'm one the 87%ers
    Exploit the earth or die..

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    hummm I'm still wondering, when you inject subQ, do you inject straight into the fat or between the fat layer and the skin? Do you go at a 45 degree angle alike what most people on insulin injection do or at a 90 degree angle? Do you keep the skin pinched all along or do you pinch first, then needle, then release the skin, pull the plunger and inject?

    I'd like to try this but I want to be 100% sure how to do it

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    Alright, got tired of asking questions, I tried it. I used .5 test E in the belly, did 90 degree needle in on the side of the abs, about 4/8, pulled and injected. It's hard to keep the needle at the right spot while breathing, but it doesn't hurt. Didn't massage after, as is told to insulin users.

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    Just did 1cc Tren a sudQ shot in the Glute,very little pain and no tren cough.


 
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