Top 10 Deadlift mistakes by Dave Tate

dremen is gonna leave his colon on the floor when he tries to squat 500 with no warmup......vids please....

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Originally Posted by dremen

Im built for pulling more then pushing it seems.

Shit right now im down to 215lbs and i can still deadlift 5 plates per side for 5-6 reps COLD yet other guys with 30 pounds on me are still huffin and puffin with 3 plates a side....lol

For shrugs i warm up with 2 plates per side then go to 3 then 4. At 4 i kill myself for a few sets then drop it back down to 2 per side and get some really good form in there doing em slow. My bench is stuck at 3 plates per side and has been for a while now so that sucks.

My entire life i've done nothing but hard labour so i think my body is more suited to powerlifting then bodybuilding? I've never really though about powerlifting much, but it seems i like it in the gym....lol

I can go in the gym cold and deadlift 5 plates per side 4-5 reps and feel fine, like no problems at all. I've never pulled anything before really and it seems it takes a lot to break me thus saying maybe im better suited as a powerlifter?

In the gym i think i have the best form for deads out of all my lifts.

Deadlifts just feel natural to me like im programed to do em or something?

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You'd simply be lifting such a ton of weight/reps for your body weight that you should be SOO proud and simply post a vid. Nobody would laugh at you if you do this.. its just a good ( wel the cold part is dumb) test of strenght... and if you can do it... then post it!!
Seriously... there should be no reason why you dont post this vid if you can;t do it.. or???

I want to see a video as well....

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Originally Posted by tiramisu

when good threads go bad.

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Yup, no ****ing surprices there.

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Originally Posted by dremen

Im built for pulling more then pushing it seems.

Shit right now im down to 215lbs and i can still deadlift 5 plates per side for 5-6 reps COLD yet other guys with 30 pounds on me are still huffin and puffin with 3 plates a side....lol

For shrugs i warm up with 2 plates per side then go to 3 then 4. At 4 i kill myself for a few sets then drop it back down to 2 per side and get some really good form in there doing em slow. My bench is stuck at 3 plates per side and has been for a while now so that sucks.

My entire life i've done nothing but hard labour so i think my body is more suited to powerlifting then bodybuilding? I've never really though about powerlifting much, but it seems i like it in the gym....lol

I can go in the gym cold and deadlift 5 plates per side 4-5 reps and feel fine, like no problems at all. I've never pulled anything before really and it seems it takes a lot to break me thus saying maybe im better suited as a powerlifter?

In the gym i think i have the best form for deads out of all my lifts.

Deadlifts just feel natural to me like im programed to do em or something?

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Impressive but like the OP states, you should be going dead after every rep. There is a guy at my gym with a pretty thick build and he'll walk up and dead 5-6 plates without much of warmup, so I know you can do it. However there is something seriously up when you can lift more cold then warmed up. You should be doing a couple warm up reps and going for more weight if you're just throwing 500lbs around like its nothing. IMO, you lift 500lbs like most people lift 225, so I would expect 1rms in the 700+ range from you. Unless that is you're BSing, or you were talking about 25lb plates.

If you want credibility on this site, you either post vids are dont post bs numbers.

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Originally Posted by tex

dremen is gonna leave his colon on the floor when he tries to squat 500 with no warmup......vids please....

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Deadlift that is. :)

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Originally Posted by CanadianIron

Impressive but like the OP states, you should be going dead after every rep. There is a guy at my gym with a pretty thick build and he'll walk up and dead 5-6 plates without much of warmup, so I know you can do it. However there is something seriously up when you can lift more cold then warmed up. You should be doing a couple warm up reps and going for more weight if you're just throwing 500lbs around like its nothing. IMO, you lift 500lbs like most people lift 225, so I would expect 1rms in the 700+ range from you. Unless that is you're BSing, or you were talking about 25lb plates.

If you want credibility on this site, you either post vids are dont post bs numbers.

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700+?

Welcome to Fantasy Island.

here are pics of the guy who cold walks up to 500 and dead lifts 3 sets for 6, then drop sets to 405,315 and walks out of the gym (assumed)

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Originally Posted by O-Train

700+?

Welcome to Fantasy Island.

