xxx lab

[Tballs]

Anyone know whats going on with xxx.

[wolverine]

No..... is there some thing up with them??? everything is good I think..... please share your concern!!!

:popc2

[L3]

i heard, again, i repeat i HEARD (read: unconfirmed) that for the time being there has been no communication with corporate, and the company may be leaving sweden

yknowhatimsayin

[canadianmuscle0803]

everything is just fine, im not sure what you guys are talking about.

[cdnsoldier]

everything is just fine, im not sure what you guys are talking about.

You sure? There have been huge shortages and I am talking to one of the top guys.

[IronRobi]

Notice it's this guy's first post.....

[nitrous]

ya i heard all is well in sweden

[wolverine]

I called the corporate head office in Sweden today and they confirmed they are still doing business, some of their smaller branches through out the world may be feeling the effects of the world economy right now but the company is kicking in employee incentives to keep the movement stable, if any of you are concerned you need to focus harder, that's all!!!!!

[tex]

i have been hearing of communication probs.....caused me to cut my primo cycle short.....sux dong

[manfreakca]

everything is just fine, im not sure what you guys are talking about.

i havent heard shit

[ironwill]

i havent heard shit
how do you do that????:flagC

[toynut]

gotta say, i have the same feeling,
shortage happening for a couple of contractors...

[canadianmuscle0803]

You sure? There have been huge shortages and I am talking to one of the top guys.

everything should be just fine bro..

[canadianmuscle0803]

I called the corporate head office in Sweden today and they confirmed they are still doing business, some of their smaller branches through out the world may be feeling the effects of the world economy right now but the company is kicking in employee incentives to keep the movement stable, if any of you are concerned you need to focus harder, that's all!!!!!

great post :)

[con_man]

I called the corporate head office in Sweden today and they confirmed they are still doing business, some of their smaller branches through out the world may be feeling the effects of the world economy right now but the company is kicking in employee incentives to keep the movement stable, if any of you are concerned you need to focus harder, that's all!!!!!

Excellent post,

explained thoroughly...

Conman

[Tballs]

Notice it's this guy's first post.....


heres my second, your greasy

[tex]

heres my second, your greasy
lmfao......

[wolverine]

great post :)

I thought you guys would like that one !!

[manfreakca]

runnin test and deca only 450mg test 600 mg deca blowin up and hornier than a bull frog in apond

[hyperlite32]

how do you do that????:flagC

Good one! LOL.

[dinosaur]

I just got some off of my guy... no issues now or ever.

[rated_rko]

sweden is good... i wanna go live there

[Dk]

runnin test and deca only 450mg test 600 mg deca blowin up and hornier than a bull frog in apond


I just got some off of my guy... no issues now or ever.

there shouldnt be issue with the gear.

i just heard one of the top guys is going missing in action for awhile so its unsure of what is gonna happen to the lab

[greekgod]

Recently, there was a post on OLM from a guy saying that he was using xxx Anavar and was experiencing extreme bloat from it. He had also stated that his guy was temporarily not stocking xxx due to "quality issues". Unfortunately, the thread was quickly deleted by mods so I could not get any more info. This is the reason I am now a member on this board. OLM deletes so many of their treads that it is hard to find out the truth about anything.

I have noticed that my guy has recently minimized his selection of xxx and is now carrying different labs instead. I am currently using some xxx Letro and it is much weaker than other labs I have used. I opened up one of the capsules and it tastes like flour. I used to buy letro from a different lab in a liquid and that stuff was always super bitter. However, I have also used many other products from xxx with amazing results.

UPDATE: An xxx rep contacted me and sent me a replacement batch. He was very friendly and apologetic. xxx has excellent customer service and I highly recommend them.

[JoeDiggX]

Every lab uses different fillers but most high quality labs will use methylcellulose as their filler. MC has virtually no taste and is digestible such that any of the active compound bound to the MC is also processed by the digestive system thus systemically available and not lost through the colon ... Flour seems like a plausible filler for economical sake as does dextrose in most of our capsule usage.

JD

[Sandwiches]

lmfao......

x2

[greekgod]

Every lab uses different fillers but most high quality labs will use methylcellulose as their filler. MC has virtually no taste and is digestible such that any of the active compound bound to the MC is also processed by the digestive system thus systemically available and not lost through the colon ... Flour seems like a plausible filler for economical sake as does dextrose in most of our capsule usage.

JD

Ya, it is very possible that it contains a filler. I will have to wait a little longer to see if the letro ultimately does it's job before I jump to any conclusions.

[gustavo77]

I know female competitors that use xxx var with no bloat or virilization issues...I'd take what you hear on OLM with a grain of salt...lots of people out who have a stake in bashing other labs...

I know that from time to time labs can unknowingly get a poor batch of API's, this may be the case with your letro. Who knows... I know their adex is potent though, i am very sensitive to esto and one cap eod works great for me on 600mg+ of test per week.

[greekgod]

My xxx letro is still not working at all. By now, I usually have no more gyno. I am experiencing no side effects or anything. I am going to have to give my aromasin and nolva a try. This sucks big time because I only use letro in the event of an emergency.

[greekgod]

I contacted my xxx rep and he refunded my money and is no longer going to carry xxx. According to him, "Ya bro I've had complaints on xxx letro, to be honest i've had many complaints on many different products as of late....quality and service has went in the shitter."

[wolverine]

Wow if this is true it is a sad day because it is some of the best I've seen in a long time!! maybe a bad batch??

[Dk]

Wow if this is true it is a sad day because it is some of the best I've seen in a long time!! maybe a bad batch??


wouldnt be the first bad batch xxx has put out then (t400 last year)

once is a mistake, but 2 bad batches and i wouldnt even give em the time anymore

[sierra1]

Could this be one of the reasons why a major international supplier has stopped carrying this line?

[gustavo77]

Holy speculation...lol... Every lab has problems with raws once in a blue moon, you just don't always hear about it... Not saying this is the case with the letro cause i do not know.

What I do know is that i am using xxx Primo, adex and proviron right now and all three products are effective. The primo is bring out a little more vascularity (primo started approx 3 weeks ago), the adex is keeping the estro sides at bay on 600mg of HG test per week and the proviron is working very well in the bedroom.

[Kronis]

This is troubling indeed. A post on the main boards a few months ago (weeks maybe?) had me worried.

Hopefully it all works out.

[force]

Could this be one of the reasons why a major international supplier has stopped carrying this line?

I noticed that also, just dropped him an email to see whats up. Seems he replaced his "xxx Canada domestic" service with another lab...which I have been dying to try actually :)


At any rate it would not seem favourable for xxx.
F.

