Dianabol Only

We don't have too too many of these Oral only threads here at CBB thank god, but we have the occasional silly question, I figured I would throw this up to get some of the people searching for Dbol Only, maybe make them read this over instead of posting a new thread... This is just my own opinion based on experience, observation and research, some people may not agree

Dianabol Only
The Greatest Thing Since The Square Wheel

Why do people lean towards Dbol only cycles?
-Well short and simple, there are a couple of reasons
- - People are scared to inject
- - People think orals are less dangerous or less intense than injectables
- - Dbol is very easy to get

What does Dbol offer?
- Quick visible gains, pure and simple. Dbol will deliver fast gains that seem unreal, both in strength and size.
- A seemingly easier alternative to injectable steroids.

Well it sounds great, whats the downside?
- Dbol and all steroids will shutdown natural production of testosterone, which can have a whole whack of negative effects, such as a significant decrease in sexual urges. However an injectable testosterone will not only combat this problem it will increase libido and much more things that make men, men.
- Dianabol is a great kickstart to a cycle because of the fast acting gains, however, anything that seems to good to be true typically is. Most of the weight gain from Dbol is water weight, or water retention, which is caused by the high conversion of methandrostenolone to estrogen. Once the dbol cycle is over all water will be dropped within a week or two, and you will loose anywhere from 50-90% of your gains depending on diet and training.
- Along with water retention, estrogen also brings other problems, such as gynomastia. Dbol converts to estrogen at a higher rate than any other steroid, which gives the chance of gyno strong pull.
- Although minor, all oral steroids cause problems in the liver. While most beliefs are over exaggerated, using injectable testosterone is much better for your liver. PS Milk Thistle will not help your liver, while using oral steroids or prohormones.

So, whats the verdict?
- Even though people will still use Dbol and other oral only cycles, there are much much better alternatives. Typically oral steroids cause more side effects than injectable counterparts, and dont offer nearly as many benefits. All in all, if you want to take diet, training, and enhanced supplementation seriously, look into a cycle of Testosterone, with proper support supplements.

Lets just hope the people considering this type of thing are actually smart enough to use the search function.... we can hope!

why won't milk thistle help?

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Originally Posted by walkingupstairs

why won't milk thistle help?

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Milk Thistle has very little science behind it, and the evidence is does have behind it is minimal improvement of cell regeneration, while when using AAS we are looking for detoxification and bile protectants

i think dbol only is fine, like it's not going to kill you or do you any major harm.

that said a cycle with testosterone is so much better

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Originally Posted by Kilburn

i think dbol only is fine, like it's not going to kill you or do you any major harm.

that said a cycle with testosterone is so much better

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did you read my post? I never said anything about it killing you, just showing pros and cons

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Originally Posted by Blitz-Test

did you read my post? I never said anything about it killing you, just showing pros and cons

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i know but some people espectially on bb.com act like mentioning dbol only is like a sin or something.

it's not the best cycle but i dont really give a fuk, people can do whatever the fuk they want. it doesnt make me angry or anything.

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Originally Posted by Kilburn

i know but some people espectially on bb.com act like mentioning dbol only is like a sin or something.

it's not the best cycle but i dont really give a fuk, people can do whatever the fuk they want. it doesnt make me angry or anything.

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there are a lot of idiots over there though.. some smart guys but lots of idiots too

BB.com is for n00b's and wanna be 'vets' since they think having rep power means something. Spewing off garbage like puppets.

Dbol only is not the best cycle, but works in low doses over 6+ weeks. **** it even works in high doses for long periods of time, look at the 70's BB's. The fact people claim you will lose 90% of your gains is ridiculous. Again, its' not the best cycle but it has it's purpose

IIRC,about 25 years ago a certain balding older(40's) former olympic lifter who wrote in a monthly magazine for some big shot supplement marketers,actually advocated a very minimal use of oral dianabol,I'm fairly certain he mentioned winnie as well until he got the bad boy talking to. He talked about 5mg eod,small enough to not completely overide his system,enough to harden his physique,which was small,he was about 5'8'' and 168 lbs ripped.He claimed his blood work was good,but I suppose many people here might feel that is small potatoes,possibly this has been disproven since,the man is still working out at 70.

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Originally Posted by giannos

BB.com is for n00b's and wanna be 'vets' since they think having rep power means something. Spewing off garbage like puppets.

Dbol only is not the best cycle, but works in low doses over 6+ weeks. **** it even works in high doses for long periods of time, look at the 70's BB's. The fact people claim you will lose 90% of your gains is ridiculous. Again, its' not the best cycle but it has it's purpose

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90% of your gains is not ridiculous with high sodium and low water, I have seen guys put on 40lb in a dbol cycle, to end up loosing 30lb

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Originally Posted by Blitz-Test

90% of your gains is not ridiculous with high sodium and low water, I have seen guys put on 40lb in a dbol cycle, to end up loosing 30lb

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And Ive seen guys put on 20 pounds over 8 weeks and keep 16 of it. So whats your point ?