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Im not saying I believe he can, Im just saying, a guy who can walk up to 500lbs cold and do 3 sets of 6 reps should have a 1rm between 6-700lbs.

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Originally Posted by CanadianIron

Im not saying I believe he can, Im just saying, a guy who can walk up to 500lbs cold and do 3 sets of 6 reps should have a 1rm between 6-700lbs.

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I know what you mean. Although once you start getting up in weight adding 100lbs makes a big difference. It would depend a lot on how the person trains. I doubt he could pull 600.

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Originally Posted by O-Train

I know what you mean. Although once you start getting up in weight adding 100lbs makes a big difference. It would depend a lot on how the person trains. I doubt he could pull 600.

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I doubt he can pull 405 for 6

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Originally Posted by O-Train

I know what you mean. Although once you start getting up in weight adding 100lbs makes a big difference. It would depend a lot on how the person trains. I doubt he could pull 600.

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Right now im pulling 495 10 to 11 reps, 6-8 touch n go, then the last few i have to regrip and pause at the bottom, my max dead is 600 or slightly over right now.. once you start getting up to even 500, the extra 100 is a HUGE difference.. and no way in hell would i try and do 495 cold, even with the ability to do it 10 or more times

So............is there going to be a vid or no? WTF?

bump for vids of the master-puller at work ;)

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Originally Posted by tex

bump for vids of the master-puller at work ;)

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I love you

lmao....

He wont post one and who cares after listening to him talk I know he's full of it.

I hate e-staters, there are members you can just take their word for, and their are members you can't. Dremen is a cant now... I dont see the problem getting the video, everyone called me out and I posted a vid within 2-3 days, took like 15 seconds to do it.

bumping for vids has become a moot point but i still want to see the stone cold deadlifter at work ;)

funny how Dremen has suddenly disappeared from this thread :D

I dont even know why I care to post this, but dremen claims to pull close to 2.5x his body weight which is pretty damn good, but not spectacular, anyone that trains hard should easily be able to pull 2x body weight and if one is dedicated 2.5x is not that far out of reach, its 3x and up that is elusive, few people can claim to do this. I trained the dead lift hard for 10 months from the beginning of last year and maxed out at 405 for 5 and that is when I weighed 180 (p.s. Im fatter now) If you use the 1 rm calculator this translated to a hypothetical 2.5x bodyweight, but I burnt out hard, I deadlifted too much and started to degress, I dont think I was training my back enough, I did zercher squats and box squats to beat hell but I should have been doing more goodmornings And on top of that I wasnt training consistently for a number of months before due to work, I could have been just out of shape I dont know. If anyone wants to call me out on this be prepared to put your money where your mouth is.:moon

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Originally Posted by C-money

OMFG that is awesome ha ha ha ha

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That is the funniest thing I have seen in a long time!

Sure but everyone is built different.

I'm 240 lbs ( currently cutting and dropping ) and I struggle at 520-30lbs . Just having a hard time getting my numbers up. I've done 535 once.

I'm not on any close to what Dreman is taking , but still. If he's going to post some numbers then take a video.

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Originally Posted by Talo

Sure but everyone is built different.

I'm 240 lbs ( currently cutting and dropping ) and I struggle at 520-30lbs . Just having a hard time getting my numbers up. I've done 535 once.

I'm not on any close to what Dreman is taking , but still. If he's going to post some numbers then take a video.

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Of course Talo,
But you are not far off, once you lose a bit more weight it will become easyier as your leverage increases.

My deadlift is great but everything else sucks, I pulled 405 for 5 but at the same time I was benching 225 for 1 or 2 lol, something is wrong when you deadlift twice as much as you bench lol, as I have gotten heavier, my bench has gone up, but I haven pulled seriously for a long time so time will tell in that area.

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Originally Posted by buildinthaskinnys

Of course Talo,
But you are not far off, once you lose a bit more weight it will become easyier as your leverage increases.

My deadlift is great but everything else sucks, I pulled 405 for 5 but at the same time I was benching 225 for 1 or 2 lol, something is wrong when you deadlift twice as much as you bench lol, as I have gotten heavier, my bench has gone up, but I haven pulled seriously for a long time so time will tell in that area.

