I try to do as much reading/research as possible before asking a question but I am skeptical of results because with every positive read (muscle gain, fat loss)there are articles about them not working. I have read on here of some people using peptides, has anybody had any success with them if so what type, length of time needed for gains? I guess in short do they work/worth the money? I know the results will not be as good as the real stuff. Should a person who has trained half ass most of his life try them?