Hey
just wondering your guys thoughts.....I just got married, so my wife wants to have kids asap....im currently on test/tren eth ......can i make babys now or am i infertile untill i start my PCT.....
any thoughts would be great
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Hey
just wondering your guys thoughts.....I just got married, so my wife wants to have kids asap....im currently on test/tren eth ......can i make babys now or am i infertile untill i start my PCT.....
any thoughts would be great
you got some swimmers but there are reasons that steroids have been researched as an alternative form of birth control; you have limited amounts of swimmers.
My endo told me to do not use high amount of androgens when attempting to have a baby. Especially tren, it can cause birth defects, even if you're on hcg. For the sake of your baby, try to be off cycle. Of course there's lots of peoples who conceived while on cycle, but I bet you don't want to take any chances.
MANY guys habve knocked up women while on gear. AAS is NOT a form of birth control.
just like I know women who got pregnant on birth control pills. It can happen! You can get your gf/wife pregnant if your sperm count is low. But chances are not very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by natenator
I heard somewhere that when you use very high amount of androgens(3g+), you start to reproduce test, so sperm. I asked this question to my endo and he had no idea. Anabolic doc on MD too. I asked him awhile ago.
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Originally Posted by moh2010
And I guarantee you others would still have a relatively normal sperm count on AAS. It's hit or miss. Just like some people's nuts shrink if they get near any form of androgen. While others don't even know what it's like to have small nuts. It's very individual, and there is no guarantee. I'd like to know the stats on this type of thing though! I would think that birth control pills for women is alot more effective than 'being on' for guys.
Testosterone plus progesterone has been researched though...
link...http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3543478/.../#.Tnyfb-zpfD4
Huh....I figured, you'd be guaranteed to have a boy with super strength! ;)
Give it a shot (pun intended) amd let us know how it goes. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Delt King
As for that about the defects....AAS dont change your DNA so there is no chance for the male to make and defects, with that said if the woman is on AAS its a different story...Quote:
My endo told me to do not use high amount of androgens when attempting to have a baby. Especially tren, it can cause birth defects, even if you're on hcg. For the sake of your baby, try to be off cycle. Of course there's lots of peoples who conceived while on cycle, but I bet you don't want to take any chances
why don't you focus your priorities and get off AAS or put off the muscle gains for a while
Can AAS cause sperm morphology defect?
I think JacktheThriller is on the money, you have to decide what your priority is... Having kids is a couples decision.
Complete bullcrap they will NOT cause birth defects! And yes you can get your wife/gf pregnant while on aas...high doses of test can make it even easier for some...it is NOT a reliable form of birth control!Quote:
Originally Posted by moh2010
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I know a handful of guys who got their ladies pregnant while on cycle and have normal healthy kids.
I was on cycle both times, also was taking HCG BOTH times...correlation there.
i cum in my girl twice a day since 2 years nothing so far
will need go pct n nattie 6 months it seem
3 months of that did not work out
Mon chum a été sur clomid+hcg pour 4 mois et rien. Sperm count tjrs très bas. Son endo lui a mis sur le HMG et boom sperm count normal/élevéQuote:
Originally Posted by blp
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My buddy tried clomid+hcg for 4 months and his sperm count was still very low. So his endo switched to HMG and 2 weeks after, sperm count was very good. Magic stuff.
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Originally Posted by moh2010
yah repronex not cheap anw got to national 2012 first, then go nattie a freaking long time n try repronex,
th clomid , proviron give me awful headache , hcg i got to go low or gyno symptom'
i thought if you're on gear the baby comes out ready to bench 2 plates? ;)
if you're serious about having a kid, lay off the gear for a bit
i got my wife preggers while on test susp/ tren a/ anadrol......this is our third and she's healthy as can be....and quite strong!
I have a weird question...Quote:
Originally Posted by tex
Is tren make your sperm much thicker, almost like spider web? lol
I had this problem every time I use tren ace (75-100mg eod). I was using hcg while on it(250iu 2xweek).
I think everyone I know ( in person ) who has been on AAS has had one or two baby girls ... So I tell my wife if she wants a girl I'm going to have to go on something :)
clomid does that to mine.
ya...i noticed that on tren....super thick wad.....