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good mornings from the bottom position. good mornings for a rep record. seated good mornings. good mornings with the cambered bar.....rotate them every week with box squats, front box squats, zercher squats, cambered bar box squats etc........hammer those every week and i bet you pull 3x bodyweight

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Originally Posted by tex

good mornings from the bottom position. good mornings for a rep record. seated good mornings. good mornings with the cambered bar.....rotate them every week with box squats, front box squats, zercher squats, cambered bar box squats etc........hammer those every week and i bet you pull 3x bodyweight

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These are things I want to be doing now, I never thought of cambered bar goodmornings though thanks, unfortunately my back has been all "brawled" up and this is leaving me feel very shitty, I loved training the deadlift, and I did well even though I wasnt training very intelligently, as I noted before I think I was deadlifting too much. last workout I did squats oly style and some leg presses and ham curls and felt fine, this last workout today, not so good, 5 minutes into the warmup I got a headache then before I even started my set my left side of my lower back pinched up, the trooper that I am, I performed a set and while I did set a pr for reps, could not countinue on with the rest of the workout ended up doing two sets of seated gm's in agony, slogged out a set of ham curls that I had to trade out for the multiple sets of gm's I was going to do but couldnt. fun times. Bench day is next, funny thing I traded bench day for squats and deads as my favorite day because of my back and now my bench is going up and up (yeah right).:bch

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Originally Posted by tex

good mornings from the bottom position. good mornings for a rep record. seated good mornings. good mornings with the cambered bar.....rotate them every week with box squats, front box squats, zercher squats, cambered bar box squats etc........hammer those every week and i bet you pull 3x bodyweight

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I'm going to be putting this to the test. Since my knee/tendon is messed up it's hard for me to dead proper with lockout and all. I've always heard from the Elite guys that you don't have to deadlift to increase your deadlift. GM's will now replace my ME dead days until I'm better.

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Originally Posted by buildinthaskinnys

Of course Talo,
But you are not far off, once you lose a bit more weight it will become easyier as your leverage increases.

My deadlift is great but everything else sucks, I pulled 405 for 5 but at the same time I was benching 225 for 1 or 2 lol, something is wrong when you deadlift twice as much as you bench lol, as I have gotten heavier, my bench has gone up, but I haven pulled seriously for a long time so time will tell in that area.

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This is what im talking about bro. Im by NO means a huge guy and my bench/squat suck weight wise, but i can pull up a lot of weight off the floor. Im really good at that one lift, JUST that one lift and people can't even let me have that and feel good about myself.

Im pulling more weight now @215lbs then when i was 235lbs AND im just on test/masteron compared to the cocktail i was on before, but then again @235lbs it was REALLY hard to breath after the 20 minute mark.

And if everyone want's to see a vid i guess i will buy some weights one day soon and do it in my basement cause there is NO way in hell im going to take a vid at my gym....and the reason for that is because there are ALREADY enough people in my town who know my buisness because of the ****ing ex-gf so a vid to back that up is NOT what i need right now.

If people here can't understand my situation and would have me risk my personal life just for a stupid vid then they can piss off....lol

There is nothing i would love more then to make people here eat there ****ing words:) BOO HOO, dremen has a good deadlift.....get over it.

Its a lot easier to make a cell phone vid at the gym rather than purchasing $500 of weights to make the vid at home... if people in your town dont respect you, than who cares.

I perched a camera on a barbell at my gym it took all of 30 seconds to make a vid, no one noticed. If you do 3 sets of deadlifts, all you have to do is hide the camera somewhere and go through your sets, shouldnt take more than 10 mins and you can speed up the time between sets.

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Originally Posted by CanadianIron

Its a lot easier to make a cell phone vid at the gym rather than purchasing $500 of weights to make the vid at home...

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This is true i will give u that, but last thing i need to happen is for me to lose my new job because i posted a vid. I will get one up soon, in the meantime i will try and get my max up a bit more just to shut people up for good.

