Accutane

[Houstonbc]

Hey guys I havent been on here in awhile due to a hectic work schedule and moving to a different city. Anyways my question is have any of you used accutane to get rid of bad back acne due to using gear? I read the old thread about the aveeno soap and scrub ive tried a few things and they just arent working too well. Just wondering if anyone has any info on their own experience usig accutane thanks alot!

[thecut]

ya its works well, dries your skin out though, and is somewhat taxing on your liver.

[St]

I used Aveeno soap for oily skin twice a day and works fine but you it all year round with great result.Accutane need a doctor for blood work to be done go see a doctor and talk it over with them.

[Houstonbc]

thanks guys ive tried that aveeno soap it helps a bit but the deca 300 and sust is turning my back and shoulders into a mess

[St]

You can lower the dose and it will help.

[Houstonbc]

hell no! i think im gonna hit a cycle of accutane from what i hear it gets rid of the acne pretty much forever

[JonnyO]

Stop the Deca bro, thats what I did after it gave me severe cystic acne, I had to do a good run with Accutane and I got rid of it but never used Deca again and I have been fine. I tried a short run of Deca years later and after a couple of weeks I got a few nice heaters and decided it wasnt worth it. Deca never did shit for me anyways. Get some EQ instead.

I've never seen zits like these before either, I honestly squirted the ceiling a couple of times.

[Mr.Freeze]

hell no! i think im gonna hit a cycle of accutane from what i hear it gets rid of the acne pretty much forever

For me too much side effect! just be carefull

[Gib]

Hey bro, im on it right now. For me, it's a necessary evil. There ARE side effects, like dry skin, dry eyes etc. but for me they only lasted a few weeks. It works, though takes about 4-6 weeks for it to kick in, and my doc has me going for blood tests every month to monitor effects on the iver.

Id be a little cautius of mixing it with AAS to be honest. You are already giving the iver a bit of extra work to do, let alone what the pituatary system must be going through during a cycle. I certainly dont think you'd kill yourself mixing the two, just something to think about.

And oh yeah, accutane can be linked to depression, and i cant say im depressed, but i find my motivation to eat right and work out is WAY down currently.

Of course, that could just be my natural laziness ')

SO yeah, short version- it works, but id wait a bit until the cycle ends if possible. How much longer do you have to go? And hey, at least its not beach weather, so a bit of bac-ne isnt th end of the world.

[Houstonbc]

thanks alot for your input guys well im on a cycle that i had 80mls sust and 40ml of deca that i planned on finishing off in one long cycle ive been on for about 8wks. Last time i ran sust i got some bacne from it but ive never ran deca before so i kind of want to stay on it til im done ive got another 25mls or so about another 8 weeks worth. I dont know why but ive done many cycles but have never tried deca possibly the most popular steroid?

[OlderTimer]

I tried taking accutane with a cycle but I'm not so sure i'd do it again. You have to watch all vit-a sources. For me there goes the LEF multi and the cod liver oil. 2 of my mainstay supp's. What I found to be the acne eraser was cytadren. Whatever it blocked (along with all hormone production) just killed acne dead. But i'm getting older so to hell with the experiments of my youth. I'm not THAT much older but been in the iron game for 13yrs. I'll stick to lighter juice if I really want to bother at all.

as for the accutane it did work.

[germanbeast]

thanks guys ive tried that aveeno soap it helps a bit but the deca 300 and sust is turning my back and shoulders into a mess

Susta makes the acne and not Deca. Put the Susta out of your cycle and use only Deca with Testo E or C.
Additional 20mg Accutane e2d and everything will be fine without these bloody sideeffects!

[tony_canuck]

just to give you my 2 cents, i'm only prone to breaking out bad cysts on big cycles, but other than that I've never had a problem. So instead of running a 'true' accutane cycle I've been able to use a small dose once per week (usually only 20mg) during the middle part of the cycle (for a few weeks) and i've been able to be clean from any acne. With that low dose I've never had any bad problems with sides either

[fathead]

Susta makes the acne and not Deca. Put the Susta out of your cycle and use only Deca with Testo E or C.
Additional 20mg Accutane e2d and everything will be fine without these bloody sideeffects!

you really cant make that assumption.

some guys get no sides from test, some none from deca. others (like jonnyo) cant tolerate deca at all even though everything you read says it causes no such sides.