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Originally Posted by vanskelig
Thx guys. I dont know why it does that.Quote:
Originally Posted by tex
From my researches, most of the bodybuilders/steroids users have baby girls, not boy. Apparently, the y-chromosomes are the ones that kill off first when cycling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Talo
I asked this question to a few fertility doctors, including anabolic doc on MD. They had no idea.
dude...19 months ago....1G Test, 800 mg EQ, 600mg Tren....close to the end of a cycle........i got a boy....strong little guy, can climb anything!!
Care to provide some scientific research?Quote:
Originally Posted by moh2010
Nate, there's no documented research on this subject. That's why all the doctors I asked had no clue. But after searching the web about AAS and pregnacy, you'll find that most bodybuilders/AAS users have usually girls, not boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by natenator
What knd of cycling are you referring to? Just testosterone? If so, then is there data to suppport that administration of testosterone causes y chromosomes to die off? Testosterone administration has been researched plenty.Quote:
Originally Posted by moh2010
What about tren and deca? Numerous research exists on these drugs. Now whether or not chromosomes death was seen or even looked foris adifferent story but if you are going to state fact then im curious about the research which supports this.
i think it not "on" who's matters but time your "on"
if on non stop several years , less chance i guess , and the age another factor... older you are less you got chance
a less then 30 yo' who do a cycle a year will have kids no matters what
a guy at 37 near culter age , who's been on for 2 years, i really doubt it' will happen on a cycle
Agreed, my recent one just turned one and I am 11 days into my “come back” cycle! lol Seriously though, focus on the pregnancy. My wife insisted that it was a bad idea for both of us to have hormonal issues at the same time of the pregnancy. Good luck. WMQuote:
Originally Posted by JacktheThriller
She is knocked up now lol
Congrats. So, were you on or PCT when the big smush happened?
started pct oct 1 2011 for 5 weeks, nova and clomid
And thanks............
About time :)
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Originally Posted by neufie96
just knocked up my old lady been juicing for years bro infact im on cycle right meow 1200mg test, 800mg deca, 150mg anadrol
I went off for 10 months last year, lost a lot of weight, only to find out I pretty much have always had a low sperm count. So back on I went. If its gonna happen its gonna be by IVF and really it the sperm count doesn't matter, they pick out the healthiest looking sperm in that case.
you might have a low sperm count, you might not. Regardless you can overcome that by talking to your doctor about HMG (human menopausal gonadotropin) or FSH (follicle stimulating hormone). HMG will stimulate you leidig (responsible for test production) and sertoli cells (responsible for sperm production), and FSH will stimulate your sertoli cells only (all you need really). Go with what's cheaper if not covered. HCG (human chorionic gonadotropin) is a LH mimicker so it reallly only stimulates your leidig cells (maybe mildly stimulating sertoli, but not much). Just google those compounds and you'll find what you need. Talk to your doc, you'll be good to go. Now if your boys can't swim well, there's not anything for that as far as I know and you're out of luck. Try not having sex everyday though, E3D allows for a larger load and more sperm to shoot at once increasing your odds (or so I've heard). Not having sex frequently enough is bad too though, as you will have lots of old sperm, lol. Point is, its just like dating, don't try too hard. Who are the people who always get pregnant? People not trying to get pregnant. Hence our ****ed up society. that's another rant though.
HMG and HCG both contain FSH and LH but in differing quantities. HCG contains more LH than FSH(better at improving endo test) and HMG contains more FSH than LH(better at improving sperm count).
LH stimulates testosterone and FSH stimulates sperm cell production. Again the combination of the two appears to be more effective if you are looking to recover and possibly impregnate your better half.
''Testosterone stimulates the sertoli cells in the testicles to produce sperm. In order for testosterone to accomplish this task, it needs to present at relatively high concentrations (i.e., it needs to ''bathe'' the sertoli cells in testosterone). Whenever you inject an exogenous source of testosterone, the leydig cells in your testicals stop producing endogenous testosterone. When this occurs, this locally produced source of testosterone is no longer available to stimulate the sertoli. Say for instance, you inject 250 milligrams of testosterone enanthate per week. By the time this 250 milligrams gets into the bloodstream, it's been watered so significantly that the relative amount passing through the testicals winds up being negligible. However, as levels of exogenous testosterone injections rise to very high levels (over 1,000 milligrams per week), the relative amount passing through the testicals now increase to ample levels to cause spermatogenesis to occure once againg. When this happens, lo and behold, your fertile andbefore you know it you're girlfriend's pregnant. This could explain pregnancies while on."
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