[Kilburn]

whn i was a newb i thought xxx was good but that was before i tried xxx. now that i have more experience, looking back i view xxx as garbage.

very inconsistant. some m1t was good, other bottles didnt seem to do fuk all.
very overpriced compaired to xxx and very inferior product also. their skinny vials (EQ) were def not 20mls, more like 15. if it even was EQ which i doubt. bad batch of test. crystalized tren. etc.

anyway, none of this surprises me. iv known it was off for awhile now, that's why i switched as soon as i had the opportunity.

[SmallieBigs]

Glad I don't rely on this lab... Too bad to see one that, apparently, used to be gtg go downhill.... although it seems like they all do at some point... I guess greed always wins out... can't understand how they don't make enough money doin' it right though...

[canadianmuscle0803]

this sounds like complete bullshit.. i have SO much experience with xxx and maybe 1 out of 100 guys complains.. just ask around here.. my boy just started his first cycle of 600mg test and eq @ 450 and hes up 20lbs in 5 weeks... whoever your guy is, is either working for another lab or just talking shit... there is no better lab in Canada if you ask me.

[canadianmuscle0803]

some of you guys really need to think about what you say before you say it.. some of these posts are completely outrageous..

[canadianmuscle0803]

wouldnt be the first bad batch xxx has put out then (t400 last year)

once is a mistake, but 2 bad batches and i wouldnt even give em the time anymore

what issues have you had with xxx.. list them in order please.. yes t400 was very painful..

[canadianmuscle0803]

Could this be one of the reasons why a major international supplier has stopped carrying this line?

no..

[nisser]

Just how are their personal experiences outrageous?

[theboss]

i am not one to bash labs and have zero experience with xxx product...I have heard good & bad about xxx...I hope if there is any truth to what i am reading they are able to turn things around for the better.

[canadianmuscle0803]

Just how are their personal experiences outrageous?

they are a little beyond personal experiences.. rumors and speculations are personal experiences?

[Bowlcut]

what issues have you had with xxx.. list them in order please.. yes t400 was very painful..

His was bunk if my memory serves me.

[dinosaur]

I don't think anything needs to be turned around. Everything is on par as usual as far as I am concerned. I just assume people are supporting other labs and are trying to put down the competition. I guess that makes sense though.

[dinosaur]

His was bunk if my memory serves me.

lol... if it was bunk, it was faked then... not real xxx

[canadianmuscle0803]

His was bunk if my memory serves me.

bunk? i dont know how i would even start with replying to this.. nothing xxx has every put out my way has ever been bunk..

[Mister T 72]

We shall see how well xxx test cyp measures up.
I'm running 940mg/week along with 600mg EQ....
In week 7 right now...and plan to get my test levels checked while on cycle to see where things are!!

[Bowlcut]

bunk? i dont know how i would even start with replying to this.. nothing xxx has every put out my way has ever been bunk..

I think the deal was there was a problem with the batch.
In my experience my friends and I had NO issues with their products.
The test P is pain free for being high dosed.

[greekgod]

this sounds like complete bullshit.. i have SO much experience with xxx and maybe 1 out of 100 guys complains.. just ask around here.. my boy just started his first cycle of 600mg test and eq @ 450 and hes up 20lbs in 5 weeks... whoever your guy is, is either working for another lab or just talking shit... there is no better lab in Canada if you ask me.

Don't get me wrong. I have also had amazing results from xxx in the past. The letro is the first time I have ever got anything bunk from xxx. Personally, I am going to stick with HG from now on because I hate labs that are inconsistent. If you want to keep using xxx, I could care less...I am just sharing my own experience.

[greekgod]

I was planning to buy some xxx primo until I started having problems with the Letro. I have never used primo before but I thought it took 6-8 weeks before it started to kick in because of its long ester?

[canadianmuscle0803]

We shall see how well xxx test cyp measures up.
I'm running 940mg/week along with 600mg EQ....
In week 7 right now...and plan to get my test levels checked while on cycle to see where things are!!

i would love to see those results!!

how have your results been so far?

[canadianmuscle0803]

I was planning to buy some SA primo until I started having problems with the Letro. I have never used primo before but I thought it took 6-8 weeks before it started to kick in because of its long ester?

good luck finding legit primo.... probably the most expensive compounds out there besides anavar.. i know for a fact that there are many many fakes out there.. i have not used xxx primo but Gus has so he can share his experience on that.

[Dk]

jesus how many times do we have to go over this underdosed t400 issue.

Especially with you CM08 haha, i swear youve questioned me on this everytime its been posted since it happened, yet you always forget.

Their batch of t400, i even still have the bottle, one sec.

it was during when they switched their name to xxx before going back to just xxx. old 20ml vials

Batch Te650719
Ex Feb 10
it was was on the batches that was all Enth. it was CONFIRMED there was a mixup in the lab, and the ENTIRE batch was underdosed, by alot. and i know there are people on CBB who had the same batch who can back this up.

and xxx reps admitted this, most were compensated, i never even bothered going through the process cuz it was just 1 bottle and i already had ***** gear ready to go so i just let it go.

many of my friends who got it with me, got the same order, same t400, dbol, nolva, everything was fine, the t400 was fake.

everytime i bring this up all you say it "just because it was painful doesnt mean it was fake" EVERYTIME haha, it wasnt painful, it was fake. We've been over this bro hah.

[nitrous]

good luck finding legit primo.... probably the most expensive compounds out there besides anavar.. i know for a fact that there are many many fakes out there.. i have not used xxx primo but Gus has so he can share his experience on that.

i'm also extremely curious on what Gus thinks about xxx's primo and other labs like 5*...

[greekgod]

good luck finding legit primo.... probably the most expensive compounds out there besides anavar.. i know for a fact that there are many many fakes out there.. i have not used xxx primo but Gus has so he can share his experience on that.

I agree that legit primo is hard to find. I miss the days when I could get stuff tested. As far as I know, Gus loves xxx primo but I will let him speak for himself.

[crackdawg]

I have been using 800mg of xxx Primobolan for the last 7 weeks
started noticing results about week 5
good results BUT outta the 4 10ml vials I have only been
getting 8 shots (8ml) per bottle, which sucks
besides that I have no complains
I have 4 more bottles coming and hope they are the full 10 ml

[cdnsoldier]

Primo at the cost level is very expensive. I would wager 90% of the UGL don't use real Primo. Or they aren't sold real prino by their powder supplier. Don't think these suppliers of raw materials in China and India wouldn't slip you some misnamed shit.

[crackdawg]

it's legit bro, I'm so cut, I need a fu@kin bandaid

[Dk]

Primo at the cost level is very expensive. I would wager 90% of the UGL don't use real Primo. Or they aren't sold real prino by their powder supplier. Don't think these suppliers of raw materials in China and India wouldn't slip you some misnamed shit.

not sure about xxx.

but xxx powders are all tested before hand

[trainharder]

Primo at the cost level is very expensive. I would wager 90% of the UGL don't use real Primo. Or they aren't sold real prino by their powder supplier. Don't think these suppliers of raw materials in China and India wouldn't slip you some misnamed shit.