85 % of all statistics are made up on the spot.

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Originally Posted by theboss

85 % of all statistics are made up on the spot.

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So true. But we still have our own experience. In mine, I did not like the look of Dbol puffery. Even my face was fatter. When i went off, so did the bloat with only miminal muscle gain. Never use it any more. For quick start, Test prop or Tren ace every time.

Solo

I've used dbol only in the past while dieting on a very low calorie diet and it was great. I was able to keep up the intensity of my workouts, not lose any muscle and still get great pumps. This is in great contrast to someone looking at running their first cycle to try and pack on mass to build a solid base. If you know what to expect and your goals are reasonable then I really don't see why not.

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Originally Posted by giannos

And Ive seen guys put on 20 pounds over 8 weeks and keep 16 of it. So whats your point ?

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I believe it... I am saying that people can loose almost all of gains if not all without proper diet

It all end up on the indivudal and how well he handles his cycle. I have seen several friends run dbol onlyh, get big and strong and two months later you can barely tell that they did roids.. why? because Dbol cycles only suck. Having that said, somebody experienced with a decent base will probably do better, but that person will probably never run dbol only.
IMO Dbol only is usually run by novices that will most likely loose most of their gains regardless. Dbol is just idiot proof enough that you will gain weight ( water) even if your diet and training sucks
I hate that shit because my hair falls out, because it gives me gyno and because I simply do not like that much water retention. Tbol rocks compared to that.

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Originally Posted by Blitz-Test

I believe it... I am saying that people can loose almost all of gains if not all without proper diet

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Fair enough... Diet and proper training still rein supreme over drugs any day.

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Originally Posted by Socially_Inept

I've used dbol only in the past while dieting on a very low calorie diet and it was great. I was able to keep up the intensity of my workouts, not lose any muscle and still get great pumps. This is in great contrast to someone looking at running their first cycle to try and pack on mass to build a solid base. If you know what to expect and your goals are reasonable then I really don't see why not.

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This is a great example of what a dbol only cycle can help with

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Originally Posted by monkey

It all end up on the indivudal and how well he handles his cycle. I have seen several friends run dbol onlyh, get big and strong and two months later you can barely tell that they did roids.. why? because Dbol cycles only suck. Having that said, somebody experienced with a decent base will probably do better, but that person will probably never run dbol only.
IMO Dbol only is usually run by novices that will most likely loose most of their gains regardless. Dbol is just idiot proof enough that you will gain weight ( water) even if your diet and training sucks
I hate that shit because my hair falls out, because it gives me gyno and because I simply do not like that much water retention. Tbol rocks compared to that.

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Good post. I am in no way advocating a newbie run a dbol only cycle. However, if one has their diet and training down, it's not the end of the world. Better choices ?? For sure there is. I have used the dbol bridge at 5mg ED and loved it. I have also heard of guys running 5-10mg ED for life with no toxicity issues. Again, Dbol only or orals only do have a place in BB if used correctly.

Some "natural" guys in my gym used Dinabol in lower dosages, 5-15mg/day. They claim that it helped with strength gains big-time, and that they were able to retain 50% of the muscle. The cycle was 1 month on 1 month off.

Anyway, personally I think I'm no-where near the need to use juice. At least for the next 2 more years.

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Originally Posted by prokyon

Some "natural" guys in my gym used Dinabol in lower dosages, 5-15mg/day. They claim that it helped with strength gains big-time, and that they were able to retain 50% of the muscle. The cycle was 1 month on 1 month off.

Anyway, personally I think I'm no-where near the need to use juice. At least for the next 2 more years.

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Why call them natural then......also your last sentance there is like one of the first time ive heard someone say they arent ready and are gonna wait, props to you bro!

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Originally Posted by OntariOMuscle101

Why call them natural then......also your last sentance there is like one of the first time ive heard someone say they arent ready and are gonna wait, props to you bro!

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Because they insist on the fact that they're still natural and that those low dosages don't count, which is clearly not the case. This is why they I have quotation marks on.

I like dianabol in low doses. Any more than about 20mg and I have serious blood pressure issues from it however.

There are far better drugs to use but 6 weeks of low dose dbol certainly wouldn't kill you. I just find that the risk/return ratio is so much better for test/nandrolone/trenbolone that it's not all that interesting.

I think I read this exact same thread 10 years ago. lol

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Originally Posted by japh

I think I read this exact same thread 10 years ago. lol

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Well I only wrote it 2 years ago, on bb.com, however very very common opinion, and there are always new idiots popping up

Yeah I agree. I was just kidding around. Its good to rehash old stuff sometimes. I remember when I first began to learn and a thread like this one was VERY helpful for myself.