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Hey, welcome, glad to have you on the site!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zyko
Can you please tell me how to make sure i get through the fat? Would it help if i inj in an area with less BF (upper abdomen)... im using 1/2" needles
I've done it a few times in area around my belly button and i get the itchy sensation you describe
thanks!!
Great read. Thanks.
I've never tried putting it into my upper abs, but more fat is easier to notice when your through I would think, I can try now when I inject my insulin? using insulin is much safer to test for me with diabetes, first of all, i can check if my body will absorb it from those locations, and how well, usually stomach absorb alot faster than if it got shot in the leg, because its a larger absorbtion area and its closer the vital organs.Quote:
Originally Posted by legaliz3
Well to make sure you get it through the belly fat is to make notice
-no stinging
-after injection it might get itchy if you are not used to it, if there is a bump then its not through (although irritation bump and wrong inject bump differs The main difference being that the bump that is wrongly injected can be felt like a marble in the skin, while the irritation bump is soft and not as round formed, its like a nippletip so to say, little bump but with a flat backside), if you get a little "pain" umm a little sting like feeling you probable hit at small nerve in the skin layer nothing to worry about.
The most noticeble to have made a good injection is no bumps.
-Now I dont know if you are a girl or a guy, but it should not matter really, never ever take it too close to the bellybutton and thats even if its insulin, this will sting like mad and may be very well potencially dangerous.
another way to know you've come through the bellyfat and into the "pocket" where you are supposed to inject it, is that you dont have to use alot of force(of course this force applied is actually really easy to notice because you will feel the skin swelling)
Now when you've taken the injection, take in consideration on how large a dose you injected, the larger dose you will most probable feel a large "sack" in a large area, now this confirms that its under the fatlayer and is inside the pocket I refered to earlier. Also, about the distance from an older shot, these holes you "make"(the skin is made of billions of holes) its pretty rare to get a scar, may vary on how thick the needle, the thicker the needle is the more itching will occour. because you are ripping skin tissue with large needles, if you use insulin needle sizes, they usally only expands the holes, of course some gets ripped. but 1/2 inch apart of each injection site is a good thumb rule. 2-4 days(varies from persons, for me 3 days is good to go) inbetween before you can use the same spot again is also needed to consider.
Ok, going to have a double post here, but its because I have now taken the insulin shot at my upper abs/ lower chest even*
for steroids Im not sure if its safe though its pretty close to your heart.
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9343/picture11q.jpg
The ring and the dot is exactly where I placed it, now dont mock my body because Im in a real sloppy position. ;)
I am red around the area because I usually pinch a little to hard sometimes, and on the upper I had to pinch harder.
Waiting to see if its working.
Also another addition to know if you've gotten through when you pump your juice in, you will often feel the liquid coming inside you, because it doesnt have exact body temprature, its also not extremly important when doing
Sub-Q's to have body temprature, room temprature is more than enough. of course not if the room is like 14C/57.2 fahrenheit and lower :p
EDIT: I can post a picture to where I inject my insulin and/or steroids, Also from the picture all can see that I use very low amounts of steroids, I am a diabetic also I am not bulking :p and I want to keep som fat and water retention.
I didnt notice what you said about your needle length before now, but I also use 1/2" They are usually the most common used needles for diabetic pens, so they should be enough for you, what are your bf %? I got a approx 12-14% varing on measure method and 1/2" needle is perfect for me.
Update: Ok, the insulin is being absorbed, no itchin occouring, I feel easily when I've injected anything in my body as I try to notice it, but no soreness what so ever, also no pain when taking the inject, felt the area getting filled with insulin, was a good chill feeling, so I expect it should work, but at very small dosages, I cant give you an exact dosage, insulin dosages and steroid dosages is not measured the same way
Topic to be read!
https://healthlibrary.epnet.com/GetC...chunkiid=33267
just to fix up, the fatlayer which creates the bump is the thin layer between the skin and the proper fat layer that is Sub-Q
you see the gray line? now thats the problem that you may have had if you got a bump and its staying.(aka you have not reached through)
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I am just going to state this about the lump you had for 2.5 weeks, this I can experience with insulin as well, the cause is because the sub-q area was loaded to fast with too much(maybe first time you injected sub-q there?) the lump is like a bump you get if you hit your head hard into something, not exactly the same, but its basicly saying do not mess with that area until the lump is gone, also people, after injecting, DO not rub the area hard, this will make a lump because its like exploding your sub-q area and the body makes the lump saying its fixing like it does with bruises . ;)
By the way, can people post what steroids you have used Sub-Q? Just to confirm all that currently has been proved to work.
Boldenone and Growth hormone, Have been done here. :)
^^That website says: "A subcutaneous (SQ) injection is a shot where the needle goes into the fat layer between the skin and the muscle to deliver a certain amount of medicine."
Looks to me like you want to inject into the fat itself. Which makes sense, it seems unlikely that you'd be able to accurately get it underneath the fat.
I have been off cycle for 4 months. I just tried .25 of Test prop subQ, and we'll see if I feel it tomorrow :)
http://services.epnet.com/getimage.aspx?imageiid=7659
Well I think you will be feeling fine :)
and about the injection into the fat layer, the underside between the skin and fat is where the bump is going to be, its just a misconception of the work "pocket" between muscle and fat :p
ok another info update, regarding insulin amount, I use 30 entities of long lasting insulin 1 entity = 1.6 mmol/l
meaning 48 mmol insulin on 1 spot is perfectly doable on the thigh atleast.
48 mmol = 864 mg/dl
From further reading some steroids are measured the same way as insulin
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...37;2Fl+mg%2Fdl
x amount mmol (multiplied by) 18 = x amount mg/dL
x amount mg/dL (divided by) 18 = x amount mmol
seems it measures
IGF-1 LR3, HGH, and INSULIN
I tried winstrol suspension a few years back and had some serious issues with redness and pain.
I am trying .5ml sub q today 50mg/ml thus, 25mg.
Wish me luck.
I was having really bad reactions to masterone and decidied to shelf it, but then I read this thread and decided to try it out, well I shot on saturday, and my stomach is messed. I have a half a tennis ball lump on the side of my belly, and I tried really hard not to inject into fat, I did a show 1 month ago so im not carrying to much anyway, shot correctly (or so I think) and have decidied to shelf the gear again. It was extremely painful for the first couple of days and I dont think I could live with that kinda pain all ovet my abdomin. From what I've read it should start decipated soon I hope, I'm almost tempted to stick I pin in and drain it but dont want to make things worse. Let me know what you think, or advise. P.S anyone want half a jug of masterone, lol.
Injected .5ml of winstrol in my stomach fat with a slin pin
injection went fine, started to feel some pain and a small bump after about 5-6 hours. the slight pain remains today, just a tad of redness, barely any. can't feel the pain unless i touch it. so all in all, not that bad, but i don't think i could do tihs everyday if it will result in small little pain spots all over my body.