What other substances are usually used to masquerade as Primo?

[crackdawg]

nothing, he doesn't know what he's talking about

[srt8]

not sure about xxx

but xxx powders are all tested before hand

Lol

[Dk]

Lol

going by what i hear

[srt8]

Primo at the cost level is very expensive. I would wager 90% of the UGL don't use real Primo. Or they aren't sold real prino by their powder supplier. Don't think these suppliers of raw materials in China and India wouldn't slip you some misnamed shit.

I would wager that you are wrong and 90% of them do use real primo, maybe they'd underdose if anything but they'd use real primo. At one point a gram of primo was hmm, the same price as a cheeseburger meal from mcdonalds. Even at double that, the price labs charge reps they still make a nice profit.

Im talking about 90% of labs on the boards and that are praised, not the small shit hole labs in the gyms.

[srt8]

going by what i hear

not one lab in canada tests there powder or product every batch, and now adays it's near impossible to test anything as is. What you hear is marketing BS.

[Sandwiches]

xxx is still around?!? :beer

[Mister T 72]

[QUOTE=canadianmuscle0803;202420]i would love to see those results!!

how have your results been so far?[/QUOTE

I'm sure my dr will have no problem doing the blood work for me.And I have had blood work for test levels prior to running any aas last year as a baseline to compare to....

So far...@ week 7....I can say I am not impressed in the least with the results,but....having said that,there is still plenty of time as these are long esters and I will be running them for 22-24 weeks.It also bears mentioning that the first # of weeks of the cycle were not the best as there was stress in my life,a lack of sleep and was difficult to maintain a proper diet.The last 2 weeks things are going smoothly and diet is in check,much better sleep habits now also.

There are a lot of factors that can contribute to lack of results, and I know the first few weeks of my cycle were NOT optimal for seeing those results,and....long esters take time to "kick".Personally for my own satisfaction,I would like to have my test levels checked while "on" to see where they are.

I am in NO way bashing xxx products....just stating my experience thus far with these compounds.And it is truthfully to early to pass full judgement,especially since my diet and sleep habits were not condusive to seeing the best results in those first 4-5 weeks .I will be ordering a few extras to finish my cycle and yes it will be xxx products......
When I have the blood work results,THEN I can honestly say without question and personally I hope the results show high test levels and by then my cycle will be well under way and the results will be obvious

sorry for the long post :ilu

[dinosaur]

this is just wrong... unless of course, as I stated before, somebody else faked it.

[dinosaur]

going by what i hear

DK, in a respectful way, I would like to point out that this is the problem.

Just going by what you hear. Because I heard that all the new xxx coming out is actually Vampire blood. So now you've heard it, spread the news. :)

[canadianmuscle0803]

[QUOTE=canadianmuscle0803;202420]i would love to see those results!!

how have your results been so far?[/QUOTE

I'm sure my dr will have no problem doing the blood work for me.And I have had blood work for test levels prior to running any aas last year as a baseline to compare to....

So far...@ week 7....I can say I am not impressed in the least with the results,but....having said that,there is still plenty of time as these are long esters and I will be running them for 22-24 weeks.It also bears mentioning that the first # of weeks of the cycle were not the best as there was stress in my life,a lack of sleep and was difficult to maintain a proper diet.The last 2 weeks things are going smoothly and diet is in check,much better sleep habits now also.

There are a lot of factors that can contribute to lack of results, and I know the first few weeks of my cycle were NOT optimal for seeing those results,and....long esters take time to "kick".Personally for my own satisfaction,I would like to have my test levels checked while "on" to see where they are.

I am in NO way bashing xxx products....just stating my experience thus far with these compounds.And it is truthfully to early to pass full judgement,especially since my diet and sleep habits were not condusive to seeing the best results in those first 4-5 weeks .I will be ordering a few extras to finish my cycle and yes it will be xxx products......
When I have the blood work results,THEN I can honestly say without question and personally I hope the results show high test levels and by then my cycle will be well under way and the results will be obvious

sorry for the long post :ilu

i respect what you say.. but right now i know a very experienced bodybuilder with a very good build on him doing only 500mg of cyp a week with 40mg dbol a day for first 4 weeks and this guy cant stop praising it.. he has almost every lab canada has to offer and he keeps telling me this is the best hes done.. i would love to see some blood work done on you to see what yoru test levels are at because as you said too many factors play a role in results.

[Dk]

this is just wrong... unless of course, as I stated before, somebody else faked it.

the t400 issue is LOOOONG over. this was mid-last year, and it was confirmed by direct known xxx reps.

My order was Dbol, t400 and nolva, the dbol was awesome, the t400 wasnt, it all came from the same place, directly from lab to my rep, to me.

people need to accept that there are screwups. This is NOT a new issue.

This was around..i dont even know, september last year

[Mister T 72]

You are right CanMuscle..too many factors CAN play a role in the results seen!!
And I know those first 4-5 weeks were not the best in terms of MY own requirements to get the most out of this.
The prop/tren a cycle I ran last summer with xxx gear was excellent!! Results were seen in 6 days...but again,my diet,rest etc was ON !!

Gear is not the answer...it's just part of the equation.The rest lies with each of us to do our part in getting the most out of it.When I have the test results I will gladly share them,I suspect it will show some high numbers...

Now I'm off to train quads n calfs !!

[gustavo77]

I was planning to buy some xxx primo until I started having problems with the Letro. I have never used primo before but I thought it took 6-8 weeks before it started to kick in because of its long ester?

6-8 weeks??...lol... it is not a decanoate estered AAS..lol.. Dude i can feel test E within 2 weeks. Do i get strength gains?? Weight gains?? Not really, but i am pretty in tune with my body and i know when i have more test in my system.

What i actually said was that after roughly 3 weeks on the primo at 600mg per week, my vascularity is much more noticeable than when i am just on test. And no it does not have to do with BF cause i am just as fat now as i was three weeks ago....

[gustavo77]

whn i was a newb i thought xxx was good but that was before i tried 5*. now that i have more experience, looking back i view xxx as garbage.

very inconsistant. some m1t was good, other bottles didnt seem to do fuk all.
very overpriced compaired to xxx and very inferior product also. their skinny vials (EQ) were def not 20mls, more like 15. if it even was EQ which i doubt. bad batch of test. crystalized tren. etc.

anyway, none of this surprises me. iv known it was off for awhile now, that's why i switched as soon as i had the opportunity.

Lol...nice advertizement for xxx.... i have never in over two years of using it, have ever received an underfilled vial of xxx gear...not once...so you should learn how to draw your gear properly...

[canadianmuscle0803]

You are right CanMuscle..too many factors CAN play a role in the results seen!!
And I know those first 4-5 weeks were not the best in terms of MY own requirements to get the most out of this.
The prop/tren a cycle I ran last summer with xxx gear was excellent!! Results were seen in 6 days...but again,my diet,rest etc was ON !!

