Anavar PCT and during?

Currently 170lbs. 5'8
15%-20% Body fat- Guessing (never had an accurate measurement)
25 years old, in the gym for nearly 2 years solid.
Diet is about 80% clean, better than most but could use a little tweaking not gonna lie.

Thinking of doing a Var cycle as I am not looking to get huge, just a little more solid while bringing that body fat percentage down.

I started quite light 2 years ago (140lbs) and have been basically bulking over the past 2 years. Now I have that bulky, skinny/fat look going on which is quite disappointing to see in the mirror after 2 years of work. Yes I am bigger which was the overall goal, now I want to get that structured defined look as I am happy with the overall size.
I am a hardgainer that struggled to get this much weight and has made my wallet quite light with all the food and supplements while still being quite unhappy with my body.
Time to get cut! :bch



40mg ED/8 weeks
Supplement with Shotgun V3 (nos/creatine) Read creatine stacks well with var.
Fish oils
Animal pak multi
Greens (supplement with protein, might as well have extra veggies too)
Optimum pro complex protein.

Now I was thinking of adding in Trib or something similar to keep the little guy happy while on cycle. Any thoughts on this?

I have been reading different opinions on the PCT. nolva or clomid, some say nothing, some just say use OTC stuff. Can I please get some PTC advice?

Any opinions or help is appreciated. Please don't tell me to take something else or to start taking test like everyone does. I did my research and for my goals it sounds like anavar is my best choice. Just looking for some advice on the cycle itself and the PCT..etc. As well the side effects and ways to prepare myself to avoid them as much as possible (things like tribulus..etc).

Thanks

Forgot to add my training consists of a Push/Pull routine 4 days a week. Mostly compound, heavy/low rep workout. 15 mins cardio at the end of every session.

Planning to add in a 5th day of just cardio to help with the cut while increasing the cardio on all of the other days.

that was my exact same first cycle dude. i had zero libido issues at all with var, and i didnt need to take any trib or anything. i didnt even do a pct, which was dumb, but i didnt get any sides. thats a fairly mild cycle and you shouldnt need much more than some clomid/nolva for a couple weeks after perhaps although im no pct expert.

my advice would be to go 400mg a week of test to stack with that var and your gains will be 10x better, especially for fat loss.

good luck.

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Originally Posted by #8

that was my exact same first cycle dude. i had zero libido issues at all with var, and i didnt need to take any trib or anything. i didnt even do a pct, which was dumb, but i didnt get any sides. thats a fairly mild cycle and you shouldnt need much more than some clomid/nolva for a couple weeks after perhaps although im no pct expert.

my advice would be to go 400mg a week of test to stack with that var and your gains will be 10x better, especially for fat loss.

good luck.

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What type of results did you have running just the var?

I don't want to run test on my first cycle, especially since I am not really trying to gain size anymore. Also, I am looking for more permanent steady gains, which I read that anavar produces. Not sure how test holds up over time without having to cycle over and over...

Anyone have an opinion on which one to run PCT.. Nolva or Clomid?

I would just stick with the nolva...i honestly dont think there would be no need for clomid :)

Var made me look very good. Rock hard actually. Weight gain on the other hand was okay but nothing great. It'll help you maintain your mass while you cut. 8 weeks on orals is a long time though, plus 40mg is a very low dose for var. I did between 70 and 100mg/d. It's also very expensive. I know you don't want to hear it, but you should try test only :p

Just my opinion/experience though

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Originally Posted by Seth

Var made me look very good. Rock hard actually. Weight gain on the other hand was okay but nothing great. It'll help you maintain your mass while you cut. 8 weeks on orals is a long time though, plus 40mg is a very low dose for var. I did between 70 and 100mg/d. It's also very expensive. I know you don't want to hear it, but you should try test only :p

Just my opinion/experience though

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Did the "rock hard" body last? Everywhere I read it says how anavar is pretty much all permanent gains. Just wondering how your body kept when off for an extended time.

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Originally Posted by NeverDieEasy

Whats your diet exactly? (wondering because you say you're a "hardgainer")

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My diet consists of whole grains, high protein, high calories (healthy calories).
Was taking a gainer shake every morning. Casein protein before bed every night. Other than that I would be eating 6 meals a day sticking to high protein in every meal and whole grains like quinoa or whole wheat pastas. I tried to get in as much fruit as I could daily as well, on top of the fruit and veggies I supplement with Veggie greens as getting in the veggies is a weakness for me. Also had fish oils in there.

I would try to get around the 3500 calorie mark daily.
200 Grams protein minimum.
12 bottles water daily

I stayed away from junk food altogether like fast food, snacks..etc. I am not a sweets guy either so those were easy to keep out of my diet.

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Originally Posted by logan666

Did the "rock hard" body last? Everywhere I read it says how anavar is pretty much all permanent gains. Just wondering how your body kept when off for an extended time.

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The gains pretty much stayed because there's almost no water gain with var. But the rock hard pumped all the time look doesn't last.