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check out the link below:
lgsciences.com/Anabolic-Supplement-p/natadrol.htm
*note* unfortunately this is not available to be shipped out side of the usa.
so only our neighbors that happen to be on this site can go for this one.
but the natadrol is stocked up on alot of other shops now and getting it should not be a hassle for canadians.
but for this sale sadly only in usa for now.
I plan on getting my hands on some to do a 6 week cycle after my t-911 and formestane run. I start t-911 on Monday, I hope this stuff works!
Hello there. This is my first post.
Is Natadrol banned in Canada because the name sounds like that of an Anabolic (the ending DROL is included in AAS names such as Anadrol)?
It doesn't include its ingredients. It says that its non-steroidal. Does that make it only useful for a PCT?
Natadrol actually is said to require a light pct. So no don`t use it for pct...Quote:
Originally Posted by jshort
What's in it though?
it IS legal in canada.Quote:
Originally Posted by jshort
the name dont mean anything I can call say ummm. a brand of vitaminC pills DEEANOBAL and that dont make it a steroid or pro-H.
no i would NOT use it for pct.
it is an ANDROGEN mimicking compound.
if you do a 5 min google search you will have the answers to the rest of your q's
I know I can google it (I did), but being an LG rep, I wanted you to give me the ingredient profile and then explain it to me (yes yes, how boring lol).
I like reviewing ingredient profiles for LG products, as they're often innovative and creative (even though I never use them).
120 CapsulesQuote:
Originally Posted by jshort
Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings Per Container: 120
Amount Per Serving Amt %DV
Natadrol Complex 550mg
Androgenic Fraction
Tinospora Cordifolia (Highly Specialized Ethanolic Extract) **
Anabolic Factor
Cissus Quadrangularis (Highly Standardized) **
pSARM CoFactors
Hibiscus Rosa-Sinensis (Highly Standardized) **
Curculigo Orchioides (Highly Standardized) **
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Natadrol is a potent muscle-building androgen found naturally occurring in our environment. Natadrol WILL require an over-the-counter PCT; either Formadrol Extreme or T-911 is recommended. Naturally, androgenic side effects are possible, however, recent testers have only reported very mild sides. Excitingly, Natadrol should NOT make you test positive for steroids, nor is it a steroidal androgen, thus making it difficult for government bodies to pull it from the shelves without excessive legislative reform.
Natadrol Benefits:
* May Increase Strength
* May Increased Stamina
* May Enhance Fat Loss
* Positive Aggression In the Gym
* Reduced Water Retention
If you're looking for a highly effective alternative to those soon-to-be illegal hormonal products, then this is it! Add the size you want, the strength you need, and the sexual performance you desire with Natadrol!
Natadrol consists of four very carefully and wisely extracted ingredients, two of which are completely new to the bodybuilding community, and yield incredible results.
Creating Natadrol wasn't easy. For each ingredient there is a very precise and meticulous process that must be carried out. These ingredients are not easily found in bulk, and even if the extract was found, chances are it isn’ít what we have here.
When it comes to ingredient extraction, there are two rules to live by:
1. Not all extracts are the same - some are alcohol based, some are water based, and there is a precise reason for both. Alcohol picks up totally different fractions of the plant than water, so finding a study that shows activity of the alcohol doesn't mean you can run out and buy any extract on the shelf. Additionally, something that is potent using the water based extract isn't going to be as beneficial as an alcohol based extract or even the raw herb itself.
2. Every plant will have both estrogenic (which we don't want) and androgenic (which we do want) constituents, so it takes a trained eye to pick only the extracts that avoid estrogenic effects and highlight anabolic/androgenic effects.
With that being said, we MUST use the precise extraction method found in literature that has been shown effective at reducing estrogen and improving the anabolic/andorgenic ratio, so it is imperative that these ingredients have been extracted properly before theyíre used.
The Androgenic aspect of Natadrol:
Tinospora Cordifolia - Ethanolic Extract: This is the ONLY and I repeat ONLY herbal product to FULLY stimulate the androgen receptor, and it is shown in the scientific literature to be about as potent as Hydroxy-Testosterone (hydroxytestosterone is the active version of Formestane). If you use the water extract of this product like I am sure our competitors will, you are going to have very bad effects, so make sure you take the extra time and buy ONLY the ethanolic extract of this product! What is so remarkable about this compound is that not only did it ACT like an androgen in key tissues,tissues; its androgenic effects were blocked, similar to DHT by the anti-androgen flutamide, meaning its activity on the androgen receptor is CONFIRMED.
The Anabolic aspect of Natadrol:
Curculigo Orchioides - Water Based Extract: This new extract is similar to Hibiscus in that the water based extract is a potent sexual stimulant and anabolic. Sadly, the ethanolic extract may be truly androgenic, but it can also pick up the estrogenic components, causing more harm than good in terms of side effects, so we need to avoid it. Still, the water based extract was shown in the literature to have potent sexual and anabolic effects.
Cissus Quadrangularis - Standardized for Ketosterones: We were not first to bring this ingredient to market, but it has proven itself to be a solid anabolic without any androgenic effects. The ketosterones appear to rebuild muscle and connective tissue, which is important when weight and strength are drastically increased over a short period of time.
pSARMs found in Natadrol:
Hibiscus Rosa-Sinesis - Water Based Extract: Shown in the literature as a potent pSARM (phyto selective androgen response modifier), this again is only valid with the proper WATER based extraction method since the ethanol extract in this case may pick up some things we don't want. This water basedwater-based plant is an anabolic pSARM that shows an increase in body weight in testers. The ethanolic extract is both estrogenic and androgenic, which makes it undesirable until someone can figure out how to separate the fractions, but until then we can enjoy its pSARM properties whichproperties that are quite significant themselves.