Gear is not the answer...it's just part of the equation.The rest lies with each of us to do our part in getting the most out of it.When I have the test results I will gladly share them,I suspect it will show some high numbers...

Now I'm off to train quads n calfs !!

hows your libido? do you recover faster from workouts? did you weight go up yet? have a good workout bro

[canadianmuscle0803]

Gustavo-

can you rate and review your experience with xxx primobolan please?

[waderow]

jesus how many times do we have to go over this underdosed t400 issue.

Especially with you CM08 haha, i swear youve questioned me on this everytime its been posted since it happened, yet you always forget.

Their batch of t400, i even still have the bottle, one sec.

it was during when they switched their name to xxx before going back to just xxx. old 20ml vials

Batch Te650719
Ex Feb 10
it was was on the batches that was all Enth. it was CONFIRMED there was a mixup in the lab, and the ENTIRE batch was underdosed, by alot. and i know there are people on CBB who had the same batch who can back this up.

and xxx reps admitted this, most were compensated, i never even bothered going through the process cuz it was just 1 bottle and i already had ***** gear ready to go so i just let it go.

many of my friends who got it with me, got the same order, same t400, dbol, nolva, everything was fine, the t400 was fake.

everytime i bring this up all you say it "just because it was painful doesnt mean it was fake" EVERYTIME haha, it wasnt painful, it was fake. We've been over this bro hah.

I have nothing to do with xxx, but sounds like a mix up, not a fake batch. And sounds like they owned up to it and stood by and refunded or whatever they did.

xxx is the best UG test I have run to date.

[pseclint]

I love Lamp

[gustavo77]

Gustavo-

can you rate and review your experience with xxx primobolan please?

This is my third time running it and i love it....why else would i spend my savings on it??

The reason i like it is because i get good vascularity and hardness without sides...i love the way my physique looks on the stuff. Tren is too hard on my psyche, EQ gives me wicked anxiety, winny kills my joints and masteron makes my prostate feel like it is gonna explode...Primo with test and low dose d-bol is my favourite cycle now.

[trainharder]

Primo with test and low dose d-bol is my favourite cycle now.

That was Arnold's cycles as well...except in higher doses ;)

[srt8]

xxx is still around?!? :beer

Yessir, probably 1/50 the size they used to be though lol.

[Mister T 72]

hows your libido? do you recover faster from workouts? did you weight go up yet? have a good workout bro



Haven't seen an increase in libido as of yet,but it has always been high so lol
My weight has stayed the same pretty much,have seen a slight decrease in body fat....so there has been a lbm gain.

This is my first run with long esters,and I may be the type where it takes longer to kick.Have encountered no side effects to date,but I attribute that to injecting every 3 days.The reason for E3D injections is simply to cut down on the volume of each injection.So far....no bloating,which I am a liking lol

Speaking of injecting...right delt here I come

[canadianmuscle0803]

Haven't seen an increase in libido as of yet,but it has always been high so lol
My weight has stayed the same pretty much,have seen a slight decrease in body fat....so there has been a lbm gain.

This is my first run with long esters,and I may be the type where it takes longer to kick.Have encountered no side effects to date,but I attribute that to injecting every 3 days.The reason for E3D injections is simply to cut down on the volume of each injection.So far....no bloating,which I am a liking lol

Speaking of injecting...right delt here I come


ok there has to be something wrong here.. 7 weeks and your not feeling much? im sorry but i have done a shit load of xxx products and none have failed me.. something doesn't seem right here bro.. will you go and get a blood test and show us the results? and i mean a copy of the results not just something you type lol

[Mister T 72]

Trust me I will get blood work done.And the results will be a scan of the paperwork from the lab.If I remember correctly it will take some time for the results....like 5-6 weeks but not a problem!
And if I can find the results from the bloodwork from last years tests..I'll even include those for reference.Which were prior to my cycle last summer

[phatkid77]

I think what he meant, as I was told this as well...

They test evry poweder they get to see if the melting point?? Is what it is suppose to be for that powder..something like that

I mentioned that to my xxx guy b4 mia, said xxx did it as well...who knows

Phats

[Kilburn]

Lol...nice advertizement for 5*.... i have never in over two years of using it, have ever received an underfilled vial of xxx gear...not once...so you should learn how to draw your gear properly...

just my opinion from personal experience. i'm not trying to advertise shit. xxx is probably even better than 5*

[Kronis]

I'm buying a 20mL syringe for my next run so I can post pics of exactly how much is in there. My last one was dead on 20mL.

I seriously think a lot of people don't know how to inject properly and take in.1 or .2 extra every time they draw, which they then leave in the needle.

I've heard of labs that overdose by 1 or 2 mL and I think it's just to account for user error.

[phatkid77]

wow, just read this thread, my last post was on crackberry but wanted to add this

as t_rex pointed out, the melting point indicates what chemical, and thats why it was explained to me as i jokingly asked if my letro was abombs cause i was up weight...lol i then got the melting point theory

also, xxx rocks...sorry i no longer have access to them...truely great stuff..

phats

[trainharder]

I'm buying a 20mL syringe for my next run so I can post pics of exactly how much is in there. My last one was dead on 20mL.

I seriously think a lot of people don't know how to inject properly and take in.1 or .2 extra every time they draw, which they then leave in the needle.

I've heard of labs that overdose by 1 or 2 mL and I think it's just to account for user error.

How do you prevent any gear from being left in the needle? (Do you allow a bit of air in the syringe so it can push it out?)

[Kronis]

How do you prevent any gear from being left in the needle? (Do you allow a bit of air in the syringe so it can push it out?)

Yup. I do what's called an "air-lock". You just inject 0.1 or 0.2mL of air behind the injection. Nurses do it all the time.

[natenator]

I'm not so cheap to have to worry about .1 or .2ml of gear.

[SmallieBigs]

^^ I am.... lol

[trainharder]

I'm not so cheap to have to worry about .1 or .2ml of gear.

.1cc doesn't sound like much but if you're losing .1cc on every 1cc injection, that's 10% that you're shorting yourself.

[Kronis]

I'm not so cheap to have to worry about .1 or .2ml of gear.

It's a lot to waste when you're doing .7mL injects. It's more of an accurate dosing method than a waste issue though. And I'm sure I wouldn't mind a minor loss if I homebrewed like some lucky people. ;)

[canadianmuscle0803]

LOL @ they test all their powders.. melting point is one way to test.. but this statement is complete false advertising if you ask me.. melting point test vs real lab test = not even remotely the same.. i think even home brewers test their powders with the melting point.. kinda like common sense to me 2+2=5 lol

[OntariOMuscle101]

I know female competitors that use xxx var with no bloat or virilization issues...I'd take what you hear on OLM with a grain of salt...lots of people out who have a stake in bashing other labs...

