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I've seen Tony training at my local piece of shit Goodlife a few times and although I knew he was a big boy I had no idea he looked this big on stage. I am very impressed with his lower back. His lats tie in very low, like Franco Columbu's. That's purely genetics, and what a gift it is. Congrats to Tony, well done.
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Originally Posted by varking
he's still got 3-4 years of good training and muscle maturity before he is ready for an overall at our nationals. Shape is just about there. Legs are ripped, glutes, hams, but he still has problems getting extremely dry in the back - particularly delts from what I am seeing. I am having a similar problem right now, but I think a few more weeks and they will dry out. Thats the problem with having a stand out body part (in his case legs) in terms of leaness, you forget about the other parts that are equally important.
Don't get me wrong, a kid that looks like this under 25 has a great future - but you have to remember all the guys with years of dieting experience, and that muscle maturity that is just undeniable on the nationals stage. The top 5 heavies from last year for instance, antoine vaillant, ron partlow, and of course the up and comers that we've yet to even see at the nationals stage that are ready to pull a mike johnson (Overall winner last year).
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I don't know how much drier or mature from the back you can expect the kid to be. He would make a great 212 class pro. He's already got a reputable sponsor behind him... it would be good for Canada to bring some youth and life to the under 212 class. I remember seein stage shots of this kid from last year and its night and day. Guy makes improvements at an astounding rate. I wouldn't count him out of the pro card running. In fact I'd say he deserves one.
id like to see him 192-195 absolutely peeled!!
i agree his color was too dark/thick...appeared to smooth him out... more sheen needed possibly as well... definitely cant sneeze at top 5 internationally
cant wait for the nationals
You'll see how much drier or maturity one can have at nationals. The kid is just young. You don't 'deserve' to be a pro because you have a sponsor. My point about drier or maturity is his delts and back, not the back of his legs or glutes. He's smooth in somre areas by todays pro standards THAT IS ALL I AM SAYING. Just look at some of the past champs who are pro now at his bodyweight... Pat Bernard, Rob Belisle, Vince Warwyck, Martin Allard... These guys are the definition of muscle density and maturity. Tony is on his way to being that. But to say he deserves it just because he is young and the 212 division needs 'life' is a little silly! If Canada had a dedicated under 212 overall champion pro card given out each year then YES, tony might be one to watch for... Although there are a few guys to challenge him...Larry Vinette, Greg Doucette, Zane Watson, Mike Lynds.... All guys who are under 212 who IMO would still be in line for a victory (as Tony closes the gap)...Quote:
Originally Posted by Diurediculous
Martin allard and tony searle were head and shoulders above the rest at nationals. The Arnolds r the best in the world and he did more then hold his own many could make a arguement that he could of won class. With an exception to the poor colour at prejuding which was fixed for the night show the kid had amazing proportions size density and conditioning. He just comes in harder and drier every show. I can easily see him walking away with a class win this year and quite possibly and overall title with that kind of physique. I remember reading on this forum before nationals last year that the kid was going to get smoked get a huge eye opener came 2nd in canada same thing about the arnolds kid came 5th in the WORLD. Discredit his sucesses and blow up his failures but i think once again tony will be having alot of people take back some things they have said about him.
I know tony personally and he is the first one to dwell on his weak points and be worried about other competitors. I see him once a month or so and everytime he is complaining about the same body parts and killing himself to bring them up u dont come top 5 at the arnolds on hopes and dreams and a sponsorship! Also to the experience of dieting he has 9 shows to his credit by 22 and has dialed it in better and better each. the future is now and its tony searle coming in at nationals winning his pro card to take the ifbb 212 by storm for canada
Cool stuff. I hope your right... But honestly I don't really disagree with anything you say. The kid has potential - he may even be the one to take the elite showdown and get his pro card that way , this year even. I am not going to disagree with you on that either. Slow and steady wins the race in my mind, and honestly I think thats the approach he's taken so far which is a good thing. Too many young guys blow out early and I don't think that is the case with Tony. I think in 2-3 years he will be the new Pro in canada. Maybe sooner, who knows. I guess that depends how conditioned he can get. I know its hard as hell to get ripped. Mentally and physically! Perhaps a little time off can help too... If I were tony, I'd just plan to win in 2013.
I know Tony too, and he is good ambassador, always encouraging and positive towards others.. He's not self centred, which is refreshing..
Personally I think he's pretty jacked as is, no glaring weakness...just come in like an onion front and back, top and bottom.. I can't get a str8 answer out of him if he uses someone to dial in or not.. Lol. If I was that close I'd pay the money and say "get me there!" And trust:)