Dianabol Only

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Originally Posted by giannos

BB.com is for n00b's and wanna be 'vets' since they think having rep power means something. Spewing off garbage like puppets.

Dbol only is not the best cycle, but works in low doses over 6+ weeks. **** it even works in high doses for long periods of time, look at the 70's BB's. The fact people claim you will lose 90% of your gains is ridiculous. Again, its' not the best cycle but it has it's purpose

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90% of your gains is not ridiculous with high sodium and low water, I have seen guys put on 40lb in a dbol cycle, to end up loosing 30lb

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Originally Posted by Blitz-Test

90% of your gains is not ridiculous with high sodium and low water, I have seen guys put on 40lb in a dbol cycle, to end up loosing 30lb

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And Ive seen guys put on 20 pounds over 8 weeks and keep 16 of it. So whats your point ?

85 % of all statistics are made up on the spot.

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Originally Posted by theboss

85 % of all statistics are made up on the spot.

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So true. But we still have our own experience. In mine, I did not like the look of Dbol puffery. Even my face was fatter. When i went off, so did the bloat with only miminal muscle gain. Never use it any more. For quick start, Test prop or Tren ace every time.

Solo

I've used dbol only in the past while dieting on a very low calorie diet and it was great. I was able to keep up the intensity of my workouts, not lose any muscle and still get great pumps. This is in great contrast to someone looking at running their first cycle to try and pack on mass to build a solid base. If you know what to expect and your goals are reasonable then I really don't see why not.

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Originally Posted by giannos

And Ive seen guys put on 20 pounds over 8 weeks and keep 16 of it. So whats your point ?

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I believe it... I am saying that people can loose almost all of gains if not all without proper diet

It all end up on the indivudal and how well he handles his cycle. I have seen several friends run dbol onlyh, get big and strong and two months later you can barely tell that they did roids.. why? because Dbol cycles only suck. Having that said, somebody experienced with a decent base will probably do better, but that person will probably never run dbol only.
IMO Dbol only is usually run by novices that will most likely loose most of their gains regardless. Dbol is just idiot proof enough that you will gain weight ( water) even if your diet and training sucks
I hate that shit because my hair falls out, because it gives me gyno and because I simply do not like that much water retention. Tbol rocks compared to that.

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Originally Posted by Blitz-Test

I believe it... I am saying that people can loose almost all of gains if not all without proper diet

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Fair enough... Diet and proper training still rein supreme over drugs any day.

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Originally Posted by Socially_Inept

I've used dbol only in the past while dieting on a very low calorie diet and it was great. I was able to keep up the intensity of my workouts, not lose any muscle and still get great pumps. This is in great contrast to someone looking at running their first cycle to try and pack on mass to build a solid base. If you know what to expect and your goals are reasonable then I really don't see why not.

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This is a great example of what a dbol only cycle can help with

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Originally Posted by monkey

It all end up on the indivudal and how well he handles his cycle. I have seen several friends run dbol onlyh, get big and strong and two months later you can barely tell that they did roids.. why? because Dbol cycles only suck. Having that said, somebody experienced with a decent base will probably do better, but that person will probably never run dbol only.
IMO Dbol only is usually run by novices that will most likely loose most of their gains regardless. Dbol is just idiot proof enough that you will gain weight ( water) even if your diet and training sucks
I hate that shit because my hair falls out, because it gives me gyno and because I simply do not like that much water retention. Tbol rocks compared to that.

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Good post. I am in no way advocating a newbie run a dbol only cycle. However, if one has their diet and training down, it's not the end of the world. Better choices ?? For sure there is. I have used the dbol bridge at 5mg ED and loved it. I have also heard of guys running 5-10mg ED for life with no toxicity issues. Again, Dbol only or orals only do have a place in BB if used correctly.

Some "natural" guys in my gym used Dinabol in lower dosages, 5-15mg/day. They claim that it helped with strength gains big-time, and that they were able to retain 50% of the muscle. The cycle was 1 month on 1 month off.

Anyway, personally I think I'm no-where near the need to use juice. At least for the next 2 more years.

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Originally Posted by prokyon

Some "natural" guys in my gym used Dinabol in lower dosages, 5-15mg/day. They claim that it helped with strength gains big-time, and that they were able to retain 50% of the muscle. The cycle was 1 month on 1 month off.

Anyway, personally I think I'm no-where near the need to use juice. At least for the next 2 more years.

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Why call them natural then......also your last sentance there is like one of the first time ive heard someone say they arent ready and are gonna wait, props to you bro!