Completely Safe, fool proof secure mail

[thecut]

Most people here realize that safe-mail, cyber rights, and hush all will comply with LE if asked regardless of if they have a warrrant or not. I don't have a link, but i have seen this before. I saw in my travels online, a secure email that has no backdoor, and is unbreakable, though its costs i belive a one time free of 5-10$, anyone have any information on this, im still looking for where i found this info

[Strateg0s]

You're probably talking about nodns.org, but why you would put trust in a US based email provider who advertises on their site that Hell's Angels are big users of their service is beyond me.

There is no such thing as a completely safe, fool proof secure email. People don't want to do any work learning how to use GPG encryption, nor do they want to do any work learning how to anonymize their connection, nor do they want to be inconvenienced by using internet cafes, nor do they want to change emails, nor do they want to change passwords, nor do they want this, that, and the other thing. Still, they want to shop like getting books from Chapters online ... And then they still wonder why the things that have happened have happened.

[champcar99]

as I believe nothing in the U.S is secure ex..



Section 215 allows the FBI to order any person or entity to turn over "any tangible things," so long as the FBI "specif[ies]" that the order is "for an authorized investigation . . . to protect against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities."
Section 215 vastly expands the FBI's power to spy on ordinary people living in the United States, including United States citizens and permanent residents.
The FBI need not show probable cause, nor even reasonable grounds to believe, that the person whose records it seeks is engaged in criminal activity.
The FBI need not have any suspicion that the subject of the investigation is a foreign power or agent of a foreign power.
The FBI can investigate United States persons based in part on their exercise of First Amendment rights, and it can investigate non-United States persons based solely on their exercise of First Amendment rights.
For example, the FBI could spy on a person because they don't like the books she reads, or because they don't like the web sites she visits. They could spy on her because she wrote a letter to the editor that criticized government policy.
Those served with Section 215 orders are prohibited from disclosing the fact to anyone else. Those who are the subjects of the surveillance are never notified that their privacy has been compromised.
If the government had been keeping track of what books a person had been reading, or what web sites she had been visiting, the person would never know....

[Strateg0s]

That section 215 has nothing to do with anything civilians would ever be concerned with: "international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities." This could never be invoked to pull records in a steroid investigation. Probably something else, but not this, otherwise the case would get tossed out of court, and government prosecutors don't like to bring sure-fire loser cases to court, they almost exclusively bring slam-dunk winner cases to court. That's just how they do.

[champcar99]

dude I don't think you really understand what they can do, I will say that anything anyone does online can be looked at....

"The FBI need not show probable cause, nor even reasonable grounds to believe, that the person whose records it seeks is engaged in criminal activity. "

"For example, the FBI could spy on a person because they don't like the books she reads, or because they don't like the web sites she visits. They could spy on her because she wrote a letter to the editor that criticized government policy. "

anyone they think is involved in criminal activity can be......terrorism or not...

don't forget hush mail handed over information, wasnt that suppose to be secure

[bottleneckblooz]

Ever since 9/11, I don't consider the US a "free" country.

[guest]

what? you guys don't know about the mini cone of silence? it was used extensively by the agency. it's been around for decades and still hasnt been compromised. word is this device is what is allowing osama bin laden to elude US authorities.

[Mr.Freeze]

i knew he had a secret weapon!:D

[Strateg0s]

lol, Get Smart. classic

[champcar99]

what? you guys don't know about the mini cone of silence? it was used extensively by the agency. it's been around for decades and still hasnt been compromised. word is this device is what is allowing osama bin laden to elude US authorities.

wow ...thats so smart why didn't we think of that.....

[Kronis]

so what email system is everybody using now that hush, cyber, safe-mail are trouble?

I'm still on hush, but that's because I'm fictitious and don't exist outside the internet. Would be nice to have a safe email system if I wanted to become a real person.

[thecut]

I did see a supposed unbreakable email service, however, i lost the link :( as far as i know all secure email servers will co operate with LE

[Kronis]

so the ironkey or something like that is pretty much the only option?