Dean Brandt slams most if not all Trainers who are BODYBUILDERS & FIGURE ATHLETES….

Dean Brandt slams most if not all Trainers who are BODYBUILDERS & FIGURE ATHLETES….

“BodyByBrandt Contest Prep: we specialize in the most popular categories: Bikini + Physique! If your training with a bodybuilder,or Figure athlete odds are your following the wrong style of training + diet. We also offer Vegan or vegitarian meal plans, all plans are custom made for each person based on their body type, goals and lifestyle. **You do not have to take any banned supplements to compete in bikini or mens physique*** if your trainer is pushing this on you , then find another trainer!!! I have experience training natural athletes for shows and non-natural, and this is a completely different process. Look for experience and proven results!”

Some of my replies:
Dawn Alison seriously are you ****ing kiddin me dean really???
Dawn Alison how to lose friends and alienate people !!!!!!!
Dawn Alison ummmnn i'm a bodybulder and my team kicked butt in kelowna a drug tested show... how the hell can you say such slaunderous nonsense reallly to stoop to this level to get clients really shows what type of person you are

Well, what were his replies?? The suspense is killin me here...

you can follow it here: http://www.facebook.com/MrRippedFreak

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Dawn Alison ummmnn i'm a bodybulder and my team kicked butt in kelowna a drug tested show... how the hell can you say such slaunderous nonsense reallly to stoop to this level to get clients really shows what type of person you are
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Dean Brandt the fact you think its directed at you dawn, says volumes. its a general statement.
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Dawn Alison no its not that i think its directed at me you are blanket labeling by saying your words "ODDS ARE IF YOU ARE TRAINING WITH A BODYBUILDER OR A FIGURE COMPETITOR" that means you are saying the majority of the trainers in BC who ARE BODYBUILDERS AND FIGURE COMPETITORS do not know how to train people
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Dawn Alison your words "ODDS ARE"
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Dawn Alison and my team results speak for themselves .... and there are tons of REALLY GREAT TRAINERS IN BC... that are bodybullders and figure competitors we don't go around bashing other trainers.... seriously you really have shown me today what kind of person you really are Dean Brandt
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Dean Brandt ‎"odds Are" means there are always exceptions. training has progressed and as you may or may not know doing the standard 3 sets of 10 reps is not the proper way to train either bikini or physique.
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Dean Brandt nothing I said in my statement is consider bashing, your getting emotional beacuse it says "Bodybuilder" and im saying the old style of bodybuilder training is wrong for these two new catagories
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Jeffrey Mac Isaac dean i love seeing what you post every day
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Dawn Alison OLD STYLE lol well the number of wins that us OLD STYLE TRAINERS HAVE AT THE SHOW speaks volumes that tried and proven methods work
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Dean Brandt dont get me started on making this post personal dawn. dont like my comments? stay off my FB page. pretty simple really.
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Dawn Alison bhahahaha aren't you the arrogant one.. why the hell would i come to YOUR FACEBOOK PAGE lol ??? someone directed me to your comments.... and yes it was another trainer.... and i am standing up for ALL THE GREAT TRAINERS IN BC cuz God gave me a voice and i use it ! and i'm not afraid to stand up for whatz right and speak my mind
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Dean Brandt and speaking your mind is great! otherwise I wouldn't have anyone to argue my points with. c u in kelowna. its on! #teamBodyBybrandt
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Jeffrey Mac Isaac whoa whoa lets everyone have fun when they come to Kelowna. i like a good atmosphere
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Reflex Langley dean brandt-stirring things up as usual.lol....# just saying
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Jeffrey Mac Isaac everyone has to behave at a POPEYES sponsored event LMFAO i couldnt resist
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Dean Brandt lol, any other companies/ Trainers want a free plug/post? join in.
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also i posted on my 3 facebooks pages
here's a few responses so far.....

