Does anyone know how long you have to be clean for in order to compete in a natural competition? ( assuming they piss test you ) i would hate to put in all that hard work doing it natural only to fail a piss test cause of done juice in the past.
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Does anyone know how long you have to be clean for in order to compete in a natural competition? ( assuming they piss test you ) i would hate to put in all that hard work doing it natural only to fail a piss test cause of done juice in the past.
uhh if you juiced in the past you are still not natural.Quote:
Originally Posted by CallmeB
but I believe the time limit of previous use is 5 years or something like that
Yes i deffinitly dont want to call myself "natural" I was just curious what the time frame is where you could compete.
For it to be fair to us natural guys, you'd best wait a lot longer then for it to be clear from your urine. Otherwise you will fall into the category of "natural the day of the show" - which hardly seems fair.
Different federations have different rules. Some don't have rules.
if u used deca 2 years and you clean. if not 1 year and they will not find anything
Has anyone ever done a comp both natty and juiced? if so how were the results? I could not imagine keeping even half the size i did when i did my show without some help!
i dont think u should be entering a natural show if u have done steriods ever, its not fair to hardgainers who have worked their ass off the pack on mass over 10 years when u did it in 2, could u feel good about winning this type of comp?
I just don't think natural shows should exist (I'm assuming we're talking BBing shows, of course).
No i sure wouldnt. I know how much work it takes.. and i know the amazing feeling of pure self accomplishment you get when your at that level.
I do attribute lots of my gains to steroids..
But what if i made the life choice to be clean from now on, & in 10 years down the road I wanted to do a natural comp, your saying that it should not even be option?
my buddy did. He competed for years sauced up , took 8 years off and then came back to compete in the worlds. He kept his size pretty well actually but he also works with Laura Binetti (had for about 15 years) so she knew how to bring him in really wellQuote:
Originally Posted by CallmeB
**** your hard gainer shit. Eat more and you won't be a hard gainer.Quote:
Originally Posted by JacktheThriller
hehehe...Quote:
Originally Posted by natenator
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Originally Posted by natenator
if food was all it took to gain mass muscle you would be on roids ,ass:moon
food is 90% of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JacktheThriller
Try it..
only if u eat ur roids lol
go fist a pig dipshitQuote:
Originally Posted by JacktheThriller
I know this wasn't pointed at me, but I'm not using and I'm also bigger and stronger than most. I DO, however, eat.Quote:
Originally Posted by JacktheThriller
A lot.
Always.
you need food and lots of it
you need training and lots of it
you need rest, and lots of it
you will get big with the above
add in gear, you will get bigger, as you can eat more with out putting on excess fat, and you can lift more weight.
nate my hobbies are none of ur concern
AlladdinSane is your gym the one above PHO SO 1 that I always hear weights drop on the ground like they are gona fall through the roof onto my plate? Iv always wanted to venture up there!
Correct. Come in and I will call you "B" to your face. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by CallmeB
Hmmm maybe friday! i have the day off. I live in the deep south! so its a long journey over there!
I don't really know 10 years down the line. Obviously thats something ud deal with then, as long as u are content with your decision and don't consider it cheating then go for it
The olympics are considered 'natural'... and we all know how many 'natural' athletes compete in the olympics... natural sports of any kind are a joke...
I hope I am not bursting anyones bubbles ;)
:) you are absolutely right!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
Andre
Sorry to burst the bubble that you live in where Rocky was still cool and when Russia was referred to as the USSR BUT.....not all athletes are on roids and A N T please don't agree for the sake of looking cool. It's not like he's the one administering these drug tests and catching them, he's reading it off google.com like everyone else here...Quote:
The olympics are considered 'natural'... and we all know how many 'natural' athletes compete in the olympics... natural sports of any kind are a joke...
It's the internet, think for your self seriously....it's not hhaaarrddddddd duurrrr
good joke... im not going to looking cool! i just post my opinion!Quote:
Originally Posted by Atarii
rose coloured glasses
most competitive athletes and most bodybuilders, even natty ones have had help from time to time with performance enhancing drugs
Correct. Just the ones we see on tv during the olympics (except for maybe ribbon dancing).Quote:
Originally Posted by Atarii
You're a goof.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atarii
It's been proven that there are A LOT of athletes that use performance enhancing drugs, not everyone but A LOT of them do. The ones that are not careful enough with it get caught but for the most part people don't know about it. Is it cheating? Yes, but you have to prove that people are cheating before you can call them out. I personally think that if you have ever done steroids you shouldn’t be competing in “Natural” competitions because you have built up a platform with steroids for yourself 5 years ago or whatever and now you are just tweaking it naturally.
A goof is a nice way of putting it :flagCQuote:
Originally Posted by AlladdinSane
I had a whole thing typed up in regards to how retarded you are Andre but then i realized I don't give a shit.
Good to have you back cdnsolder :trollQuote:
Originally Posted by Atarii
The quality natural organizations in the states generally require 5 years, NPC natural streams are 2 years clean. However, they usually polygraph everyone along with piss testing the winners of each class.... in canada i doubt the CABBA Natural stream even does polygraph
Sounds like I should just hop back on some crank and compete again here locally!
i would say if you want to compete clean for yourself, do it! enter a natural show or a tested show.. is it for you or the first place trophy? there's nothing wrong in wanting to try it w/o gear..
i think deca is the longest metabolite to be picked up in a screen? somewhere around 18 months??
There is simply no way your going to get huge training natural and eating alot. Eating alot is probably the biggest mistake that 95% of competitors do. There are so many better bodybuilders out there who I know for sure could kick my ass is they simply dieted harder and did more cardio. Eating more = getting fat. Simple as that. The leaner you are off season the more you will keep when dieting. To go from using performance enhancing drugs and competing to not using and competing would be a very drastic and devistating experience.
There are bodybuilders who have who heavyweight and overall titles and now compete in natural feds but are much much smaller. There is simply no way a natural competitor can be even close in size to the pros.
As far as fedurations natural requirement they are all different. I don't believe polygragh tests because I have competed in contests using these where everyone passed dispite latter failing the uring test.
If you did a search on the internet you could see how long you would need to pass a test and its alot less long then you would think depending on what you took.
The only way a contest could really be even is if they test all the competitors out of contest. I recomend you just compete for the fun of it and just be all you can be. When I go into a contest my goal is to look better then the last time I competed and if I do then its a personal victory. I could care less at this stage of the game if I win. Id rather get 3rd out of 20 then 1st against no one. If you compete in a natural show and win does not mean your the best natural bodybuilder jsut mesans someone better never showed up and if you get last does not mean your worst natural competitor either as there is a good chance that many of the guys who placed ahead of you had a lot of help.
Bottom line friedns and family are not going to cafre what place you get if you don't. They will cheer you on no matter what and if you look good who cares how you compare with others.
good post
Well said, as well competing naturally for most is only natural when they are on stage. They go on gear that clears faster such as test. Then they go off the gear and show somewhat smaller yes but with a huge advantage. The built on gear but showed naturally. Happens all the time, and its too bad it does but that is the way most people place.Quote:
Originally Posted by gregdoucette
I myself have placed top 3 most shows but I didn't do that cycle to get there? Some do some don't and some that do, don't do it right and they sometimes get caught and sometimes they don't.
But that is life right?
what makes you think you could even place?:moonQuote:
Originally Posted by CallmeB