[Mr.Freeze]

you got big chance of having acner with sus. but it could wappend with Deca and Test E and C too!It depend how you react.

[germanbeast]

You get acne from Deca? Nandrolone is the best you can use if you have a problem with acne! It is not androgen as Testo and you will not get a bad skin as you will get it while using a DHT derivate as Winni or Primo.
Sorry but I don't know someone who get acne while cycle with Deca.
Maybe it depends on dirty ulab stuff or on the carrier they use?
But I pretty sure if you use original gear you will not get even 1 pimple.

[ergie]

How's it going GB, where ya been?

[germanbeast]

Hi Fergie check your PM!

[fathead]

You get acne from Deca? Nandrolone is the best you can use if you have a problem with acne! It is not androgen as Testo and you will not get a bad skin as you will get it while using a DHT derivate as Winni or Primo.
Sorry but I don't know someone who get acne while cycle with Deca.
Maybe it depends on dirty ulab stuff or on the carrier they use?
But I pretty sure if you use original gear you will not get even 1 pimple.

just cause you dont know a person who has skin problems with deca doesnt make it factual.
I agree, deca is generally considered to be mild in that regard but myself and a couple other bros i know (jonnyo for one) will agree with me. these are guys who are fine on tren and winny but not on deca.

and no, it has nothing to do with the bathtub gear you mentioned. some people get stomach aches from aspirin and some get the shits from eating wheat... its an individual thing.

[germanbeast]

just cause you dont know a person who has skin problems with deca doesnt make it factual.
I agree, deca is generally considered to be mild in that regard but myself and a couple other bros i know (jonnyo for one) will agree with me. these are guys who are fine on tren and winny but not on deca.

and no, it has nothing to do with the bathtub gear you mentioned. some people get stomach aches from aspirin and some get the shits from eating wheat... its an individual thing.

Bathtube gear? How funny! :D
However I know that every people react different on roids but I also recognize that the most guys have problems with there skin because of the carrier or with ulab stuff. I know guys who get acne from ulab Testo but they have no problems when they use originals.
If you have acne while using Deca please try originals. You will see that you will not get that bad skin as you had it before. I know what I am talking about because I had really bad skin while using ulab stuff which is well known for their good quality but it doesn't work for me. So I tried my next cycle with Testoviron and it was the best cycle I have ever done! Not even 1 pimple! The cycle before with ulab stuff I looked like an abortive gen experiment I had pimples and bubbles filled with fluid pus (yes fluid like water and bubbles in a size of a 50 cent coin) all over my back. Because of that I think I can give a statement that Deca itself cannot be the only problem when you haven't tried to cycle with original gear. Many people react very hard only on the carrier. The carrier is often underestimated in that matter. I know that I cannot use every carrier.

[fathead]

Bathtube gear? How funny! :D
However I know that every people react different on roids but I also recognize that the most guys have problems with there skin because of the carrier or with ulab stuff. I know guys who get acne from ulab Testo but they have no problems when they use originals.
If you have acne while using Deca please try originals. You will see that you will not get that bad skin as you had it before. I know what I am talking about because I had really bad skin while using ulab stuff which is well known for their good quality but it doesn't work for me. So I tried my next cycle with Testoviron and it was the best cycle I have ever done! Not even 1 pimple! The cycle before with ulab stuff I looked like an abortive gen experiment I had pimples and bubbles filled with fluid pus (yes fluid like water and bubbles in a size of a 50 cent coin) all over my back. Because of that I think I can give a statement that Deca itself cannot be the only problem when you haven't tried to cycle with original gear. Many people react very hard only on the carrier. The carrier is often underestimated in that matter. I know that I cannot use every carrier.

deca gives me zits. thats it man.

