Final Thoughts!

[jacked_to_the_nine]

ahhhh o.k. well this is gonna be it then...

wk 1-10 equi/test 450ml (250ml test-E/200ml EQ) EW
wk 1-10 EQ 300ml EW
wk 1-12 proviron 25mg ED
wk 6-12 winni 50mg/ml EOD
wk 6-10-12-14 HCG 500iu x2 at wk 6, 500iu x2 at wk10, 500iu x2 at wk 12, 1000iu x2 wk14
wk 12-14 nolva 40/40mg ED
wk 12-14 aromasin 12.5mg ED
wk 14-16 aromasin 25mg ED
wk 16-18 nolva 20mg ED
(i read the nolva/aromasin synergy report)

this is all i can afford so if i ace it, then i see some sweet gains in strength and endurance in it for me, plus i don't think training 4 hours a day will be a problem either!

or i could do twice the the EQ and test prop for cheaper, with the proviron through out and HCG/Nolva for pct... but i'm pretty confident in this even though its a bit of a cram!

[St]

You cycle looks good,but you can't train 4 hours a day,and as for Prop your fine with Test e .

[Big D]

300 ml eq ??? 450 ml equi test ??

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

300 ml eq ??? 450 ml equi test ??

yeah i was thinking the same thing!??


why keep then at the same dosage??

well thats what im reading any way your keeping both your test and eq at 500MG per week?


maybe test at 750 and eq at 500?? this would be what id like to run the two at!


TVG

[Seth]

^ the guy doesn't know the difference between a mg and a ml; small detail that can have huge consequences

Jacked: is this your first cycle?

[Big D]

^ the guy doesn't know the difference between a mg and a ml; small detail that can have huge consequences

Jacked: is this your first cycle?

ya exacly 300ml of eq in a week, you would be one big pocket of oil after that

[bigtavi8]

300 ML hahaha thats like a ****ign water bottle full of oil....lolol..ya im pretty sure its 300mg or they may be a problem (ie. football sized absess). That may require a vicious pct at 300ml of 300mg/ml EQ.lol..its low dose 90000mg EW using a 1 inch glute incision and a dirty oil funnel.

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

lol


im sure he meant mg ive made the same silly mistake before


so if he did mean mg and not ml i think its always a good idea to have your test mg per week higher then eq my friend!


TVG

[BritishColumbian]

its always a good idea to have your test mg per week higher then eq my friend!

TVG

Agreed 100 %

[jacked_to_the_nine]

aaaaaaaaaahahaha! ya i ****ed up, not 300ml, that would be enough for 3 hourses! i meant 300mg/ml, and the equi/test is a combo of 250mg/ml of test_e and 200mg/ml of EQ, so 1 shot is 450mg/ml in all, plus i will be taking 300mg/ml of EQ on top of that, so thats 500mg/ml of EQ a week, test is low cuz i don't wanna run this without test... my buddy told me though that the EQ is a waste, but then again, he is pretty jacked, and i'm 180lbs 8% BF, so i think this will do me... in regards to first cycle, well i must say this would be the fisrt real planned cycle with test in it... i've done deca/winni D/d-bol/materon/anavar/nolva/arimidex/ and i tried to use this open bottle of tren once from this dude and ****ing almost died, fell over and started foaming at the mouth, and i kept trying to run for 2 weeks even after that, then i got bronchitus and my immune system went to shit, bad experience, ahahahha! but ya, i think i'll be keeping every inch of gains from this, the pct is planned well, i have a good feeling about it!

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

aaaaaaaaaahahaha! ya i ****ed up, not 300ml, that would be enough for 3 hourses! i meant 300mg/ml, and the equi/test is a combo of 250mg/ml of test_e and 200mg/ml of EQ, so 1 shot is 450mg/ml in all, plus i will be taking 300mg/ml of EQ on top of that, so thats 500mg/ml of EQ a week, test is low cuz i don't wanna run this without test... my buddy told me though that the EQ is a waste, but then again, he is pretty jacked, and i'm 180lbs 8% BF, so i think this will do me... in regards to first cycle, well i must say this would be the fisrt real planned cycle with test in it... i've done deca/winni D/d-bol/materon/anavar/nolva/arimidex/ and i tried to use this open bottle of tren once from this dude and ****ing almost died, fell over and started foaming at the mouth, and i kept trying to run for 2 weeks even after that, then i got bronchitus and my immune system went to shit, bad experience, ahahahha! but ya, i think i'll be keeping every inch of gains from this, the pct is planned well, i have a good feeling about it!
so your gonna stick to the cycle you posted then??



and as far as taking an open bottle of anything for "this dude" WTF!

he prolly put veggie oil in it after taking a shit and not washing his hands!

practice safe and clean procedures when dealing with putting stuff like this in

your body my man! Dont want ya dying and steroids getting blamed, and not

stupidity! like it should be!