Brian Barbarian Smith anything to try and get clients... people like that make me sick... why can't we all help each other instead of hurting one another
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Maria O'Hara Sharp When i saw this post it offended me as a new trainer trying to build my name...I am a figure competitor and have invested serveral years in training,educating and competing..I love the fact that we all have a passion and heart for the sport! we then transfer that to our clients and create a family feeling within our teams.Training clients first and formost should be for one reason..to see them achieve not for your business to get more exposure by slandering others..I look up to all the BC trainers as mentors and each one of us have different styles and techniques,that is what makes each us unique! It really is too bad that this has to be said on Facebook..thank you Dawn for standing up and not backing down..I value you!!Hugs
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Eboney Chipman Horrible!!!
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Dawn Alison exactly Maria... to me it's great to see so many great trainers here in BC we have turned out so many athletes from all areas for this VAST HUGE PROVINCE i have the utmost respect for so many of them... training people is my passion it's who i am, i'm a teacher, coach, trainer, a friend, i change lives for the better, i work at my craft 7 days a wk 24 hrs a day ask any one who's trained with me, i'm also the VICE PRESIDENT OF THE BCABBA the provinces BODYBUILDING ASSOC and without all these great trainers doin what they do, we don't have a sport, and association.... and we have some of the biggest best shows in the country KUDOS to all those trainers for passing on their knowledge and passion
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Mike Steele It's disgusting how low some people will stoop to in the name of business.

not to mention the pouring of emails i've been gettin from other trainers in the province of BC

i was originally directed to his facebook page by another trainer
thatz how i came to know about it

who is Dean Brandt never heard of him, never heard anyone credit him for PT

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who is Dean Brandt never heard of him, never heard anyone credit him for PT

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he used to own a REFLEX store here in BC
now he turned it into a KORE FIT LIVING STORE
his wife is IFBB Pro Leigh Brandt
she won the very 1st IFBB Pro card that was awarded in Canada
of course there were only like 7 chicks from the whole country in the class that was at the Nationals which were here in Vancouver, BC that yr

ok then so he owned a store and she accomplished something in the sport?

Just googled Dean Brandt weird he would post the stuff listed above. The shape he is in he obviously subscribed to the old training regime at one time.

Wow!!! Fun thread to follow.

First, Dawn, you (ur own) and Team Fit Body results speak for themselves...annually...not just this year. Consistently producing top quality athletes with great placings in novice, provincial and national shows in all categories. I am familiar with these athletes as their trainer / coach (you Dawn) is quick to applaud them with their placings and photos on here and other places and good for you for doing that for both self promotion and promotion of your athletes.

Dawn, you also provide lots of service (voluntarily) to the BCABBA with your participation as you have noted by sponsoring shows, bringing athletes to the show and holding an executive position.

As for Team Brandt, I know he trains lots of athletes but not being from the lower mainland, I couldn't identify any as just not familiar with the players down there other than the ones I have met personally. He too may produce lots of top finishers but I don't think (I may be wrong) he posts here and if he does he is low profile and obviously doesn't do any promotion of his athletes and results on here. I don't frequent FB so he may use that as a media tool. If he is not on here, he really can't defend himself and I'm not sure if he really needs or wants to. He can post what he wants on his FB page and if people don't like it and they are not named personally, it really doesn't concern them and don't frequent that page.

Dean promotes the BC Prov show and I don't think anyone could find fault with the job he does there...the show is always a classy event and run well...again with the required assistance and sponsorship of people like Dawn and BCABBA non-competing athletes as volunteer staff...

We are all competitive people if we are involved in any way in this subjective sport and we have 2 very competitive and very active members of the BCABBA at each other here on an open forum (at least the postings are ending up here from a FB page)...take a breath and let this pass. There is no need to post credentials and sever a releationship here that could adversely affect the credibility of the BCABBA for the future. You are both "professionals" at what you do and valued members of the BC Bodybuilding etc community...lets keep it that way on here for a better future for all of us here in BC...

Making a statement like that...ie generalizing illustrates his complete lack of professionalism...these type of people are only out for themselves, have little integrity and put their own interests ahead of their clients...beware and avoid.
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well to put down really all the top trainers in BC
which is essentially what he's doing
to me is the height of disrespect
and to think this is the guy promoting the BC Provincial level show
where we are bringing our clients to compete and making this guy money

now these are his words
"If your training with a bodybuilder,or Figure athlete odds are your following the wrong style of training + diet."

odds are ?
what does that mean?
well it translates to.... it is likely

let me list just some of the trainers off the top of my head
all of which are "ALL" BODYBUILDERS AND FIGURE ATHLETES THEMSELVES
and are the top producers of champions in BC

Sandra Wickham - IFBB Pro Fitness
Jeni Brisco - IFBB Pro Figure
Lori Mork - Figure Champion
Carlos Rabiei - IFBB Pro Bodybuilder
Darren Toma - IFBB Pro Bodybuilder
Nadia Nardio - IFBB Pro Bodybuilder
Latia del Riviero - IFBB Pro Bodybuilder
Desiree Ellis - IFBB Pro Bodybuilder
Tyrone Ashmeade - National level bodybuilder
Lara Toma - National level Figure
Breanne Seward - National Level Figure
Juan J - Bodybuilder
Maria Sharpe - National Champion Figure
Dawn Alison - National level Bodybuilder
Nicole Morgan - National level Figure

this....

