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JonnyO
09-08-2009, 11:03 PM
The PCT program outlined below represents what I consider to be an ideal and effective post-cycle program. It was developed by the doctors at the Program for Wellness Restoration (PoWeR), who have a formidable history helping patients recover normal hormonal functioning following steroid therapy. One of the key doctors on this program, Dr. Michael Scally, claims to have successfully treated more than 100 cases of hypogonadism/hypogonadotrophic hypogonadism, and is very well known in the field of androgen replacement therapy. PoWeR published this program as part of a recent clinical study, which involved 19 healthy male subjects who were taking supraphysiological (highly suppressive) doses of testosterone cypionate and nandrolone decanoate for 12 weeks. Their HPGA Normalization Protocol focuses on the combined use of HCG, Nolvadex' and Clomid, and is perhaps the only clinically documented post-cycle therapy program to be found in the medical literature (it is amazing how little attention has been paid to hormone normalization in clinical medicine). The most notable variation from a classic PCT stack, such that I have been a longtime supporter of, is the combined use of two anti-estrogens. In this case I cannot say that there is disadvantage to such use, perhaps it is indeed the better option.

Examining the program closely, we note that the testes are hit hard with HCG at the onset of therapy. Its intake however, is limited to only 16 days. The doctor, undoubtedly recognize that when HCG is taken for too long or at too high a dosage, it can desensitize the LH receptor. This would only further exacerbate the post cycle problem, not help it. Anti-estrogens are used during and after HCG, with a dosage of 10 mg of Nolvadex and 100 mg of Clomid per day rounding out this compliment of drugs. Clomid is used for a shorter period of time than Nolvadex, likely because of the desensitizing effect it too can have (on the pituitary gland) with continued use.

Among other things, these two anti-estrogens will continue to foster LH release as testosterone levels start go back up, as well as combat any potential estrogenic side effects that may be caused by HCG's up-regulation testicular aromatase activity. Although in the first couple of weeks the anti-estrogens probably do very little they should be much more helpful towards the middle and end of the program. During this clinical investigation normal hormonal function was restored in all subjects, within 45 days of drug cessation. This is a definite success far more favorable than the protracted recovery window noted in studies without post-cycle therapy, such as 250 mg/week testosterone enanthate investigated highlighted in Figure I. For me, I believe such a detailed recovery program should follow any serious steroid cycle It is the best way to maintain your gains at their maximum and that is, after all, what we are after.

JonnyO
09-08-2009, 11:10 PM
This is basically what I follow but I use Aromasin rather than Nolvadex. Also my HCG isnt as high as outlined above, I will use anywhere from 1000-1500iu EOD.

LIVEHARD
09-08-2009, 11:18 PM
Great post Jonny Glad your a MOD I will save it

xzon
10-08-2009, 12:27 AM
do u run hcg while on cycle? such as swales pct 250-500iu ed if necesarry??

JonnyO
10-08-2009, 01:09 AM
do u run hcg while on cycle? such as swales pct 250-500iu ed if necesarry??

Nope never.

deleteduser0002
10-08-2009, 01:15 AM
Excellent post!

gustavo77
10-08-2009, 08:56 AM
Nope never.

So you let the leydig cells of the testes shut down or go dormant for long periods of time??

Keeping the leydig cells functioning and even producing some test on cycle seems like a smart idea IMO. HCG causes damage/desensitization in high or too frequent doses. Moderate doses over time have not shown to cause any damage to the leydig cells. In fact many HRT docs prescribe HCG with testosterone for long periods of time.

If HCG is used on cycle @250-500iu every 3rd day or simply twice per week (HCG causes peak output of the testes in 72hrs, taking shots any sooner will cause over-stimulation and can damage/desensitize the leydig cells), one could simply wait for the clearance of the AAS and start SERM/AI therapy. In addition, using HCG on cycle will negate the need for higher and potentially damaging doses of HCG to "kick start" the leydig cells of the testes into action at the end of the cycle.

waderow
10-08-2009, 11:10 AM
is it just me, or is the "program" not detailed?

JonnyO
10-08-2009, 11:10 AM
To damage or desensitize the leydig cells takes large amounts for prolonged periods of time, For me just over two weeks isnt going to do that.

I'm not saying using HCG on cycle is wrong, it's just not something I do as it's just complicating the cycle even further, lol, I have enough to think and worry about. Starting it at the end of my cycle has worked for me so thats what I stick with.

ironwill
10-08-2009, 12:02 PM
i think there is a bunch of info missing, like hcg doseage info etc...

gustavo77
10-08-2009, 12:25 PM
To damage or desensitize the leydig cells takes large amounts for prolonged periods of time, For me just over two weeks isnt going to do that.


I agree with you and IMO 1000-1500iu is not an excessive dose for HCG...i just think that keeping things working on cycle is the way to go. If using HCG at the end works fine for you bro, then go with it.

For myself, there is a psychological thing that happens when my boyz shrink...plus i am almost 35 and still want to have kids...for me, the less risk of permanent shut down the better, hence why i like to keep the boyz working all the time. And taking a slin pin loaded with HCG twice per week is a small price to pay for that.

daande
10-08-2009, 10:51 PM
That is the same PCT I will be running after my 2nd cycle 12 weeks of test and equipose.