TVG

[nisser]

aaaaaaaaaahahaha! ya i ****ed up, not 300ml, that would be enough for 3 hourses! i meant 300mg/ml, and the equi/test is a combo of 250mg/ml of test_e and 200mg/ml of EQ, so 1 shot is 450mg/ml in all, plus i will be taking 300mg/ml of EQ on top of that, so thats 500mg/ml of EQ a week, test is low cuz i don't wanna run this without test... my buddy told me though that the EQ is a waste, but then again, he is pretty jacked, and i'm 180lbs 8% BF, so i think this will do me... in regards to first cycle, well i must say this would be the fisrt real planned cycle with test in it... i've done deca/winni D/d-bol/materon/anavar/nolva/arimidex/ and i tried to use this open bottle of tren once from this dude and ****ing almost died, fell over and started foaming at the mouth, and i kept trying to run for 2 weeks even after that, then i got bronchitus and my immune system went to shit, bad experience, ahahahha! but ya, i think i'll be keeping every inch of gains from this, the pct is planned well, i have a good feeling about it!

You still don't get it. You have to say THE QUANTITY of gear that you are injecting. Saying you are taking test 250mg/ml doesn't say how much you are taking.

[BritishColumbian]

hmmm... I wonder why they make Eqtest at 250mg/ml test and 200mg/ml Eq ?
Probably because you shouls always take more test than Eq and not the other way around....JMO

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

hmmm... I wonder why they make Eqtest at 250mg/ml test and 200mg/ml Eq ?
Probably because you shouls always take more test than Eq and not the other way around....JMO

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TVG

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

TVG

[jacked_to_the_nine]

ya i learned my lesson with taking open bottles man, it was really stupid, and i was not thinking! and o.k. i don't think i know what mg/ml means then, i just don't know how write it down... but 1ml of oil has 300mg of EQ in it and i will run 500mg EW of it along with 250mg of test EW, this will be for 10 weeks. thanks for the help!

[Seth]

mg/ml is a concentration. Lets say every 1 ml yields 250mg, you have a 250mg/ml product, therefore if you say you take 2 ml per week, you'd be taking 500mg.

So you've got 3;
ml -> volume
mg -> weight
mg/ml -> concentration

You normally write the weight you'll take per week/day/whatever laps of time. Volume is irrelevant

[jacked_to_the_nine]

i see, i get it now... so i'll be taking 1ml of the equi/test that contains 250mg test and 200mg EQ, and then 1ml of EQ 300mg/ml on top of that, so 500mg per ml of EQ EW... and 250mg per ml of test EW... hence the term taking (300mg/ml EQ EW) --- / --- means per i guess... thats a hot pic btw, i wish i had a tight light cherry shooting me up ED!

[BritishColumbian]

Hmmmmmm........

[jacked_to_the_nine]

why... because of slinky's?

[BritishColumbian]

can you post a pic of yourself please? I have never seen anyone 'Jacked to the nines'
Thanks bro

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

to put this simple my man!

you are not ready for the juice!



READ READ READ!!!


stick around learn lots and in time you'll know what is what! till then man go natural

this forum has lots to offer jacked to the 9's but for now stay in the light!


TVG

[jacked_to_the_nine]

ya, i've never done a planned cycle before and thats whay i'm here... i have done juice though and i have kept alot of my gains, excpept i'm always going up and down in weight classes for sports so is a juggle... i would post a pic but they end up being bigger then the screen, plus i don't know i may be competing for some pretty big promo's so maybe my identity should be vegue, but i could crop my face out... o.k. well i changed my mind about the cycle, its too short!

Wk 1-14 EQ 400mg/ml EW
Wk 1-10 Test-E 250mg/ml EW
Wk 2-14 Priviron 25mg ED
Wk 1-8 Anavar 40mg ED
Wk 6-12-14-16 HCG 500iu x2 EW
Wk 16-20 Nolvadex 40/20mg ED

i wanna really feel that EQ! and is it sensible to run the proviron 2 weeks in, makes sense no? don't say not enough test, cuz i know i don't wanna gain too much weight!

[nisser]

That cycle sucks ass. Have you listened to any of the feedback in your thread?

[jacked_to_the_nine]

ya, i'll get there, i an't gonna do it till its right... its also a $$$ flow thing... i know 10x more now then i did when i started though! besides this may suck, because you've done way more then me, or what? i don't wanna gain 30lbs, jesus, i would rather gain that over 2-3 years man then try and gain that in 14 weeks, no thanks!

[Big D]

what about a cycle like this

1-14 test E 500mg/week
1-16 EQ 600mg/week
HCG is up to you


no need for the proviron or anavar that way you'll save alot of $$$ , and this is not to much test, 500mg is a good amount,
I know your worried about gaining weight, the thing about gaining weight is it dosent matter what you take or how much, gaining weight is all about how you eat.

[jacked_to_the_nine]

well in any case, that cycle i have posted would be a pretty jacked up cycle no? i mean come on, does that not look somewhat tasty?