[Houstonbc]

thanks for allthis help guys i dropped the deca as someone said to do but hasnt seemed to help yet oh well accutane it is i guess. Btw its not excessive acne like german beast talks about thank god its just enough to piss a guy off and my gf isnt all that fond of it either haha

[td1111]

It's best to do Accutane when off cycle. During the PCT after my first cycle, my acne went crazy, so I went to a dermatologist and she put me on 5 months of Accutane. It's a good thing I was doctor supervised, as I needed meds for severe joint pain (celebrex) and special creams for rashes and a fungal problem from the corners of my mouth dry and splitting.

The worst part was suffering severe dry skin and I was one of the 10% or so who get joint pain. Almost 2 years later, I might get 2-3 small zits per month, and very few on cycle. It's also amazing how I never get greasy hair if I miss a shower. Crazy shit alters your DNA, I've heard!

[AlbertaBeef]

I've run isoretinin breifly on cycle and it does dry your skin out and possibly joints. I've always had zits and just didn't want it to get worse. I've run it since and it's basically neutalized all subaceous glans and I don't get the nodule acne as much anymore. I just bought another lot and will wait until later in my cycle to see if I can get rid of it totally. My biggest concern with the drug is it ages the shit out your skin so which is less of the 2 evils, old clear skin or zitty young skin. Maybe I'll try that oil of olay:p

[Houstonbc]

do you need a script for isoretinin

[AlbertaBeef]

Accutane is a brand name for the Isoretinin drug and yes you need a script unless you can find a research company to supply it for your lab animals.

[Houstonbc]

haha thanks alberta beef i dont think ill have much luck with that, next step is to pass a drug test so i can get benefits because i own my own small business any ideas how?

[Houstonbc]

well i finally had enough and got a script from my doc hes got me on 5% benzyl peroxide soap and 1 100mg pill of novo minocycline ed for 3 mths........i hope this works.
If anyone has any info on this stuff like effectiveness and what not i would appreciate the input

[oster]

So I have read many places that its a good idea to keep your Vit A intake low, while you are taking accutane.
My current multi vit has 4000iu per pill it says, so Im guessing its not a good idea to take during a accutane cycle. Do you guys have, or I guess know of any supplements that would be safe to take while on?

[fathead]

well i finally had enough and got a script from my doc hes got me on 5% benzyl peroxide soap and 1 100mg pill of novo minocycline ed for 3 mths........i hope this works.
If anyone has any info on this stuff like effectiveness and what not i would appreciate the input

hey houstonbc.... not to rain on your parade but if you have even moderate acne from gear.... the docs advice probably wont work out for ya so well. Ive been through the gammet a few times now. What will happen is your skin will dry and out get a little but red and a little bit worse, than it will slowly clear up but only slightly. Than youll go back to the doc and they will give you the next thing in line on the acne treatment list.

Docs are trained to start at the least dramatic option and escalate from there, which i appreciate for the most part, but ive found with acne none of that stuff works and it is a pain to put on and live with.

accutane at a low dose works really well!

[Houstonbc]

shiiit i had some high hopes. well hopefully it does something if not back to the doc i go i guess. thanks fathead

[mcgirkz]

i am curently of cycle and just started accutane/clarus at 40mgED. i thought this dose was low as i'm over 100kg's?? it's only my first week, so i'll update my progress. as was previously said, i've tried almost everything for my bacne.. to no avail. hopefully this does the trick.

i was thinking of throwing in a 250mg shot/wk of deca to alleviate any joint issues?? my blood work will be monitored throughout and i take 5g of milk thistle a day.

cuz of the accutane dosage, would i be ok with my multi (megamen) and my omega 3 sup?

[AlbertaBeef]

Take it with fats, do not take on empty stomach. Your dose is good to start, I've heard of guys getting results on 20mg. It's better to start low and ramp up. I wouldn't take deca especially without some test. See how your joints feel, they should be fine I rarely heard of sore joints but can happen just like getting suicidal on the stuff :confused:

[mcgirkz]

Thanks AB.

