I put up 315 x 12 today squatting, full ROM, into the hole. (Thats what she said)
My goal is to hit 315 x 15 by the end of the month?
Anyone here ever try that?
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I put up 315 x 12 today squatting, full ROM, into the hole. (Thats what she said)
My goal is to hit 315 x 15 by the end of the month?
Anyone here ever try that?
315x30. No need to wait that long. Take two large Red Bulls and you'll add the three reps next session.Quote:
Originally Posted by #8
Never made 315x15 but suspension right beforehand works well.
Im on 40mg a day of var and my regular 100mg Test E HRT.
The var merely keeps me from wasting while I do crazy cardio and eat low carb.
Serious sh!t. Congrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hosehead
Eric
Thanks. That was 4.5 years ago and I was on 300mg deca along with 750 test e. I think I was good for another two and had I been wearing a belt maybe five more. I drank two large Red Bull beforehand and after I racked the bar I thought I was having a heart attack. I told my training partner to go notify the front desk that I was in medical distress but then called him off. Then I told him to go get them and called it off a second time. I laid on the floor for about five minutes then went home lol. I'll NEVER try that again. Since then I've had two meniscus tears and one operation (since torn) in the left knee and I have a mildly torn mcl in the right. So I can't get down to the bottom anymore. But I am still good for 20 reps to parallel or slightly past it. Maybe 25 if I took enough pre workout shit. Not worth it IMO. I can use 315 for 15 more effectively than I used to use 405 for 15. I used to use my whole body in the squat, now I'm further back in the pocket and it's nothing but quads , hams and glutes. Much smarter now that the ego is gone. Having said all that , Prae benches that lol. Just when you think you may be strong..............Quote:
Originally Posted by TT Eric
One good reason I don't like high rep squats.I wonder about grinding out reps when your heart is already working so hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hosehead
Yeah tell me about it, this guy put things in perspective, I can't shake it of my head also, it's like he's there in each of my training reminding me how weak I am, lol. In my gym I receive regularly some compliments for something I lifted (I train in a GL so challenge in general is very low) I instantly think of Prae and say: 'Thanks, but I still think it's ridiculous, I know a guy who does xyz', 405x19... at close grip... 315x5 at BB curl... C'mon... but I use this to drive forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hosehead
Even though it's a warm-up for Prae, for the rest of the people that actually are humans, 315x30 is definitely impressive, no wonder your heart must wanted to get out, very few can do that, too bad your body took toll that day.
Coincidentally, my training partner sounded like you on Wednesday, we were having our usual brutal training and about 1 min after a huge set he said: ''Eric I think I'm having a heart attack'', was not sure if serious so I was laughing, then he said: ''no, no I'm serious'' and was holding his left side, I was hanging for a while watching him, but it went away, I told him to take it easy.
Eric
I agree with Hosehead 3 more reps should be easy to hit. How long are you waiting between warm up sets ?
495 for 15 parallel and no suit just knee wraps...back when my body didnt mind going heavy.
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So you added an extra plate for the same number of reps. You **** ! Oddly enough I could do 15 with 405 but topped out at 455x7 (with belt - I always used one with anything over 425) and 455 felt like my hips were going to rip off from the rest of my body. I didn't use wraps back then and I use thick Pling sleeves now. Wish I'd have used them back then. Last time I tried 405 I used sleeves but no belt. Got 8 reps. My body hurt for a week. It doesn't like anything over 365 now. Does HGH help significantly with joints in respect to pushing heavier weights at our age Prae ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Praetorian
I think it depends on how you do the set. How much rest between reps makes a huge difference IMO. I suppose if you waited 30 seconds between reps you'd bang out a few more. I hate anything above 15 for squats or leg press. That's what separates the men from the boys , me being a boy in that regard. IMO my 405x15 was nothing compared to my 315x30. I've also done 12 plates a side for 10 on the leg press , which is nothing compared to a guy who can do 6-8 plates per side for 50 reps. That takes balls. I don't got 'em.Quote:
Originally Posted by cog
No offense to the guys putting up crazy weight for huge reps, but parallel compared to buried in the hole are two totally different things.
Thats like half benching weight in my opinion.
I have very good hip mobility and overall body flexibility from being an athlete for many years so I can bury it right down with near perfect form till the end.
I think I can get three more by the end of the month, its just hard when I am so low carb and do a lot of cardio to prepare for an upcoming course.
I usually take about 1-2 min rest after my warm ups:
bar x 12
135 x 8
185 x 6
225 x 3-4
275 x 1-3
315 x ?
