Dave Palumbo Diet

[O-Train]

Ok, this is my last post. Your body isn't like a car. It doesn't switch from diesel to gas or electricity. It uses many different fuel sources simultaneously and converts many fuel sources into other things. Most of that takes place in the liver. Although like a car, depending on the activity level, the body will run "rich or lean" (I think that's the right terminology, I don't know anything about cars.) So more carbs vs. fat, more fat vs. carbs, probably always a small amount of protein but nothing is ever concrete. Nothing is ever exclusively used. There are so many things going on, so many hormones and transporters and ion levels that play a role that anything we talk about here is generalized beyone what anyone can even concieve.

I guess what it all boils down to is: I really like chips.

[fathead]

It's a great diet, try it ans see how you like it.

hey jo what have you used this diet for? cutting up only? maintenance? gains?

[gsxr750]

I used this as the basis for my current diet.. and i'm down 45 lbs. First week is tough, after that - smooth sailing.

[5151]

"Role of Carbohydrates

The roles of carbohydrate in the body includes providing energy for working muscles, providing fuel for the central nervous system, enabling fat metabolism, and preventing protein from being used as energy. Carbohydrate is the preferred source of energy or fuel for muscle contraction and biologic work.

Foods containing carbohydrate are in the grains, fruit, and milk groups. Vegetables have a small amount of carbohydrate.

After carbohydrate is eaten, it is broken down into smaller units of sugar (including glucose, fructose and galactose) in the stomach and small intestine. These small units of sugar are absorbed in the small intestine and then enter the bloodstream where they travel to the liver. Fructose and galactose are converted to glucose by the liver. Glucose is the carbohydrate transported by the bloodstream to the various tissues and organs, including the muscles and the brain, where it will be used as energy.

If the body does not need glucose for energy, it stores glucose in the liver and the skeletal muscles in a form called glycogen. If glycogen stores are full, glucose is stored as fat. Glycogen stores are used as an energy source when the body needs more glucose than is readily available in the bloodstream (for example, during exercise). The body has limited storage capacity for glycogen (about 2000 calories), which is why carbohydrate is commonly referred to as the limiting fuel in physical performance.

Carbohydrate spares the use of protein as an energy source. When carbohydrate consumption is inadequate, protein is broken down to make glucose to maintain a constant blood glucose level. However, when proteins are broken down they lose their primary role as building blocks for muscles. In addition, protein breakdown may result in an increased stress on the kidneys, where protein byproducts are excreted into the urine.

Finally, glucose is essential for the central nervous system. The brain primarily uses glucose as its energy source, and a lack of glucose can result in weakness, dizziness, and low blood glucose (hypoglycemia). Reduced blood glucose during exercise decreases performance and could lead to mental as well as physical fatigue".

This is all pretty basic. I'm only posting it because it seems like a lot of people jump on the no-carb bandwagon without really knowing anything about it.

Pretty good summary. I would say the 2000 calories really depends on the person but that's me arguing stupid minute details.

If you can show an actual study that had the participants eating a high protein diet at the same time as dropping carbs getting the same results I'd love to read it.

I don't get it. A carb+protein diet vs a protein diet? Well first no ethics board is going to approve a diet that removes ESSENTIAL fatty acids. Second I would say a diet that includes only one macro nutrient is going to be lower in calories and thus will have a great weight/fat loss.

I don't get what you're asking for. Maybe 5151 can find something. I copy and pasted that info from a University website. It seemed ok but it may be a little off. I really have no need to prove anything I write here.

You guys know that a lot of published peer reviewed journal articles are complete garbage right? At one point scientists believed the Earth was flat and at the center of the Universe. Journal articles just have a slightly better chance of being less wrong.

We need to have a cage match.



I have plenty more to say and will either when I get home or tomorrow. But I like what Hurley is saying so far there is some retarded shit in the Q&A. I will say there is nothing essential about a carbohydrate however they offer many benefits. Using a no/low carb diet or carb diet should really depend on your personal insulin sensitivity. I prefer a CKD offering to a straight up keto and wouldn't use either if you're doing fine with carbs. (well to be honest I'm the guy that loves trying everything). I will say if you're eating 300-400gs of protein and think none of it is being used for glucogenesis(I suck at spelling) or energy you are officially retarded.

[bossman_1986]

how is the strength on a diet like this?? can you gain strength and lean mass on this diet?

[Houstonbc]

if you want strength and lean mass go with the palumbo "bulking diet" pretty close to the same jusat with carbs added in

[natenator]

if you want strength and lean mass go with the palumbo "bulking diet" pretty close to the same jusat with carbs added in

yes. about 15-20 grams per meal except the last meal of the day.

[bossman_1986]

well my main goal would be to lose bodyfat, thats why im gonna do this diet, just wanna know if its possible to gain strength and lean mass while doing it

[natenator]

ANY diet will work for fat loss as long as you eat less than you require + training + cardio.

Any diet will get the job done. Gwetting below 10% however is where it becomes more difficult.

[JonnyO]

hey jo what have you used this diet for? cutting up only? maintenance? gains?

I used it on a guy I prepped for a show. It's not a diet you want to use for gains, unless your adding in carbs of course.

It's hard not to burn off some protein as gluco, and its hard to get a guy into ketosis if protein is too high too. I like to keep guys just border line of ketosis, but for experiments sake I tried real hard to get one guy into ketosis and couldnt do it fully. Everybody has different protein needs so its a balance of finding it for ones self.

For gains in mass I guess you could play with this diet (wink) and make sure you get yourself into full Ketosis, then take full advantage of SUPERCOMPENSATION for 3-4 days, then go to a protein/carb diet for a total of two weeks or so or you feel gains have halted, then get back into Ketosis and do it all over again. But who has the time to be so disciplined....lol.