WTF Should Be Done About The Drug Wars?

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Originally Posted by beserker

Im not suggesting that they throw up their hands , i simply dont see a solution as drugs will always find their way into every city , its unfortunate but i think it is fact. If police etc... could stop chemicals for meth and coke being imported that would be great , i just think it is impossible. Sorry thats my bleak outlook.

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Yeah...I don't think the police in any country are equipped to stop the cocaine production,which is why I believe if the involved countries could actually export it legally they might decide to actually control it.I guess meth production could actually go to Mexico or further from North American markets...various agencies have tried supplying addicts with legal drugs to combat addiction and the people end up using that as their"base" to get high.

Throw all the addicts in special camps?

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Originally Posted by cog

Yeah...I don't think the police in any country are equipped to stop the cocaine production,which is why I believe if the involved countries could actually export it legally they might decide to actually control it.I guess meth production could actually go to Mexico or further from North American markets...various agencies have tried supplying addicts with legal drugs to combat addiction and the people end up using that as their"base" to get high.

Throw all the addicts in special camps?

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Thats one of the two options..... Option 1 is American style treat the addicts as criminals.
Option 2 is treat them as having an illness.
I still don't think you can save an idiot from himself.

But..... When you think about the social costs of addicts, maybe the answer is to really kick ass with people who are supplying the idiots.
I wonder what the % of heroin or cocaine addiction is in a place like Saudi Arabia where you'd get the death penalty for trafficking?

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Originally Posted by rob66679

Thats one of the two options..... Option 1 is American style treat the addicts as criminals.
Option 2 is treat them as having an illness.
I still don't think you can save an idiot from himself.

But..... When you think about the social costs of addicts, maybe the answer is to really kick ass with people who are supplying the idiots.
I wonder what the % of heroin or cocaine addiction is in a place like Saudi Arabia where you'd get the death penalty for trafficking?

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In some ways we are just a small step removed from lab rats given the opportunity to abuse various substances.Will have to look that up concerning Saudi.

look up portugal, and amsterdam...Portugal was featured in a good documentary i watched the other day, they have treated it like a disease, and have been very successful at making it work for them.....

here is a gooder for those with interest....
http://lubbockonline.com/world/2010-...ays-us-listens

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Originally Posted by ironwill

here is a gooder for those with interest....
http://lubbockonline.com/world/2010-...ays-us-listens

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Harm reduction does have the immediate effect of lowering the number of HIV transmissions.This is one issue where I can't understand the Harper gov,they have really opposed that centre in Van.Not sure who he listens to.

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Originally Posted by cog

Harm reduction does have the immediate effect of lowering the number of HIV transmissions.This is one issue where I can't understand the Harper gov,they have really opposed that centre in Van.Not sure who he listens to.

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If u ever get chance to sit for an hour and watch the "harm reduction" or "safe injection site" clinic action, you'll have a diff opinion...a flockin joke...sure safe inject but also meeting place for dealers, property crime artists etc...harm reduction my ass..its a meeting place to commit crime, sell ur stolen shit, take orders for "steal list", score ur dope and..oh yeah..safely inject it...don't be naive.

Until you work closely with this element, you'll never understand the dynamics of it...they have no conscience...they are fueled by their addiction and most are beyond help. Addicts have to "want" help to get better...I don't see that mind set around this palce...

police should have this cracked down hard so that kids cant get it anymore, i could care less if some adult wants to get ****ed up in his house. It should be borderline death sentence to sell drugs to kids.

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Originally Posted by razorsedge

If u ever get chance to sit for an hour and watch the "harm reduction" or "safe injection site" clinic action, you'll have a diff opinion...a flockin joke...sure safe inject but also meeting place for dealers, property crime artists etc...harm reduction my ass..its a meeting place to commit crime, sell ur stolen shit, take orders for "steal list", score ur dope and..oh yeah..safely inject it...don't be naive.

Until you work closely with this element, you'll never understand the dynamics of it...they have no conscience...they are fueled by their addiction and most are beyond help. Addicts have to "want" help to get better...I don't see that mind set around this palce...

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Never been around a safe injection site, everything you say is what I would picture it to be though.
Just to play Devils advocate though, wouldn't the same things be happening without a safe injection site, they'd just be taking place in a back alley instead?

Legalize EVERYTHING. That is all.