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Originally Posted by fitbody

well to put down really all the top trainers in BC
which is essentially what he's doing
to me is the height of disrespect
and to think this is the guy promoting the BC Provincial level show
where we are bringing our clients to compete and making this guy money

now these are his words
"If your training with a bodybuilder,or Figure athlete odds are your following the wrong style of training + diet."

odds are ?
what does that mean?
well it translates to.... it is likely

let me list just some of the trainers off the top of my head
all of which are "ALL" BODYBUILDERS AND FIGURE ATHLETES THEMSELVES
and are the top producers of champions in BC

Sandra Wickham - IFBB Pro Fitness
Jeni Brisco - IFBB Pro Figure
Lori Mork - Figure Champion
Carlos Rabiei - IFBB Pro Bodybuilder
Darren Toma - IFBB Pro Bodybuilder
Nadia Nardio - IFBB Pro Bodybuilder
Latia del Riviero - IFBB Pro Bodybuilder
Desiree Ellis - IFBB Pro Bodybuilder
Tyrone Ashmeade - National level bodybuilder
Lara Toma - National level Figure
Breanne Seward - National Level Figure
Juan J - Bodybuilder
Maria Sharpe - National Champion Figure
Dawn Alison - National level Bodybuilder
Nicole Morgan - National level Figure

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Add JonnyO to that list sister!

is Dean competing in the physique at teh BC's?

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Add JonnyO to that list sister!

is Dean competing in the physique at teh BC's?

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yes Dean is competing at the BC's in Men's Physique
a good friend of mine who is an IFBB pro bodybuilder here in BC said i should post:
how can you train with some guy who hasn't done anything for himself


oh and here's some more names who are great trainers in BC's
JonnyO i don't know you personally so welcome to the list
also
IFBB Pro Athena Siganakis - Bodybuilder
IFBB Pro Kat Sartor - bodybuilder
IFBB Pro Autumn Raby - bodybuilder
Kosta Kromidas - National level bodybuilder
Jeremy Miskinis - bodybuilder
Lisa Coupar - National level figure
Dawn Collins - figure
Stephanie Green - bodybuilder

and theres many others
some from the Island, some up Northern BC

JonnyO....produced 3 of the last 4 BC overall champions, a National class winner in 2012 plus trains some of the "trainers" that have been listed...I guess you qualify JO...been a few years since you won at the NPC Emerald Cup and got 2nd at the BC's in HW class so you "may" still be a BB....lol.

If I was an athlete looking for a trainer, I'd sure as hell want to know JonnyO...especially for the "new physique" class. What color are your board shorts...and remember, no bling on your shorts buddy

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JonnyO....produced 3 of the last 4 BC overall champions, a National class winner in 2012 plus trains some of the "trainers" that have been listed...I guess you qualify JO...been a few years since you won at the NPC Emerald Cup and got 2nd at the BC's in HW class so you "may" still be a BB....lol.

If I was an athlete looking for a trainer, I'd sure as hell want to know JonnyO...especially for the "new physique" class. What color are your board shorts...and remember, no bling on your shorts buddy

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well maybe if he or you would give his real full name i'd know who it is
but a forum handle i don't know his identity

oh and by the way that list of names i've been giving is BC Trainers
theres so many hard to think of everyone off the top of my head
another...

Tamara Knight - bobybuilder

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Originally Posted by fitbody

yes Dean is competing at the BC's in Men's Physique
a good friend of mine who is an IFBB pro bodybuilder here in BC said i should post:
how can you train with some guy who hasn't done anything for himself


oh and here's some more names who are great trainers in BC's
JonnyO i don't know you personally so welcome to the list
also
IFBB Pro Athena Siganakis - Bodybuilder
IFBB Pro Kat Sartor - bodybuilder
IFBB Pro Autumn Raby - bodybuilder
Kosta Kromidas - National level bodybuilder
Jeremy Miskinis - bodybuilder
Lisa Coupar - National level figure
Dawn Collins - figure
Stephanie Green - bodybuilder

and theres many others
some from the Island, some up Northern BC

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Please!!!! You have him listed on the "secondary" list (JEREMY MISKINIS)...thus the jab at him...but he is trying his best to improve

I honestly see NOTHING wrong with what he said. Don't hate on me for saying this, but based on the words spoken, how can you argue with it? THE ODDS ARE means that "more often than not" this is true. By listing 10 bodybuilders and figure athletes that are exceptional trainers, doesn't mean he has slammed them. For every 10 good ones, there is AT LEAST 100 bad ones. Do you know how many bodybuilders I see train figure / bikini girls and turn them into dudes? Do you know how many bodybuilders out there don't know how to even get themselves into shape? How many people who competed in just 1 show are now so called 'trainers'. EVERYONE is a trainer nowadays. I don't know Dean, nor do I know if he is a good trainer or not - but what I do know is that there is at least some truth to what he says.