So, how does it feel to be on Natadrol?
One tester who has a very extensive history with prohormones ranked both the weight and strength gains on par with 1-AD, with slightly less side effects and slightly higher positive aggression, libido, and strength, that only took second to Superdrol.
With Natadrol you may get the full anabolic/androgenic spectrum with extremely impressive results that lead to gains in lean body mass, a heightened level of self-esteem, and an aggressively charged libido.
PCT and Natadrol
Even though it is natural, it is POTENT, so you are going to want to run PCT with this product. Over the counter PCT is fine. Examples of this would be our Formadrol Extreme or T-911, but you could also use Indole-3-Carbinol (I3C) or Resveratrol.
Steroidal PCT: 6-OXO, 6-Bromo, ATD, Formestane
Non-steroidal PCT: Indole-3-Carbinol (I3C), Resveratrol
If you're looking for a highly effective alternative to those soon-to-be illegal hormonal products, then this is it! Add the size you want, the strength you need, and the sexual performance you desire with Natadrol!
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Hope this helps you. :-D
although I will likely give this supp a try in the future, I just find it weird where it lists the positive sides like, may increase strength, may increase stamina... Then it`s stated that the strength gains and weight gains were on par with 1Ad... That`s kinda pushing it. If it were that close to 1AD, this stuff would be off the shelves before they have time to take them out of the boxes.
This is obviously not directed towards you JP, but how the product is advertised.
Thanks JP. Now I can take the pleasure to analyze it and ask questions.
I don't necessarily expect you to be able to answer any of the following per say, but these were some questions and observations that popped into my head as I was reviewing the ingredient profile;
1) Regarding the ingredient "Tinospora Cordifolia - Ethanolic Extract", LG says the following
"Acts like an androgen in key tissues"?
Based on the description LG has given, I'm assuming that they have based they're results on this study: http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=21498249
However in the above study the scientists involved concluded that it was successful in affecting androgen receptors in the prostate only (which is not good btw). Hence how do you know that its effective in tissues such as muscle and bone?
2) I couldn't find any literature for Curculigo Orchiodes. LG refers to the study "Effect of Curculigo orchioides rhizomes on sexual behaviour of male rats." Fitoterapia. 78.7-8 (2007)", which I was unable to obtain.
I saw elsewhere that someone claimed that scientists concluded (perhaps the ones from the above study) that this ingredient caused the reproductive organs to grow and act like testosterone. Is this what LG is basing the statement "Still, the water based extract was shown in the literature to have potent sexual and anabolic effects"?
3) Regarding Ketosterones, the only potential positive thing about this ingredient is that its a sterol which are known to lower cholesterol. If there is a study which demonstrates any of its anabolic effects, I'd be happy to see it.
4) Regarding the word "pSARM'', did LG science invent this term?
The evidence for the ingredient Hibiscus Rosa-Sinesis seems to be based on this study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17688164.
The results showed that rats who consumed this ingredient for 8 weeks, put on weight in their various organs, however I didn't read of anything regarding muscle mass.
no worries i know its not. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ritch
did you know superdrol (wich it just mythlyated masteron) is still legal? (atleast in US right now)
only rees it was pulled was due topressure from FDA, but if you look in the books its tachnicly still legal.
(wich BLOWS MY MIND)
my point is it would take time to get banned and they would have to find a reez to do so.
natadrol being plant based and extracted... well not sure what there excuse is gonna be. ban the whoel plant with no data on bad side effects?
id tell them how about thos f-king cans lined with cancer causeing plastics that somhow are still on shelves while alot of other countrys have already banned that plastic in food based uses.
damin FDA piss me the f off.
dam i got methyl-mast "aka superdrol/beastdrol" on route now acually lol
I am likeing the natadrol BUT i must say that beastdrol/methyl-mast, is stronger BUT it also has ALOT more sides.
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Originally Posted by jshort
if you do your own research on each of the ingredients in natadrol you can see it would help muscle growth . im a busy person i don't mind helping others out but "and no offence" spoonfeeding info that could EASLY be searched I will not do, but your questions seem fishy considering it takes me seconds to look up each thing you asked about on somthing as basic as google for eg.
I havent answerd all your questions fully as 5 min of reading would fullfill that.
sorry if i come across as an a-hole but its like asking "can i drink my winny" do a 1 min search you will know.
you work for another supp company right?
If i must ill put up all i need look into what comp your with, but i really dont want to.
Iv wasted enuff time already.
not sure what your up to but an ... anyway have a good day.
For what its worth, most supplement products aren't very well verified by scientific research. If customers for Natadrol claim that it works, than I suppose thats all that matters.
I don't work for another supplement company, but I do enjoy debating with those who have a thick enough skin (ie don't take personal offenses). If you think you have the time and can respond to my criticisms in an objective manner, than I'd be more than happy to comment on your rebuttal to my review. On the other hand, I know LG science sponsors this forum so it can advertise its products in a positive light. Hence no offense taken should you choose otherwise.