Contest Prep for 2010 Provincials

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04-07-2010, 06:13 PM
shredded_Tris

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Originally Posted by btufts

definately dont need one hour cardio this far out. if anything i'd be using the last 3 weeks or so just to try and add some more quality mass, start eating healthier foods, things that you could incorporate into your diet and then start tapering down with your calories, or however you plan to do it. you said you were carb cycling. in my experience, just taking out all refined sugar from my diet makes a big difference. but to each his own i guess lol

Hey B, there really aren't any refined sugars in my diet now aside from the jam, and maybe a bit in the toast but like I said thats only 3 days a week. maybe the jam isnt necessary however, I don't think it is possible to add any kind of real mass whatsoever in 3 weeks. I think I have everything I am going to be stepping on with from the off-season, from here its just unveiling it, but that is just my opinion I guess.
04-07-2010, 06:17 PM
shredded_Tris

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Originally Posted by steve_d

I'll have to agree with those saying not to go with extreme cardio. Not that an hour is extreme, or hard (particularly if diet is not hard yet)....But toast and jam doesn't even really have a place on an off-season diet, let alone pre contest. Its not bad as say chips and french fries, and big macs - but that isn't the point.

This far out you are better off just getting your body used to eating x number of times per day and cleaning out the foods that have no benefit to you at all. The cardio will come if you want striated glutes, don't worry...but don't need to be doing an hour this far out - even if you add calories to do so. Better off training harder and burning the calories that way.

Plus, you are going to be a lightweight...striated glutes shouldn't be the goal - think of this as a long term plan. Where will you go from there? How much muscle will you lose in order to get striated glutes? Just don't end up beating your body up for this show.

I'm trying to figure out exactly where you are going with this one Steve. You did great at your last show and I followed your blog and thought you looked awesome. But it sounds like from what your saying that you cannot hit your perfect peak for a show unless you plan on it being Nationals or a pro show. I hope this doesn't sound bad, I'm not trying to make it so, but are you saying you could have been better at Provincials but since you are going to compete again you didnt go all out. I know we should plan ahead but can you really do that much harm in peaking
04-07-2010, 06:58 PM
steve_d

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Originally Posted by shredded_Tris

I'm trying to figure out exactly where you are going with this one Steve. You did great at your last show and I followed your blog and thought you looked awesome. But it sounds like from what your saying that you cannot hit your perfect peak for a show unless you plan on it being Nationals or a pro show. I hope this doesn't sound bad, I'm not trying to make it so, but are you saying you could have been better at Provincials but since you are going to compete again you didnt go all out. I know we should plan ahead but can you really do that much harm in peaking

No no...I don't mean not to go for a perfect peak - But I think what I was more leaning on was that if striated glutes is the goal, then you may end up over dieting. I did this once - and it was not good for me (both in the way I looked for that show, and how it hurt my progression for future shows). But yeah, I was shredded (bot not necesaarily at what I would have said was my "best").

And sure, I could have been more ripped for sudbury or provincials...I was quite lean, almost as lean as I've ever been aside from the example above. 3 more weeks, and I could have been that lean, yet weighed in at 158 instead of 163 - and perhaps not any better. In my mind it would have hindered my progress.

This is just 1 opinion, but I would simply put a goal of looking better from show to show. No different if you on a provincial or national level stage. If you over-diet, it may take a few more months in the off-season to gain back what you lost, which is a few months you could have been gaining even more. Which is the big reason why I don't recommend people competing more than 1 time in a year (unless its say a few weeks apart)...

PS: I am not sure how ripped you usually get. Perhaps striated glutes is easy for you, and in that case, basically don't worry about anything I said! Some guys legs and glutes are the first thing to get really ripped! I am just basing everything I said on comparing a mistake I made in the past of getting too ripped for what my body could allow at the time.
04-07-2010, 07:31 PM
shredded_Tris

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Originally Posted by steve_d

No no...I don't mean not to go for a perfect peak - But I think what I was more leaning on was that if striated glutes is the goal, then you may end up over dieting. I did this once - and it was not good for me (both in the way I looked for that show, and how it hurt my progression for future shows). But yeah, I was shredded (bot not necesaarily at what I would have said was my "best").

And sure, I could have been more ripped for sudbury or provincials...I was quite lean, almost as lean as I've ever been aside from the example above. 3 more weeks, and I could have been that lean, yet weighed in at 158 instead of 163 - and perhaps not any better. In my mind it would have hindered my progress.

This is just 1 opinion, but I would simply put a goal of looking better from show to show. No different if you on a provincial or national level stage. If you over-diet, it may take a few more months in the off-season to gain back what you lost, which is a few months you could have been gaining even more. Which is the big reason why I don't recommend people competing more than 1 time in a year (unless its say a few weeks apart)...

PS: I am not sure how ripped you usually get. Perhaps striated glutes is easy for you, and in that case, basically don't worry about anything I said! Some guys legs and glutes are the first thing to get really ripped! I am just basing everything I said on comparing a mistake I made in the past of getting too ripped for what my body could allow at the time.