I know that from time to time labs can unknowingly get a poor batch of API's, this may be the case with your letro. Who knows... I know their adex is potent though, i am very sensitive to esto and one cap eod works great for me on 600mg+ of test per week.


I frequent OLM a lot and I dont think I have heard a whisper on xxx products in a long while!.....This is new to me.

[gustavo77]

I know bro, i was just bustin' balls... * is an excellent brand... * is awesome as well..

[Descimus]

Just my experience here, i am on 40 mg of xxx anavar, i am lethargic as hell and 9 pounds (i am doing ckd diet and watching my sodium) heavier after 1 week getting estrogen side effect and holding water big time so i decided to add xxx aromasin and after 3 day of it i got light tracer just like when i do clomid still not shedding water...

[gsxr750]

^^ Now that's odd. 9 Pounds gain in a week on a CKD diet and anavar? Usually people drop 5 pounds of water with a CKD diet alone in the first week. Somethings not right there bro.

[dinosaur]

I can't even gain 9 pounds a week on anadrol and test. I need to try some anavar!!

[henz]

I'm actually the handle who posted at olm about my xxx anavar experience. Same results, bloated, high blood pressure, troubles breathing, rapid weight gain, water retention etc ... Was taking 60mgs a day, and was advised to STOP taking it by my rep who since dropped xxx line completely because of recent problems with prodcuts and communications. Along with my anavar i threw out my masteron prop, which was leaving massive bruised/swollen/hot welts whereever i injected. Just my input, not bashing just explaining my experience. I used xxx numerous times in the past with excellent results. Its been 3 weeks since dropping xxx var, switched to xxx at 80mgs a day and since dropped down to my original weight of 205, blood pressure is back to normal, cardio is up and feel great minus the suppressed apetite. Sorry about the low post count, been around for awhile just prefer to lay low these days :) ... Just rememer guys, every lab goes through its up and downs !!!

[cdnsoldier]

^^ Now that's odd. 9 Pounds gain in a week on a CKD diet and anavar? Usually people drop 5 pounds of water with a CKD diet alone in the first week. Somethings not right there bro.


Ohh boy....:greet
I would wager it's not a xxx problem. Rather it's a problem with the lab that supplies xxx it's powder. I understand a few labs are getting burned by these guys.

[Mister T 72]

Would you be willing to post the batch # of your anavar in question??
If not would you be willing to pm me?

[CBB loves Japan]

definately still thr best lab out there, that's why there's so much talk, because they are on top, that said bad batches do occur from time to time and it's mostly all you hear about, good feedback is rarely reported, that said other labs are much smaller and thats why you don't hear about them. I love xxx stuff, their letro is strong as hell, and tren en and t300 rock. Hey has anyone heard from DS, pm me.

[St]

I did amazing on there gear.

[Descimus]

Var batch number.
upp : AN3295
bak : Mar '13

[phatkid77]

I hope like **** batch
AN2571
DEC'12
Is great, since my guy is MIA, hanging on for possible future show

Only other issue with xxx was the tren that needed nuked, and a WHACK of deca that must of froze or something as they had crystal snow flakes in it...lol...I would "think" the above problems would of been fixed BEFORE sending it to reps???? Idk

Phats

[manfreakca]

I'm actually the handle who posted at olm about my xxx anavar experience. Same results, bloated, high blood pressure, troubles breathing, rapid weight gain, water retention etc ... Was taking 60mgs a day, and was advised to STOP taking it by my rep who since dropped xxx line completely because of recent problems with prodcuts and communications. Along with my anavar i threw out my masteron prop, which was leaving massive bruised/swollen/hot welts whereever i injected. Just my input, not bashing just explaining my experience. I used xxx numerous times in the past with excellent results. Its been 3 weeks since dropping xxx var, switched to xxx at 80mgs a day and since dropped down to my original weight of 205, blood pressure is back to normal, cardio is up and feel great minus the suppressed apetite. Sorry about the low post count, been around for awhile just prefer to lay low these days :) ... Just rememer guys, every lab goes through its up and downs !!!

prod prob and comm??why?

[OntariOMuscle101]

I have 6 bottles of xxx Anavar and they all are:
Batch: AN2084
Date: Jun '10

They are definately kicking my a$$ at 100mg/ED

[henz]

here's my var that i had issues with ...

Var
Batch: AN2571
Date: Dec 12

[henz]

i still have about 20 caps id be willing to donate for testing or self testing for any non believers

[Avitoholis]

I have 6 bottles of xxx Anavar and they all are:
Batch: AN2884
Date: Jun '10



you sure they aren't AN2084. That's what I have stashed away, glad to hear your good review though.

[OntariOMuscle101]

you sure they aren't AN2084. That's what I have stashed away, glad to hear your good review though.


Oh my BAD yes they are AN2084 batch, you will definately love the gains if your gonna run the Dose high...

[phatkid77]

Shit!, well Henz, my friend come to think of it ran 2 bottles @60mg a day (I think same batch) loved it...will double check

Phats

[henz]

Shit!, well Henz, my friend come to think of it ran 2 bottles @60mg a day (I think same batch) loved it...will double check

Phats

thats quite possible, from the start i stated im just letting people know my experience with xxx anavar. who knows what could of happenend, labels on wrong bottle, wrong caps in bottles etc.

[srt8]

Batch number usually means nothing, just something they put on the bottle to make look more professional.

[baxitek]

What's the final verdict with xxx?
There is lot of negative feedback...
Is it as GTG as before?

[OntariOMuscle101]

They are GTG...I personally have not had a single problem on the products i have tried...

[blackbird55]

I tried the anavar.It was not anavar.

[gsxr750]

^^ Your other post about xxx says the oxandrolone 'didn't do much'.. what makes you think it wasn't anavar?

I went through a couple bottles of xxx anavar and it did what I expected (great pumps, slight strength gain with very little weight gain, midsection body fat loss and vascularity, muscle hardness)

[Dk]

I tried the anavar.It was not anavar.

there are countless woman using xxx Var, if it wasnt var, this would be known a longgg time ago.

[Drummer]

.....hmmmm

[canadianmuscle0803]

Blahahaha.. Oh man, too funny.

You just made my weekend 100x better.

and you just made my week for digging up an old post and being a dick about it.

[canadianmuscle0803]

.....hmmmm

there is nothing to hmmm yourself about.. if this product was bad i would not touch it with one finger.

[theboss]

and you just made my week for digging up an old post and being a dick about it.

not sure how or why you say Flexy dug up an old post....looked pretty active to me before he posted but whatever...i'm just sayin

[L3]

the cialis i got last year (and still have) is underdosed AT BEST....but i'm LOVING their inj right now....so its a hit and miss, just like anything in life

[CBB loves Japan]

i was told they had problems with cilais awhile ago, new stuff is good to go though.