That said, I TOTALLY get where you're coming from. It's easy to take offence when you are part of the good ones.. But I think you have to step back and realize this is just marketting, and there is truth to it. Perhaps it was just written in not the best way - who knows. Personally I wouldn't take offence to it though. Just me though.

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Please!!!! You have him listed on the "secondary" list (JEREMY MISKINIS)...thus the jab at him...but he is trying his best to improve

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What's your problem? How the hell was I to know that that is his forum handle? What the hell are you referring to... "jab"? There was no jab, or anything negative intended.

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i honestly see nothing wrong with what he said. Don't hate on me for saying this, but based on the words spoken, how can you argue with it? The odds are means that "more often than not" this is true. By listing 10 bodybuilders and figure athletes that are exceptional trainers, doesn't mean he has slammed them. For every 10 good ones, there is at least 100 bad ones. Do you know how many bodybuilders i see train figure / bikini girls and turn them into dudes? Do you know how many bodybuilders out there don't know how to even get themselves into shape? How many people who competed in just 1 show are now so called 'trainers'. Everyone is a trainer nowadays. I don't know dean, nor do i know if he is a good trainer or not - but what i do know is that there is at least some truth to what he says.

That said, i totally get where you're coming from. It's easy to take offence when you are part of the good ones.. But i think you have to step back and realize this is just marketting, and there is truth to it. Perhaps it was just written in not the best way - who knows. Personally i wouldn't take offence to it though. Just me though.

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exactly

Steve - I see what your saying , but there is also nothing wrong with a rebutal to his comments either.....Listen if your going to throw a bold statement like that out there , be ready for comments ( Which im sure he well baited the hook before throwing out the line).
Dawn , proof is in the pudding so to speak , I was at the fall show and pretty sure team FB spoke volumes with their haul !

Dawn...read it again...slowly...I made the jab at him...not you...there you go "assuming"....slow down, take a breath or go to the gym and work off some energy...

Nope, nothing wrong at all! I quickly read the facebook back and forths, and honestly, his responses all made sense to me. Dawn seems to have tuns of success as a trainer, and so does many of the individuals listed. But who are we kidding. Being a bodybuilder or a figure athlete doesn't make one a good trainer. The reason Dawn and / or the others are good isn't based solely on experience as a bodybuiler. It takes more than doing a few shows to become good at telling someone else how to become successful.

Many bodybuilders have the tools needed to train another bodybuilder. sure. But what seperates good trainers from bad is the ability to relate to the athletes. Keep them motivated, understand when their clients are 'holding back' information, keeping them on track, putting the time, and so on. Being a bodybuilder CERTAINLY gives an advantage in many of those aspects. But doesn't imply anything beyond that. Some of the BEST bodybuilders on the planet are in fact the worst trainers on the planet. Some of the best bodybuilders on the planet don't even know themselves why they are successful - they follow a plan given to them and pray it works. Genetics taking care of the rest.

I THINK this is all that he meant in that 1 sentence. Again, don't know him. Don't know Dawn, perhaps more to the story then I can see in this post. Perhaps more friction between a few people then what an outsider can see looking in on this. But all I am saying is that a bodybuilder isn't necessarily a good trainer. But to generalize and say a bodybuilder is a BAD trainer is not really what I see being said here.

Dean's doing men's physique at the BC's eh?

bold statement, he will win and thank ripped freak for his accomplishment. Then of course his own training protocols.

Dean's a good guy, but he hasn't really done anything in the sport. He has run a very successful supplement store, married a super good looking wife, and landed a supplement contract with one of the top new exciting companies (pharmafreak) I see both sides of what he has said,
But to make a statement like he has done, really is a slap in the face of other trainers. He makes them sound like they are all a 1 pony race. Which is so far from the truth.

Jeff Messinger is a great trainer from the island and he is anything but old school. Does he incorporate some of those concepts, well of course, but he also does stuff with his clients that you don't always see with other trainers. And the results he has got for his clients is nothing short of amazing.