Very well said Steve, I appreciate the advice. I have not had striated glutes yet and my legs and glutes are usually the last things to come in. The last time I competed was in April 2009 so I took a pretty good off-season for this one. I guess when I say I want striated Glutes I am more or less saying I just want everything to come in shredded. I wanna be better than last show which should be farely easy with this years gains. I have some stiff competition this year so I just wanna be the best I can be and know there was nothing else at all that I could have done
05-07-2010, 06:32 AM
steve_d

Sounds like you have all the motivation in the world, that's awesome (especially for those last couple of weeks of dieitng) - can you post up some pics from the last show? As long as you come in as lean, or leaner, you'll likely have improved. Even just from the experience of it (ie, posing, confidence, etc). How much did you weigh for last show?
05-07-2010, 08:26 AM
shredded_Tris

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Originally Posted by steve_d

Sounds like you have all the motivation in the world, that's awesome (especially for those last couple of weeks of dieitng) - can you post up some pics from the last show? As long as you come in as lean, or leaner, you'll likely have improved. Even just from the experience of it (ie, posing, confidence, etc). How much did you weigh for last show?

Thanks man, yeah you won't find anyone who loves the sport more than me. I am not much for trash talking or saying I have the best body but I do know I have the most motivation for this show hands down! I didn't really want to post much of me from the past because I wanna keep my progress and Identity on the DL for the big reveal but I have a few here. Be gentle haha like I said my condition may have lacked in the past and I had done multiple shows, this one being one of the last over a few weeks. I was a few pounds heavier and had a hard time dropping the rebound water. I weighed in at 154lbs for this show.

I have brought my legs up a lot since this and hopefully it will be enough.
Let me know what you think.
05-07-2010, 08:28 AM
shredded_Tris

It's funny looking at these pictures because they are from the same show but just two different Cameras lol.
The Camera and photographer make some kind of a big difference lol
05-07-2010, 09:38 AM
steve_d

most definitely a better camera will make a huge difference. Shutter speeds etc make all the difference in the world to capture all the cuts that you have on stage. Overall, I think you looked pretty good in those pics on stage. I don't think legs are your weakness at all.

It was actually at the atlantics that Garry Bartlett told me I needed to be sharper after coming 2nd to a guy I really thought I had beat. To my surprise the audience actually boo'd when I came second, which surprised me, because no one would have known who I was at that show - so it wasn't "friends and family". That was when I made my mind to be "sharper" for the world qualifier. I went from 141 on stage at atlantics (in similar condition to the pics you posted above) to a whopping 128 on stage 3 months later. Now you might have a better idea what I mean about it being a mistake for me to get that lean! I basically sacrificed 5 muscle to lose 5 fat.

I think getting leaner, and especially with a little more muscle since this last show, you'll likely do well in the lightweight division. But a freak could always show up!
05-07-2010, 10:42 AM
shredded_Tris

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Originally Posted by steve_d

most definitely a better camera will make a huge difference. Shutter speeds etc make all the difference in the world to capture all the cuts that you have on stage. Overall, I think you looked pretty good in those pics on stage. I don't think legs are your weakness at all.

It was actually at the atlantics that Garry Bartlett told me I needed to be sharper after coming 2nd to a guy I really thought I had beat. To my surprise the audience actually boo'd when I came second, which surprised me, because no one would have known who I was at that show - so it wasn't "friends and family". That was when I made my mind to be "sharper" for the world qualifier. I went from 141 on stage at atlantics (in similar condition to the pics you posted above) to a whopping 128 on stage 3 months later. Now you might have a better idea what I mean about it being a mistake for me to get that lean! I basically sacrificed 5 muscle to lose 5 fat.

I think getting leaner, and especially with a little more muscle since this last show, you'll likely do well in the lightweight division. But a freak could always show up!

Thanks man, I was hoping to turn some heads with my improvements, and I now see your point on the weight difference....WOW! thats intense dude. Your a pretty solid guy now I almost can't picture you are 128lbs. It's hard for me to know how much more weight I should have lost for that show but it's over now. The reason I know I need to be super shredded for this class is that there will be a freak stranding next to me lol I know this for a fact right now unless he decides to back down. In your opinion how much leaner could I have been from initial glance? I figured about 5-10lbs maybe but my weight wasn't moving much. Cardio could have been intensified more. Plus I did a Keto Diet and didn't respond as best as I had hoped.
I think I have pretty good proportions though, hopefully they are enough. These shows always seem to be the drier competitor that wins. size almost never plays the determining factor, I have been the bigger person time and time again and always lose to someone drier.
05-07-2010, 11:15 AM
MuSuLPhReAk

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Originally Posted by shredded_Tris

It's funny looking at these pictures because they are from the same show but just two different Cameras lol.
The Camera and photographer make some kind of a big difference lol

Definitely true. I follow some of the Canadian photographers work and some really know what they are doing. Usually when pics are taken quickly and posted, the lighting and color can be off and change the look of the competitor. If the photographer does color correction and some work on the pics, it can make a huge difference. Some are skilled enough to take perfect pics first time round without any touch ups but usually some type of touch up is needed.

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