[Descimus]

they currently have issue with the anavar also for sure, getting mad estrogen bloat and side, pimple oily skin from 40 mg of anavar...

[CBB loves Japan]

did yu ever redcieve hee sides fro other bradhs, seemd vey strage.

[Timbo89]

did yu ever redcieve hee sides fro other bradhs, seemd vey strage.

lol talk about typos.

[theboss]

did yu ever redcieve hee sides fro other bradhs, seemd vey strage.

wow

[manfreakca]

yha getin sides from the test!!getin big strong lookin good horney as hell,dnt know wats wrng lol

[Timbo89]

all these typos are giving me a brain tumor.

[BritishColumbian]

.................

[rob66679]

Interesting how people react when theres talk of a Canadian lab producing less than great product.

[canadianmuscle0803]

this thread needs to get closed, there is nothing productive happening here..

[BAM]

this thread needs to get closed, there is nothing productive happening here..

Oh.. I'd say its very productive.

:popc2

[blackbird55]

I was getting estrogen sides with the anavar as well.

[tiramisu]

While I can neither confirm nor deny this instance so this is not aimed at xxx but more of a message to the UGL's in general. It gives me the heebie jeebies to think of women dosing on some of the other orals when they think they are doing var. Messing w/ primo/var when it might be consumed by women will cause permanent damage.

That's not something anyone should be proud of being responsible for just to make an extra couple of bucks.

[trainharder]

While I can neither confirm nor deny this instance so this is not aimed at xxx but more of a message to the UGL's in general. It gives me the heebie jeebies to think of women dosing on some of the other orals when they think they are doing var. Messing w/ primo/var when it might be consumed by women will cause permanent damage.

That's not something anyone should be proud of being responsible for just to make an extra couple of bucks.

I agree. That's why I feel women should only use HG...they simply have too much at risk to gamble with UGL.

[CBB loves Japan]

Oh.. I'd say its very productive.

:popc2

shocking you'd say that, agenda much anyone.

[dinosaur]

all these typos are giving me a brain tumor.

olo

[canadianmuscle0803]

I was getting estrogen sides with the anavar as well.

bullshit... my girl has been running xxx var off and on for the past 2 yrs and not one has she had anything but hard, lean gains..

a note to all of the above, take every comment against this lab or any lab with a grain of salt..

[Staffie111]

i dont know about the var but the test 300 , deca , dbols and proviron im running all from xxx are gtg IMO.

[bmorlock]

there is nothing to hmmm yourself about.. if this product was bad i would not touch it with one finger.


this is true i have used xxx from the start and have had no complaints ...

[gsxr750]

I've used xxx Anavar (AN2086) xxx Turinabol, xxx Helios (HE2434), xxx Clenbuterol, xxx Cialis and xxx Viagra.

All worked as expected. The only odd thing was as mentioned with the viagra. Some caps seemed super strong and some seemed weak. Probably just wasn't mixed well enough before capping. Same thing with the clen it seemed.

I can't see the people behind xxx risking their name or peoples health suddenly for the sake of 20% more profit. Maybe somethings happening further down the food chain?

For what it's worth.. xxx, *****, xxx, xxx have all been good to me.

[blackbird55]

well maybe the batches are different what I had was definitely not anavar.

[BAM]

List me..

lol

[Descimus]

Just sharing my experience you think i am happy being bloated for summer.. I didnt say they never putted any anavar ever in their caps i am just saying that right now what i am taking is not anavar at all it a very recent batch was it mislabeled or the supplier mixed up the powder... Those thing shouldnt happen..

[Drummer]

there is nothing to hmmm yourself about.. if this product was bad i would not touch it with one finger.

Im not Hmmmmm'ing the product. Im Hmmmm'ing all the new members, of which a few pop on wanting to know about xxx or a rep.

~D~

[rob66679]

Im not Hmmmmm'ing the product. Im Hmmmm'ing all the new members, of which a few pop on wanting to know about xxx or a rep.

~D~

Funny how people don't seem to get as defensive when its a product from a different country......
I wonder why?
:popc2

[tex]

shhh...the police are listening!

[Mister T 72]

ok there has to be something wrong here.. 7 weeks and your not feeling much? im sorry but i have done a shit load of xxx products and none have failed me.. something doesn't seem right here bro.. will you go and get a blood test and show us the results? and i mean a copy of the results not just something you type lol

Appointment has been made with my Doc for a full blood panel.Including testosterone levels...mid cycle .

[Drummer]

Funny how people don't seem to get as defensive when its a product from a different country......
I wonder why?
:popc2

not defensive. just an observation.

[Kronis]

Funny how people don't seem to get as defensive when its a product from a different country......
I wonder why?
:popc2

Gear and beer, don't trash our national products :D

[rob66679]

shhh...the police are listening!

Not that anybody would care anyway.

[baxitek]

Im not Hmmmmm'ing the product. Im Hmmmm'ing all the new members, of which a few pop on wanting to know about xxx or a rep.

~D~

Are you talking about me?

[Mister T 72]

So,on the 23rd I'll be going for the mid-cycle bloodwork.I did find the lab results from late spring of last year prior to my prop/tren a cycle.So I do have a reference point for my test levels.

IF these results come back showing test levels of a natty guy....what is the next course of action?
I have a lot of xxx gear here,as I purchased thinking way ahead and wanted the stuff on-hand.Do I contact my rep and see about returning the remaining gear?which again is a few cycles worth !!
Regardless of the results....either xxx is g2g or they aren't.....I WILL share the lab results here if the mods will allow.Which I sure can't see why they would have a problem with it.

Any input from experienced vets would be greatly appreciated in this

[nisser]

First things first; wait for your bloodwork.

[CBB loves Japan]

my numbers were off the charts, just be honest with your doc about what you're doing and have him check your test levels.

[phatkid77]

Mister-T....have you run cyp before??? I ran 500mg week and noticed NOTHING, but on 300mg xxx enanthate...big difference
I should add it was @las cyp, but my buddy is using only 150mg and loves it...just sayin

Phats

[gustavo77]

I WILL share the lab results here if the mods will allow.Which I sure can't see why they would have a problem with it.


Yes, of course we will allow it. The last thing we want here at CBB is for it to appear like we are biased and or protecting and in turn involved with any labs...this is absolutely not the case. So the only lab related info that will be ever be deleted or censored is that in which endangers the board or it's members.

[Mister T 72]

Yes, of course we will allow it. The last thing we want here at CBB is for it to appear like we are biased and or protecting and in turn involved with any labs...this is absolutely not the case. So the only lab related info that will be ever be deleted or censored is that in which endangers the board or it's members.