I will wait it out and see how it reacts on me. ... Ya my doc told me to watch for depression.. this is some heavy shit!

[mcgirkz]

4 weeks in now and 2 weeks at 40mg/day. My skin is very dry, almost reptilian in some areas! My only complaint now, other that I'm not seeing a big difference in acne, is that I'm so tired and lethargic.

My workouts are suffering. Is this related to liver stress? I do have NAC and milk thistle, but not currently taking either.

Also I'm itching to get back on... been off for a while now. I'v been thinking of doin 25mg/day drol and 250mg/wk of test and 250 of deca. I realize the doses are low, but I've had good results in the past. My worry is about liver values and cholesterol. I will be having some blood work done prior to startng to confirm where I'm at.... I'm just agravated by my tiredness. Are all orals the same when it comes to liver toxicity?

[juice555]

I've been on accutane for over a month now. Had cystic acne on back from the Tren. Never happened before - but I never used Tren before either.
The doctor has me try everything first, but silently I was accutane i really wanted because i knew how well it works.
finally i got my wish and was bumped up to 80mg/day since im 200lbs. i was prepared for the dry skin, dry lips, dry eyes that isnt a big deal just use moisturizer alot. wasnt prepared for the slight hair loss, lethargy, and the worst ever was the joint pain. started painful on squats to me not being able to do them anymore. progressed to me not being able to bench heavy anymore either! i felt like i was slow and old on the stuff. the doc throttled me back to 40mg per day, and the pain subsided. It is till not gone. I read afterwards some people's joint pain stays with them for years! @!()*!# temporary joint pain i can deal with...permanent... loss of acne isnt worth it! only time will tell if i get better.
I just want you to be conscious of the side effects. I was the guy who always thought it wont happen to me.

[Houstonbc]

wow think ill steer clear ot it now! i dont need anymore joint problems than i already have

[td1111]

Hey bro. I had massive join pain on 80mg/day Accutane as well(could barely walk), and my dermatologist prescribed me Celebrex, and it was a miracle cure, and I was able to complete the course. I would go back and demand a script for celebrex.

P.S. I think joint pain happens to 10-15% percent of accutane users, if I recall..

[oster]

I've been on accutane for over a month now. Had cystic acne on back from the Tren. Never happened before - but I never used Tren before either.
The doctor has me try everything first, but silently I was accutane i really wanted because i knew how well it works.
finally i got my wish and was bumped up to 80mg/day since im 200lbs. i was prepared for the dry skin, dry lips, dry eyes that isnt a big deal just use moisturizer alot. wasnt prepared for the slight hair loss, lethargy, and the worst ever was the joint pain. started painful on squats to me not being able to do them anymore. progressed to me not being able to bench heavy anymore either! i felt like i was slow and old on the stuff. the doc throttled me back to 40mg per day, and the pain subsided. It is till not gone. I read afterwards some people's joint pain stays with them for years! @!()*!# temporary joint pain i can deal with...permanent... loss of acne isnt worth it! only time will tell if i get better.
I just want you to be conscious of the side effects. I was the guy who always thought it wont happen to me.

isn't 80mg/day a lot?

[outshine]

I always shower and tan after my workouts and make sure that I always wash my gym shirts, keeps me acne free.

[td1111]

isn't 80mg/day a lot?
That's what my dermatologist prescribed for my 5-month treatment. It was extreme, but very effective.

[juice555]

That's what my dermatologist prescribed for my 5-month treatment. It was extreme, but very effective.

Based on my bodyweight I can take 40mg-80mg so says the package literature. i expressed haste in getting rid of this ugliness cause i was afraid of disgusting my girlfriend. maybe in hindsight...

the only thing i didnt try before the accutane the doc recommended was tanning as you guys say. i knew it does work, but didnt think it would make drastic difference which is what i needed. I should have at least tried that too.

i can bench again (just did 117.5s on incline dumbell press :-) ) but i cry like a little schoolgirl when i try to squat over 225.

i can only hope in a few weeks when i take myself off this stuff i get back to normal.
(I am using controtin, glucosimine too with no luck)

[juice555]

yea, thanks for that. i will look into it. i just dont want to take drug after drug - A to combat the side effects of B, C to combat side effects of B, D to..... etc

plus the accutane set me back $230 already. damn
anyways if the pain continues, i might have to choice than to bite the celebrex bullet


Hey bro. I had massive join pain on 80mg/day Accutane as well(could barely walk), and my dermatologist prescribed me Celebrex, and it was a miracle cure, and I was able to complete the course. I would go back and demand a script for celebrex.

