3rd day back to the gym in over 4 weeks. I had to put this one up. Anyone still believe me that Im natural? lol
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3rd day back to the gym in over 4 weeks. I had to put this one up. Anyone still believe me that Im natural? lol
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Yeah.Why not?
Didnt mean to sound cocky. I just get asked all the time if Im on. I guess theres no fooling you
Almost anybody could get fooled unless you were really huge and hard.People can be on and they don't look like it.Ive seen a friends kid,5'5 and basically the same background as Tom Platz work hard for three Frickin months and have a great sweep,everybody was asking him what he was using,he was natty.Just depends....
lol....no way thats natural man....
**** and here I thought you had super natural powers of flight... Now I'm disappointed :P
But seriously good base to start with,
Seems to have good potential.
Eric
I LOVE hearing that. thanks manQuote:
Originally Posted by ironwill
And no I will never start juicing
How tall are you ?
5'10 177lbs Im thinking around 12%BF
Potential is there to get big, good work buds
You look pretty thick for a relatively low bodweight, I'd guess from those pics you'd be around 190 lbs at that height and condition. Are your legs and back up to snuff ?Quote:
Originally Posted by actualnatural
LOL....In all seriousness, you have a good base man....Keep up the hard work..Quote:
Originally Posted by actualnatural
My back is my best muscle. My legs are catching up, but my upper body deffinately over shadows them. 25"' at mid point. I only started doing legs like 2 years ago. I figured because I played hockey there was no need to do them. big mistake. Still, Im squating 365lbs to parallel without a spot. So They should catch up. Im hoping when Praetorian starts my first clean bulk in a couple months that Ill make up some ground.
Good squat numbers dude. Your legs WILL , not should , catch up. Seems as though you have put together a quality build sans AAS. With your genetics your body can still go a long way without gear. Having said that, once you feel you've tapped out your potential there is no harm in running a little bit of test. AAS is safe to use if researched properly and not abused. Good luck either way and congrats on your hard work thus far.Quote:
Originally Posted by actualnatural
Thanks man, not interested though.
I was the same way, good on ya if that is the path you so choose...Quote:
Originally Posted by actualnatural
I maxed out at about 225, and very lean....I busted my ass day in and out, did all the tricks..405 bench press, 500 lb squat....
Then i partook, now numbers for strength are higher, not as much as my bodyweight went up, not even close..
Now at 250-260 lbs, i am very lean, look great, IMO...BUT, the numbers are not a whole heck of a lot higher in my lifts, they do go up, BUT, not as much as my bodyweight and LBM did...
So i personally think they assist in recovery, putting meat on them bones, and assist in nutrient partitioning, and able to stay lean while growing....BUT, as far as strength gains, not as much as i had anticipated...
I go off for a long stretch at a time a couple times per yr, my strength always remains, but i drop about 15-20 lbs each time ...Not just water unfortunately..It comes back within weeks..
So it all depends upon your goals man...STAY TRUE TO YOU!!
Good for you. You'll save a shitload of money anyhow !Quote:
Originally Posted by actualnatural
People allready think Im too big as is, so no point. Can't wait for my clean bulk program and then the contest prep. Should be I good pic.
If were to compete would I get my a** handed to me or do the judges consider that your natural?
if you bring the conditioning, than you will do alright. With just size and poor conditioning, hell yes!
Only Place the judges consider natty is a natty contest.
Honesty??? You would get your ass handed to you, you are a good beginner, but we still cannot see legs, back etc...After you drop fat and water au natural, you will be a wee fellow...Quote:
Originally Posted by actualnatural
Keep building some beef..
BTW, who thinks you are too big??
Do you live in china??lol
I live in the northern alberta its all crack head oil patch workers up here. I would never compete anyways I know every one is on there so what would be the point. Ive just been told by some people who have friends that compete and claim that there life long natural and hold there own. Obviously b.s
The point would be........ going through the process, doing the HARD WORK that is required, knowing you did your personal best, and got up on that stage. Who cares who is on and who isn't!!! If you give it your all, it is an accomplishment that a person feels very proud of!! There is different federations for different purposes.Quote:
Originally Posted by actualnatural
Good luck with your goals but remember people do things for different reasons, its not about how big you are, what juice your on, but setting a goal and sticking to it!
Lots of folks lie, say they are not on, for legal reasons, just to lie and make someone think they are big, but could be bigger if they used. Lie for the sake of lieing? Who knows all the reasons..All i know is if you lie, you will be found out..Quote:
Originally Posted by actualnatural
I personally get tired of people lieing, being insecure with the whole thing....It stinks..
But as far as competing goes...Keep eating, growing, then see what you can do..We are all big fish in our little ponds, jump in the ocean, outside of your pond, it is a humbling experience...It will change your entire perception of who you are as far as a bber, and if you should lie, or not lie about being on hormones......
It is a small world in this bb world we live in, we know who dabbles and who doesnt, for the most part....Or we know someone that knows someone, that absolutely knows one has dabbled, then lies about it..looks silly really.
9/10 times you will get blown off stage BUT I do know a couple of guys who juiced like crazy and only weighed in at 150lbs too. A good natty would have beaten them. Keep progressing and anything is possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by actualnatural
annnnd gone...
Your back looks decent for 177 lbs.What kind of numbers are you using in the squat?
Im trying to get my probiotics\metabalism back so this is after a 7 day yogurt and pasta bender. Im at about 185lbs here. Im squating 365lbs to parallel.
Im never using isolate again.
Not bad.I wasn't aware of isolate causing people any problems.
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Originally Posted by cog
I use water and not milk with my isolate so from the lack of dairy in my diet I was not getting the good bugs my stomach needs. The reason was so that I keep my macros/calories in order. I might try using isolate again next cut but Ill be taking a probiotic supplement like allign.
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heres what I cut down to. looking pretty dry
Kind of look like a skeleton. haha
Some of the guys here have it down to a science but it's still tricky.
theres not a doubt in my mind that next cut Ill be way leaner and a bit bigger. This was the first time Ive every followed a meal plan. Im doing a bulk right now for 5 months to get my metablism back. 8 months from now I should have an impressive pic for an "actual natural"
That would be good.I hate it when an 18 yr old is using for some bs reason.Let them see it's possible to look good natty.