2010 FAME Canadian Championships

Thanks for the feedback guys.

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Originally Posted by Andre Gregoire

Guys what organization do you recommend for someone going to start competing naturally?

I was thinking mostly FCPAQ natural provincials and then the Canadian Natural Nationals (CBBF) if I qualify.

Is that the only route? What about the IDFA and neutron?

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depends what you want to take from it. Since you're near ottawa, there is always a couple of neutron shows. Makes for a cheap show since you don't need to worry about travel and hotels. However, the show tends to be small and always the same people competing. So not necessarily where you want to go if you want to guage yourself against others.

World qualifier is always in montreal now (as far as I know), so going the ifbb way, you'll always be able to go to the national event which would be fairly local. And I think for you, it might be easier since the natural provincials in quebec is usually (i could be wrong) right before the world qualifier - hence you can qualify and do the nationals in 1 diet.

For us in ontario, the natural show is in september, to qualify for a show about 7 months later. makes for 2 diets in a short time.

As for IDFA, shawn is a good guy, and I hear is running some good shows. They are getting big though, perhaps too big too fast - hard to tell. If I were you, I'd go the IFBB route, and do an IDFA show in the mix if it falls within a week or 2 of the other show, 2 birds with 1 stone so to speak,

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Originally Posted by steve_d

depends what you want to take from it. Since you're near ottawa, there is always a couple of neutron shows. Makes for a cheap show since you don't need to worry about travel and hotels. However, the show tends to be small and always the same people competing. So not necessarily where you want to go if you want to guage yourself against others.

World qualifier is always in montreal now (as far as I know), so going the ifbb way, you'll always be able to go to the national event which would be fairly local. And I think for you, it might be easier since the natural provincials in quebec is usually (i could be wrong) right before the world qualifier - hence you can qualify and do the nationals in 1 diet.

For us in ontario, the natural show is in september, to qualify for a show about 7 months later. makes for 2 diets in a short time.

As for IDFA, shawn is a good guy, and I hear is running some good shows. They are getting big though, perhaps too big too fast - hard to tell. If I were you, I'd go the IFBB route, and do an IDFA show in the mix if it falls within a week or 2 of the other show, 2 birds with 1 stone so to speak,

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Thanks Steve!

Like Ritch said "Don`t forget when you point, you have 3 fingers pointing back at you... "

So FYI; Greg Doucette was BANNED from competing with the FAME World Tour because he did not meet up the DRUG TESTING requirements of their sanctioning body, the World Natural Sports Organization (WNSO).

Shame too because prior to that, Greg was doing great as a natural bodybuilder.

So take everything Greg says with a grain of salt. Do your own digging. Contact FAME directly and ask about these rumors. Remember rumors are always slanted. Don't fall prey. Just my 2 cents.

What do I recommend? FAME all the way. It's one giant family. Athletes are treated so well, and their philosophies are great. It's a lifestyle. BodyProud. It's what it's all about.

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Originally Posted by lovetotrain

Like Ritch said "Don`t forget when you point, you have 3 fingers pointing back at you... "

So FYI; Greg Doucette was BANNED from competing with the FAME World Tour because he did not meet up the DRUG TESTING requirements of their sanctioning body, the World Natural Sports Organization (WNSO).

Shame too because prior to that, Greg was doing great as a natural bodybuilder.

So take everything Greg says with a grain of salt. Do your own digging. Contact FAME directly and ask about these rumors. Remember rumors are always slanted. Don't fall prey. Just my 2 cents.

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Since you brought up testing. Tell me, what are the testing procedures for the WNSO/FAME competitions? Piss test? Blood test? Hair follicle?

Polygraph?
natural shows are a joke

Here is the copy n paste from the actual WNSO site:

WNSO Drug Testing

The WNSO takes the responsibility of maintaining a level playing field free of performance enhancing drugs very seriously. Therefore the WNSO has a 4 layer system in place to prevent and detect the use of banned substances in WNSO competition.

Doping Control Waiver:

All athletes must sign their name to the Doping Control Waiver outlining that they follow the natural requirements of the WNSO. Legal action may be taken against anyone caught attempting to cheat the system and their fellow athletes.

Physique Screening Panel:

Athletes will be screened by the Physique Screening Panel during the first round of competition on show day. All athletes sign a waiver prior to competing and agree to be questioned and evaluated by the Physique Screening Panel. Should the panel determine the athlete does not fit the natural look or has reason to conclude the athlete is displaying results from banned substance usage, the athlete can be flagged for mandatory urine testing, or banned from competition depending on the severity of the attributes in question.

Urinalysis:

Urine testing will be required by competitors flagged by the Physique Screening Panel, and additional ones will be taken from a random sampling of competitors at each competition. The judging panel may request any competitor to submit a urine test at any point during the
competition, from registration through Finals.

Out-of-Competition Drug Testing Policy:

All competitive athletes may be subject to random urine testing at any time before or after a competition (up to 2 years since last show). Upon selection, a competitor will be given 24 hours to report to a WNSO designated local lab. Athletes not complying with a drug test request may be banned from WNSO competition.

FYI , greg passed a 100 of FAMES tests. they decided to do an out of contest test for greg during easter weekend which would have required greg driving 4 hours out of the way to get "tested" during a holiday weekend with family.

FAME ws simply pissed at greg because he kept asking them for the 1000s of $ they owed him. So take whatever "lovetotrain" says with a grain of salt. Everyone will agree with the empty promises fame gave out back then. Try contacting other athletes and photographers who were promised money and didn't get it. Why do you think they keep switching venues? because they owed money to the previous ones. and so on. Who knows. maybe they re good now, but back then they were getting too big too fast and it hurt them.

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Originally Posted by lovetotrain

Here is the copy n paste from the actual WNSO site:

WNSO Drug Testing

The WNSO takes the responsibility of maintaining a level playing field free of performance enhancing drugs very seriously. Therefore the WNSO has a 4 layer system in place to prevent and detect the use of banned substances in WNSO competition.

Doping Control Waiver:

All athletes must sign their name to the Doping Control Waiver outlining that they follow the natural requirements of the WNSO. Legal action may be taken against anyone caught attempting to cheat the system and their fellow athletes.

Physique Screening Panel:

Athletes will be screened by the Physique Screening Panel during the first round of competition on show day. All athletes sign a waiver prior to competing and agree to be questioned and evaluated by the Physique Screening Panel. Should the panel determine the athlete does not fit the natural look or has reason to conclude the athlete is displaying results from banned substance usage, the athlete can be flagged for mandatory urine testing, or banned from competition depending on the severity of the attributes in question.

Urinalysis:

Urine testing will be required by competitors flagged by the Physique Screening Panel, and additional ones will be taken from a random sampling of competitors at each competition. The judging panel may request any competitor to submit a urine test at any point during the
competition, from registration through Finals.

Out-of-Competition Drug Testing Policy:

All competitive athletes may be subject to random urine testing at any time before or after a competition (up to 2 years since last show). Upon selection, a competitor will be given 24 hours to report to a WNSO designated local lab. Athletes not complying with a drug test request may be banned from WNSO competition.

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I don't care what a site says. I care what is ACTUALLY done.

WHICH tests are actually performed?