[Ritch]

If you say you really wanny feel the equipoise and plan on running 400mg you may be dissapointed. I think the general consensus of 600mg is what`s needed. Also if you decide to run eq, do it for at least 16 weeks, which will mean you will need enough test for 18 weeks. If you`re on that long, you will need at least 10 000 units of hcg, some arimidex while on just in case, then your pct drugs which will consist of either clomid, nolvadex or aromasin or even a combination of a few of those drugs. The doses Big D layed out for you should be good. Worried about loosing hair? You will need some proscar as well, it`s like this shit never ends.

I hear you about the $$$. To get everything I mentioned, not to add stuff like taking at least 6 omega pills a day this shit adds up.

Your making a mistake by running the equi, longer than the test, everybody will tell you that. If money is a conern, I`d ditch the equi because you`re not taking enough test in the first place and take more test, say 500mg. Because you don`t seem decided on doing a long cycle, forget the equi. So if you want to do a 12 weeker, do 500mg of test, with an oral for 4-8 weeks depending on what you can afford. Many will say to run the oral around week 4 if you do it for only 4 weeks because of the synergy you will get with the test. I`d run it from the start if doing it for only 4 weeks, because I find 4 weeks is a long time to start to get results when on.

[Drummer]

The compounds look ok, tho the whole cycle is very complex for no good reason. May i suggest :

wk 1-12
---------

200mg test e EOD
150mg EQ EOD
proviron 25mg ED (if you want)

wk 4-15
---------

HCG 200iu EOD

PCT
----
wk 12-18
----------
20mg nolva 12.5mg aromasin ED

I dont usually list doses per week cause there is an uneven amount of days. I find it easier to list shot frequency in days. Its about 600 test and 500 EQ a week. Just my thoughts.

~D~

[tex]

^^ what he said. no need to complicate things......

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

The compounds look ok, tho the whole cycle is very complex for no good reason. May i suggest :

wk 1-12
---------

200mg test e EOD
150mg EQ EOD
proviron 25mg ED (if you want)

wk 4-15
---------

HCG 200iu EOD

PCT
----
wk 12-18
----------
20mg nolva 12.5mg aromasin ED

I dont usually list doses per week cause there is an uneven amount of days. I find it easier to list shot frequency in days. Its about 600 test and 500 EQ a week. Just my thoughts.

~D~

there you go 9's

TVG

[giannos]

what about a cycle like this

1-14 test E 500mg/week
1-16 EQ 600mg/week
HCG is up to you


no need for the proviron or anavar that way you'll save alot of $$$ , and this is not to much test, 500mg is a good amount,
I know your worried about gaining weight, the thing about gaining weight is it dosent matter what you take or how much, gaining weight is all about how you eat.

^^^^^^^^^^ BANG ON

This is sensible and less complicated. This cycle will jack you to the nineteens if you eat and train properly. No need for too many compounds...( altho I'd run the test 2 weeks more than the EQ )

Good post D

[jacked_to_the_nine]

well my eyes are bleeding now from all the reading i've done over the last month, and the from the forum suggestions with all the diffrent opinions and options, i'm left feeling like a small child lost on a cold december night, looking for mother!... i've read anthony roberts BS pct protocol, and even i, "a new pube" was left feeling uneasy about it! Gus has pretty much made it clear on hcg, it makes complete sense to mimick your own bodies out put, thus if i run the hcg then i will run it that way indeed... simple is best, your right, unfortunatly i have been stuck with 2 bottles of var and i've already started useing them, so no matter i will have a kickstart of sorts for whatever cycle i'm gonna do... i wanted to do EQ because i want to be VERY vascular, and jacked looking, muscle gain not so important, i've come to believe that proviron is a great perk for adding to the effect of other steroids and supressing estrogen build up while on cycle, i don't see why anyone wouldn't use it!


wk 1-13 EQ 500mg EW
wk 1-10 Test-E 250mg EW
wk 2-13 proviron 25mg ED
wk 1-8 Anavar 40mg ED (already started)
wk 1-2-6-8-10-13 Hcg 250iu 2xEW
wk 13-16 Nolva 40mg ED
wk 13-16 Aromasin 12.5mg ED
wk 16-18 Aromasin 25mg ED
wk 18-20 Nolva 20mg ED

COMPLICATED! so instead, **** it, i will run my first ever just test cycle, with the var cuz i'm already doing it!

wk 1-12 test friggen prop, 200mg EOD
wk 2-13 proviron 25mg ED
wk 1-8 anavar 30mg ED (whatever, friggen var, i was impatiant)
wk 1-2-6-8-10-13 Hcg 250iu 2xEW
wk 13-16 Nolva 40mg ED
wk 13-16 Aromasin 12.5mg ED
wk 16-18 Aromasin 25mg ED
wk 18-20 Nolva 20mg ED

seriously, i'm going to order like tommorow so my fate is in your hands! i will be jacked to the nines no matter what!!!! and if you think i'm gonna blow up like an elephant gun on the test cycle please tell me, i can't gain more the 10lbs of weight that i can't cut with in a week k!