Thank you Gus
I didn't think the mods would have a problem with the results.I wanted to get full blood work done while on cycle simply to monitor things,and figure while I'm at it may as well get test levels checked too

[cdnsoldier]

They are giving xxx a trashing here:


I don't know what to think anymore. I go by personal experience and it's a good lab but haven't tried them lately. Seems a lot of boards are pissed at xxx.
Seems more like a personal vendetta tome.

[Kronis]

^^^
I've never heard of that first board before, apparently I'm out of the loop.

[wolverine]

Doesn't look like we are missing much!!

[tex]

cant believe this shit is still going on.........lol

[z83]

shit, don't know what to think

[canadianmuscle0803]

i will also be getting blood work done in august.. by that time i would have been on for just over 2 months so my test levels should be full blown.. im only all xxx products.. i will have a scam of my results and shut people up already.

[champcar99]

that Randysavage is a ****ing crack head this is what he posted

"LOL!!! This is why I was banned on CBB for because I called them out. Waderow and champ99 are two of the fags making it. Gustavo77 is the head. Here they are, I guess they keep the 'good stuff' for themselves assholes"

he is in dreamland...where in the **** does this no mind paranoid idiot get his info from?
now me and waderow are making xxx gear...too ****ing funny...

[canadianmuscle0803]

lol

this bashing is getting out of hand.

[cdnsoldier]

that Randysavage is a ****ing crack head this is what he posted

"LOL!!! This is why I was banned on CBB for because I called them out. Waderow and champ99 are two of the fags making it. Gustavo77 is the head. Here they are, I guess they keep the 'good stuff' for themselves assholes"

he is in dreamland...where in the **** does this no mind paranoid idiot get his info from?
now me and waderow are making xxx gear...too ****ing funny...

So champ where can I get the good stuff? Do I need that ugly wrist tat?
List me. :puff


The SC stuff seems way over the top. The guy is a nut job.

[tex]

they were bashing all canadian ugls on that site......esp xxx but they didnt have anything good to say about any of the other labs either.....

[canadianmuscle0803]

I personally could care less what anyone says.. every UG runs into problems here and there but i know xxx is still a top quality lab.. there have definitely been some issues like pain with some injects like t300 and tren, but there are ways around this.. im using both products right now and cutting it with some masteron i made and its smooth..

[Drummer]

Im surprised MP hasnt pulled this thread completely.

~D~

[canadianmuscle0803]

Im surprised MP hasnt pulled this thread completely.

~D~

x2

[arg]

xxx is fine lol. Yeah if anything is painful xxx always makes it right in the end!

[greekgod]

xxx is fine lol. Yeah if anything is painful xxx always makes it right in the end!

It should never be painful or inconsistent in the first place!

[swole44]

im gonna go a head and say my xxx t400 is underdosed for sure

[CBB loves Japan]

you should get it tested, i'd guarantee you'd get free one's if that's the case.

[canadianmuscle0803]

you should get it tested, i'd guarantee you'd get free one's if that's the case.

its nearly impossible to test gear now a days.. what im going to do is get blood work done mid cycle and show people the shit is real..

im up 20lbs in 2 weeks.. went from 240 to 260..

[blackbird55]

The Anavar I can guarantee is not real.If anybody is getting results they probably have not tried human grade.

[CBB loves Japan]

and i can guarentee it is real.

[CBB loves Japan]

The Anavar I can guarantee is not real.If anybody is getting results they probably have not tried human grade.

why because human grade doesn't give results. I'd stick with the xxx that gives results. Gets my woman ripped. No bloat wwhatsoever in the 10mg's

[Big D]

im gonna go a head and say my xxx t400 is underdosed for sure

yep I can say that also, my first time using xxx I ordered a bunch of that T400.

A friend and I planned on using 1200mg of Test E, for 20 weeks we ended it at 12 just because we saw 0 results,

[canadianmuscle0803]

yep I can say that also, my first time using xxx I ordered a bunch of that T400.

A friend and I planned on using 1200mg of Test E, for 20 weeks we ended it at 12 just because we saw 0 results,

i never had an issue at all.. all my buddies were on it last year and had great results.. but there was a batch that was a bit painful..

[canadianmuscle0803]

ask OntarioMuscle if the anavar is real or not..

if i even suspected for a minute that the anavar wasnt real i would never give it to my wife..

[St]

Ya there t-400 was a disaster,but the t-300 is amazing.

[arg]

im gonna go a head and say my xxx t400 is underdosed for sure

hmmm i loved the t400 back in the day. hasnt been made for awhile now tho.

[canadianmuscle0803]

Ya there t-400 was a disaster,but the t-300 is amazing.

even if it was a disaster which i would have to disagree on.. that t400 is long gone.. t300 has taken over

[greekgod]

its nearly impossible to test gear now a days.. what im going to do is get blood work done mid cycle and show people the shit is real..

im up 20lbs in 2 weeks.. went from 240 to 260..

Even if your blood work proves that your batch is real, it doesn't prove that all the batches are real. I have come to the conclusion that most of what xxx sells is totally real but they also have some bad batches. IMO, inconsistent gear is bad news. I'm not saying that xxx is doing it on purpose but it is happening nonetheless.

[greekgod]

I am finishing up some xxx tren ace and it seems to be very weak. I have used SA tren ace before with amazing results and BRUTAL sides. This time I have got minimal results and barely any sides. On top of this, one of the vials has residue at the top. It looks as if the vial was over baked.

[canadianmuscle0803]

I am finishing up some xxx tren ace and it seems to be very weak. I have used xxx tren ace before with amazing results and BRUTAL sides. This time I have got minimal results and barely any sides. On top of this, one of the vials has residue at the top. It looks as if the vial was over baked.

there were issues with tren ace as well.. but weak? im not sure about that.. im on 100 mg EOD and getting great results with all the sides as usual.

[greekgod]

there were issues with tren ace as well.. but weak? im not sure about that.. im on 100 mg EOD and getting great results with all the sides as usual.

I'm saying weak because I have experienced some fat loss but that is most likely being caused by the Masteron that I am taking with it. I have been taking 50mg/day for 5 weeks and no rapid gains, severe nights sweats, or aggression that I usually get. In a way, I am kind of glad because tren sides are never any fun.

[canadianmuscle0803]

I'm saying weak because I have experienced some fat loss but that is most likely being caused by the Masteron that I am taking with it. I have been taking 50mg/day for 5 weeks and no rapid gains, severe nights sweats, or aggression that I usually get. In a way, I am kind of glad because tren sides are never any fun.

i just had a friend win his weight class at the provincials and all he ran was xxx products and he swears the tren was great.. i havent heard a bad thing about the tren besides the fact that it stings a bit..

[arg]

I got the batch of tren where the powder was not as pure as it usually is and had extra moisture in it causing a residue to form once the oil cooled. I can tell you it was real because i get bad progesterone sides...gyno mainly and had to stop because i didnt have any cabaser on hand. not to mention it made me pour buckets of sweat...it was gross i'll save tren for the pros...masteron is way better anyways! why put yourself through the misery!!!???