In the end, Too each their own is a easy way to say things. if you let what he says bother you then he wins, when you should take what he says and use it as fuel to better your clients and make him eat his words.

catch 22.

If I learned nothing else from my parents , I learned this. "Stand up for what you believe and also to stannd up for others" when a. Promotor for bcabba puts down the people who creates the large majority of the great competitors in this province that's not cool in my eyes, and in the eyes of many other trainers I have listed... God gave me a voice And I use it I don't need to gossip about him I will clearly openly say what I believe.

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I honestly see NOTHING wrong with what he said. Don't hate on me for saying this, but based on the words spoken, how can you argue with it? THE ODDS ARE means that "more often than not" this is true. By listing 10 bodybuilders and figure athletes that are exceptional trainers, doesn't mean he has slammed them. For every 10 good ones, there is AT LEAST 100 bad ones. Do you know how many bodybuilders I see train figure / bikini girls and turn them into dudes? Do you know how many bodybuilders out there don't know how to even get themselves into shape? How many people who competed in just 1 show are now so called 'trainers'. EVERYONE is a trainer nowadays. I don't know Dean, nor do I know if he is a good trainer or not - but what I do know is that there is at least some truth to what he says.

That said, I TOTALLY get where you're coming from. It's easy to take offence when you are part of the good ones.. But I think you have to step back and realize this is just marketting, and there is truth to it. Perhaps it was just written in not the best way - who knows. Personally I wouldn't take offence to it though. Just me though.

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Its a generalization Steve...which is inherently incorrect. He may mean well but it comes across disrespectful to those who are very good and successful at what they do.

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I predict Dean wins the men's Physique lol.

I could be wrong here but learning proper spelling and grammar might provide more weight to your message.

Just saying...

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Dean Brandt slams most if not all Trainers who are BODYBUILDERS & FIGURE ATHLETES….

“BodyByBrandt Contest Prep: we specialize in the most popular categories: Bikini + Physique! If your training with a bodybuilder,or Figure athlete odds are your following the wrong style of training + diet. We also offer Vegan or vegitarian meal plans, all plans are custom made for each person based on their body type, goals and lifestyle. **You do not have to take any banned supplements to compete in bikini or mens physique*** if your trainer is pushing this on you , then find another trainer!!! I have experience training natural athletes for shows and non-natural, and this is a completely different process. Look for experience and proven results!”

Some of my replies:
Dawn Alison seriously are you ****ing kiddin me dean really???
Dawn Alison how to lose friends and alienate people !!!!!!!
Dawn Alison ummmnn i'm a bodybulder and my team kicked butt in kelowna a drug tested show... how the hell can you say such slaunderous nonsense reallly to stoop to this level to get clients really shows what type of person you are

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Nate,how many hardcore bb's are vegetarians?

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Nate,how many hardcore bb's are vegetarians?

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Lol, Prae would have to change his name to Veggytorian.

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Nate,how many hardcore bb's are vegetarians?

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I have no idea but I'm not sure it matters. What I DO know though is when you are engaged in dialog with others and trying to convey a point of view it helps if your message isn't being distorted by errors. The written word can be powerful and used to change minds when it's being used correctly.

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Lol, Prae would have to change his name to Veggytorian.

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Vegan and vegetarian diets lack saturated fat and generally EPA and DHA...because the conversion process of ALA to EPA and subsequently DHA from plant sources is not metabolically efficient. This leads to a host of health issues.
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I have no idea but I'm not sure it matters. What I DO know though is when you are engaged in dialog with others and trying to convey a point of view it helps if your message isn't being distorted by errors. The written word can be powerful and used to change minds when it's being used correctly.

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She's pissin' mad Nate,give her a break.

more to add to the list of trainers & prep coaches in BC

Rob Churchill - IFBB Pro Bodybuilder
Chris Parker -National Level Bodybuilder
Jennifer Jewel - National level figure
Aaron jewell - National level bb
Maria Morrone - IFBB Pro Bodybuilder
Brian Nivens - bodybuilder
Karen Pang - national level bikini / figure
Pat & Dolly Skailes- Canadian IFBB Pro
Lauralee Sweeney - National level bb


oh and by the way
alot of the judging panel are on the lists

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I could be wrong here but learning proper spelling and grammar might provide more weight to your message.

Just saying...

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i'm gonna take it you are taking about Dean

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Vegan and vegetarian diets lack saturated fat and generally EPA and DHA...because the conversion process of ALA to EPA and subsequently DHA from plant sources is not metabolically efficient. This leads to a host of health issues.
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Yeah, makes you wonder why they think it such a "healthy" alternative.