P.S. I think joint pain happens to 10-15% percent of accutane users, if I recall..

[td1111]

Celebrex is an NSAID, just like Advil. Very safe to use while you complete the accutane cycle.

[Gib]

I just cut my Accutane cycle a bit short - too much hair loss. I dont know how you guys dealwith that (for those who lose it during cycles)

[juice555]

Is the hair supposed to grow back again? Or is it permanent?

Looks like I'm gonna inquire about celebrex, now i have pain even in my elbows. this damn sh*t.

[mcgirkz]

still goin at 80mg/day. skin is seeing improvement. using lotion on parts that are very dry. seems to work so far. getting more calories to combat the fatigue?

my doc seem to be concerned that my weight would be at or over 100kg to stay at 80mg/day.

[MIAGIONJUS]

my doc put my on this med. called Differin and she said its like a topical accutane. Basically its supposed to work like accutane but w/o the sideffects. Seems to be workin well for me so if your lookin to try somthin new give it a shot.

[juice555]

Celebrex is an NSAID, just like Advil. Very safe to use while you complete the accutane cycle.

thanks TD1111. I got a script for the Celebrex yesterday as I just couldnt 'stand' the knee pain anymore. Took one, and did squats a few hours later. The pain was almost gone so I can do heavier weights again.
Anyways the doc took me off accutane. will start up again in a few weeks at a low dose. Apparently its not the daily dose that is important, its the accumulative dose. Maybe I'[ll try some of the topical meds in the meantime and wont have to subject myself to accutane at that time...

[td1111]

thanks TD1111. I got a script for the Celebrex yesterday as I just couldnt 'stand' the knee pain anymore. Took one, and did squats a few hours later. The pain was almost gone so I can do heavier weights again.
Anyways the doc took me off accutane. will start up again in a few weeks at a low dose. Apparently its not the daily dose that is important, its the accumulative dose. Maybe I'[ll try some of the topical meds in the meantime and wont have to subject myself to accutane at that time...
Good to hear. I was crippled with hip joint pain and could barely walk before I got the celebrex. Within a couple of days I was lifting again no problem, and did the final 3 months or so of accutane with no joint pain.

I chose to do accutane while off steroids for health safety, plus they were monitoring my liver values monthly.

[slick rick]

Celebrex was my miracle drug when i had herniated/pronated discs and sciatica, it was the beginning of my recovery, glad to hear its working for you as well.

[juice555]

thanks guys. i only take it an hour before i go to the gym, and dont bother on the days off. I'd rather not take it unnecessarily. Don't know it this is the proper way, but is working for me... hopefully the joints come back online in a few weeks and i dont have to worry about this freakin problem till im 70

[juice555]

It's best to do Accutane when off cycle. During the PCT after my first cycle, my acne went crazy, so I went to a dermatologist and she put me on 5 months of Accutane. It's a good thing I was doctor supervised, as I needed meds for severe joint pain (celebrex) and special creams for rashes and a fungal problem from the corners of my mouth dry and splitting.

The worst part was suffering severe dry skin and I was one of the 10% or so who get joint pain. Almost 2 years later, I might get 2-3 small zits per month, and very few on cycle. It's also amazing how I never get greasy hair if I miss a shower. Crazy shit alters your DNA, I've heard!

I'm off my Accutane cycle now (only a week) and not felt any better concerning my joints. How long did it take your joints to fully recover. I gotta tell you this has got me Sh*tting bricks. Please tell me you got better..... give me hope

[Mr.Freeze]

about a week:(