[greekgod]

I got the batch of tren where the powder was not as pure as it usually is and had extra moisture in it causing a residue to form once the oil cooled. I can tell you it was real because i get bad progesterone sides...gyno mainly and had to stop because i didnt have any cabaser on hand. not to mention it made me pour buckets of sweat...it was gross i'll save tren for the pros...masteron is way better anyways! why put yourself through the misery!!!???

That explains the residue. I usually pour buckets of sweat too but not this time. Funny you should advise against tren because I had planned to make this my last tren cycle ever because of the severe sides I had in the past. The only reason I wanted to do this cycle was because I heard masteron is godlike when paired with tren. I really have no explanation as to why this tren cycle sucks.

[St]

Even if your blood work proves that your batch is real, it doesn't prove that all the batches are real. I have come to the conclusion that most of what xxx sells is totally real but they also have some bad batches. IMO, inconsistent gear is bad news. I'm not saying that xxx is doing it on purpose but it is happening nonetheless.

I did well on xxx,but it sad to see how many people did bad on the stuff.Maybe its training,or bad diet but i can't put my finger on it.

[CBB loves Japan]

i bet it's more inconsistent people and traiing than gear, it usually is, check out muscle density's pics.

[greekgod]

i bet it's more inconsistent people and traiing than gear, it usually is, check out muscle density's pics.

Inconsistent people and training doesn't explain the excessive or non-existent sides people are getting.

[L3]

i bet it's more inconsistent people and traiing than gear, it usually is, check out muscle density's pics.

not to shit on MD's parade, cause the guy is jacked up for sure... but from his posts i take he's been on for nearly a year and has experimented with a few diff compounds... imo if you dont have awesome gains from a consistent cycle like that you have no business playing with needles

[arg]

not to shit on MD's parade, cause the guy is jacked up for sure... but from his posts i take he's been on for nearly a year and has experimented with a few diff compounds... imo if you dont have awesome gains from a consistent cycle like that you have no business playing with needles

I've been on since january and was off for 8 months before that. I mostly just cruise on test i only recently upped the dose beyond 350mg of test EW... maybe 2 months ago, I'd like to think I've done well on this cycle which half was a little more then a cruise.

[L3]

I'd like to think I've done well on this cycle which half was a little more then a cruise.

bro theres no doubt in my mind you have... plz dont take my earlier post as a personal attack on you...i should have been more through in my post...ive been through the entire the pics section and IMO you look better than 90% of the ppl who posted pics

i was trying to give my opinion on CBBLJ's statement, that its peoples training which is resulting in inconsistent results of their gear... that may be true in some cases, but for him to single YOU out and use YOURhard work to justify the his point of the thread.. i dont agree

ill be posting pics in 3 months so you can have your fun crituquing me then :yeah

ps. my current xxx gear is g2g in my books

[arg]

ahhh ok got it bro! I've just used so many labs and had some thigs that work and some things that really dont do anything and xxx has always been consistant in it being great quality...true there has been one or two stingy batches but thats it since they've been around. All in all definitely a very trust worthy lab IMO. Thanks for clearing everything up tho maybe i didnt read clear enough as well.

[MikeyFXD35]

I saw some good strength gains on the T300 but the pain forced me off it. I can handle a bit of pain but when it lasts for more them a week, effects your sleep and training then its time to try something else.

[canadianmuscle0803]

I saw some good strength gains on the T300 but the pain forced me off it. I can handle a bit of pain but when it lasts for more them a week, effects your sleep and training then its time to try something else.

i have some guys taking that painful test300 right now and they just mix it with another substance like deca or eq etc and its completely fine..

[MikeyFXD35]

i have some guys taking that painful test300 right now and they just mix it with another substance like deca or eq etc and its completely fine..

I might have to try that as I would hate to just throw it out.

[canadianmuscle0803]

I might have to try that as I would hate to just throw it out.

im doing that right now.. just started a new stack with sust, enath and deca.. im mixing the deca with the t300 and its not bad at all.

[canadianmuscle0803]

talk to your rep, you should get a discount.

[MikeyFXD35]

He did exchange to unopened one, so we'll see

[greekgod]

An xxx rep fixed any issues I was having. He sent me a replacement batch and was very apologetic. xxx has excellent customer service and I highly recommend them.

[hommes]

just do it up.

[BAM]

.....................

[tex]

this is making the board look bad imo. i like ths board.....its my online home and i spend way too much time on here and its starting to get shady with shit like this......we need to get back to the way it was before....the gear section has opened a pandoras box of shit......

[deleteduser0002]

this is making the board look bad imo. i like ths board.....its my online home and i spend way too much time on here and its starting to get shady with shit like this......we need to get back to the way it was before....the gear section has opened a pandoras box of shit......

I agree. Some gear talk is fine, as long as its very non specific....things have been getting very foolish as of late IMHO.

[Houstonbc]

I think someone needs to be made an example out with a banning!

[Kronis]

Honestly these threads are ****ing stupid. Hyping a lab is fine in your cycle/contest log and maybe has a place in the gear pics section but it should be kept off the main board. There's way too many people with almost no posts saying how great this or that UGL is.

[canadianmuscle0803]

I think someone needs to be made an example out with a banning!

banning always solves issues.. not

[Houstonbc]

banning always solves issues.. not

my bad, you're right the ****in idiots just come back under a different handle to attract unwanted attention all over the board.

[oster]

IMO xxx is going down hill, I have ran thier cycles in the past and been very happy. But this recent cycle of T300 has been the worst cycle of my life.

Every shot Ive had pain and discomfort, hard spots, fatiuge, and my last shot gave me a horrible infection in my right shoulder.

I am extremely dissapointed with xxx and my rep, and would reccomend people stay away from this lab and find something different!

[St]

Is this a new lab,i never heard of them,please tell me more about there line haha.

[rob66679]

this is making the board look bad imo. i like ths board.....its my online home and i spend way too much time on here and its starting to get shady with shit like this......we need to get back to the way it was before....the gear section has opened a pandoras box of shit......

This is the best board going, and its turning into a battlefield between reps.
There is a lot of guys on here fishing for sources lately, and you don't have to read between the lines very far in threads like this to know whats going on.

This is a very good way to attract unwanted attention, a la ORD.
IMHO......

[cdnsoldier]

This is the best board going, and its turning into a battlefield between reps.
There is a lot of guys on here fishing for sources lately, and you don't have to read between the lines very far in threads like this to know whats going on.

This is a very good way to attract unwanted attention, a la ORD.
IMHO......

Good post.

I agree it seems a few factions are battling it out . Not only on this board. It's spilling all over , on every board I go to. I always thought there wasn't enough product to go around. Guess I'm wrong. They are giving all CDN ugl a bad name.