What do i have to do to make this vid count CanadianIron? 5 plates per side for how many reps, 4 plates per side for hom many reps??? I would like to know so i can give exactly what is asked for.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by dremen

I can start off with 5 plates a side and do 3 sets/4-6 reps then drop to 4 and repeat sets/reps then drop dow again to 3 plates/side and start going a few more reps. I then up the weight again and push out a few more sets till i get a really good back pumps. I always go off the floor and hardly ever slam the weights down.

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Id like to see this^

Its hard to prove you didnt do warm up sets, but we can get past that. We dont know what your face looks like so dont post it in the vid, just film from the side/back and wear a hat. Finger the camera between sets and we'll know its you :friday

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Originally Posted by CanadianIron

Id like to see this^

Its hard to prove you didnt do warm up sets, but we can get past that. We dont know what your face looks like so dont post it in the vid, just film from the side/back and wear a hat. Finger the camera between sets and we'll know its you :friday

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Ok bro.

I MIGHT try and post a vid of my bench as well to get some feedback from u guys about my form or how i can improve it.

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And if everyone want's to see a vid i guess i will buy some weights one day soon and do it in my basement cause there is NO way in hell im going to take a vid at my gym....

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Who gives a **** what they think. If they say anything ( which I don't think they will ) you say it's because you want to check out your form and make improvements and you think they should do the samething.

WOW! what's the big deal about filming a lift?

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Originally Posted by Dallas Hogan

WOW! what's the big deal about filming a lift?

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What's the big deal asshole is i ALREADY lost a good job because people found out i use gear and if you think im going to lose the job i have right now for some ****ing stupid video for some stupid ****ing assholes who need to see it to believe it then you are WRONG sir.

Im in a small town and with my luck chances are someone will notice my gym and who I am and then dremen is connected to ME in reality and in NO way do i need that kind of heat right now.

Give me a month and i will have 600'lbs worth of weights in the basement and a vid to shut you ****s up. Honestly i CAN'T believe you assholes would have me risk my livelyhood for some ****ing video. **** you guys man......i will do 495lbs for 8 reps then 315 for 6 reps then 405 for 20 reps with no more then 30 seconds between lifts THEN pull 500 for 3 sets @3 reps.

P.s. If you can't deadlift 500lbs COLD you ****ing suck ass. God FORBID i can lift anything more then you guys.

I hope you ****ers choke on yer own words. ****ing lil kids man....

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Originally Posted by dremen

i will do 495lbs for 8 reps then 315 for 6 reps then 405 for 20 reps with no more then 30 seconds between lifts THEN pull 500 for 3 sets @3 reps.

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i think that you are gonna have to ban yourself from the site cuz theres no chance that you are gonna pull 405 for 20 after those other pulls......

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Originally Posted by tex

i think that you are gonna have to ban yourself from the site cuz theres no chance that you are gonna pull 405 for 20 after those other pulls......

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Yeh dremen, stick to the 500 lb pull for reps and leave it at that, or else this might happen to you.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=af5_1259891015&c=1

Ha ha
Dremen. U prob got fired cause ur a moron. Not roids

i live in a small town.. people assume im juice up big time.. i make vids.. people usually stand around and watch a big lift... i fail to see the problem here lol

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Originally Posted by dremen

What's the big deal asshole is i ALREADY lost a good job because people found out i use gear and if you think im going to lose the job i have right now for some ****ing stupid video for some stupid ****ing assholes who need to see it to believe it then you are WRONG sir.

Im in a small town and with my luck chances are someone will notice my gym and who I am and then dremen is connected to ME in reality and in NO way do i need that kind of heat right now.

Give me a month and i will have 600'lbs worth of weights in the basement and a vid to shut you ****s up. Honestly i CAN'T believe you assholes would have me risk my livelyhood for some ****ing video. **** you guys man......i will do 495lbs for 8 reps then 315 for 6 reps then 405 for 20 reps with no more then 30 seconds between lifts THEN pull 500 for 3 sets @3 reps.

P.s. If you can't deadlift 500lbs COLD you ****ing suck ass. God FORBID i can lift anything more then you guys.

I hope you ****ers choke on yer own words. ****ing lil kids man....

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I personally think you should have said to your former boss when he accused you... "does THIS look like the body of someone who uses steroids?"

If we can't tell your on and you've posted pics how the **** would the common person think it?