My best high rep was 225 x 25 buried a couple years ago. I never do anything less than FULL ROM squats because I dont have knee issues and I never wear a belt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjtVvYk1HWw
This how I used to squat. That low but nowhere near as heavy. Coolest training video ever IMO.
Ya, that video is mental. He bottoms right out on every rep. Insane weight for those reps.
I always use a PL belt on anything over 405...when I hit 495 for 15 i did use a belt and knee wraps. My reps are always below parallel with any weight because I started out training as a PL and unless you drop into the hole when training you pretty much screwed when you try a meet...so no half rep BS here. GH does help alot especially once you are over 35-40, recovery is better and knees feel much better. I also use joint supps such as Joint Plus and Arthrolyze by Species...the knees have taken a pounding with all the heavy training for the last 27 years. I dont go over 405 any more and I prefer to squat last in my routine so im not looking to push heavy just to really target the quad and hams and use a controlled movement...say 315 for 15 for 3-4 sets is good after i have done all ham work and high rep leg extensions and leg presses first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hosehead
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That's how every rep should be when squatting no matter what weight is used.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hosehead
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I thought this was bench press...Good lift #8. Keep going.
i love squatting, personally, i like to go up 5 lbs each session, then in short time, you are up high..Eat lots of nutrition, good rest before next attempt, mind focused, BOOOMMM
My last attempt at Benchpress high reps, i did 315 for 16 reps, then CC had to assist for # 17.
Long time no post ironwill, actually this morning I was wondering why you didn't showed up since a long time, nice to see you back.
Eric
I LOVE squatting, but mobility and lower back are a big issue.
The only way I was able to squat decent weight without hurting myself was with a machine similar to this:
http://www.westside-barbell.com/comp...e1-500x500.jpg
I know it's not the real deal, but as soon as I was hitting 275lbs on regular back squats my lower back was hurting and failing while the legs were fine and screaming for more. On a machine similar to this ^, I could put way more weight and push the legs since there was no pressure on the lower back at all. Wish I could have this at my gym.
Eric
Hey Eric,Quote:
Originally Posted by TT Eric
Its been about 5 months i havent been on boards very seriously.
I got quite ill, with a seratonin deficiency, from a misguided youth we will say and head trauma a few times. It caught up with me. I am now back in action, 120%. I didnt even realize how ill i was getting for a long while, it was gradual. Then i couldnt even walk without getting sick, room spinning, i was having seizures regularily, which ended up cracking my teeth in molar areas. Went to a million tests, and one SSRI pill at 50 mg day changed my entire life. # days and i was back to normal, within 2 weeks i was better than ive been in 10 yrs.
Anyway, you hear of this syndrome with football players, hockey players etc. It is like having the worst seasickness in your life, for days at a time, and then having seizures, and fainting on top of that. My life is awesome once again.
Sorry for hijack. Its been a couple of months now since ive been cured, and am getting everything back in order.:mock
Wow that was serious! Sounds like something that could have never been found and have been stuck with it forever. Glad you had a good diagnostician and glad that you are 120%!
Eric
I was just talking about this tonight with a buddy. I do squats last now so I can't get the ego involved. I find if I've exhausted my legs properly that by the time I get to squats all I can handle is 365x8-10. And taht's only every 2-3 weeks. Most weeks it's just a very slow controlled 315x15.Quote:
Originally Posted by Praetorian
Quote:
Originally Posted by ironwill
Good to have you back and healthy bro. I was wondering where you'd gotten to. I thought I said something wrong :) Welcome back.
maybe try a longer warm up. Then wait 5-7 mins before going for the 315x15. I know that sounds like a long time but it will help and not hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by #8
^^ Yes, this is good advice.
I like to keep rests short so my heart rate stays high. When I go for 15 this week I will take about 5 mins before I try.
I really am a firm believer in high rep training compared to low rep heavier weight. I know not any one method is ideal for all aspects, but since my training philosophy changed a while ago, I am in near the best shape of my life and much leaner to boot. Much of this can also be attributed to the diet lessons I learned from training with Prae. Ever since I got my body fat down into low single digits last year it has been much easier to re-attain / maintain it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by #8
When squatting your reps should be the same depth whether its 135lbs or 600lbs otherwise your form is brealking down and you need to lighten up and get full rom. My reps are the same depth through warmups to my max...thats the only whay youll ever get three green lights in a meet. So 495 is in the hole like any other weight...most PL would call this parallel but its actually lower because the hip joint is below the knee...in other words in the hole.
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