"arnold" cycle

[Seth]

Found this on another website. Supposedly a Schwarzenegger cycle. Who the **** designs a cycle like this? Are you even supposed to have a liver left after?

Week 1-5 Primo 600mg EW + DBol 60mg ED
Week 6-10 Primo 800mg EW + DBol 80mg ED
Week 11-14 Primo 1g EW + DBol 100mg ED
Week 15-17 Primo 800mg EW + DBol 80mg ED
Week 18-20 Primo 600mg EW + DBol 60mg ED
BRIDGE
Week 21-26 DBol 30mg ED + Deca 200mg EW
Start Over

For the beginners reading this: DON'T DO IT

[daande]

Why so much primo why no test?

EDIT: Might as well run 1g of test E a week with 750mg of Tren a week.

[theboss]

Why so much primo why no test?

EDIT: Might as well run 1g of test E a week with 750mg of Tren a week.

primo was liquid gold back in the day....but i say bs

[8heyzeus4]

I call B.S. on that. That would assume arnold never came off. Which he definitely did. He looked like an average joe in many of his pictures.

Agreed. In his encyclopedia, specifically the training sections, he looks like he doesn't weigh more the 210lbs and his legs are a joke. I wish I could scan some of the picture because the difference is astounding.

[nitrous]

ya only he will know for sure...

but yes i have seen that and many other variations of that before..

[baza]

BS guaranteed.
I would bet about 10mgs of dbol.

[MikeyFXD35]

I have seen this before at isteroids
http://www.ist***********/steroids/Arnold%20Schwarzenegger%20cycle.html

[GYMBRAT]

Yes, and dianabol was awesome stuff.

I would highly doubt the existence of Trenbolone back then, at least as far as bodybuilding application.

I believe at his time tren a would have been called "Finajet" which used to come out of Europe as a veterinarian drug.

....I still call bs on this cycle though, and test should always be the base of any cycle kids! ;)

[BigWheel]

100mg of CIBA d-bol would leave you totally crippled, pure B.S.

[bigtavi8]

wow using primo like its going out of style and a shit load of dbol...hmm its still amazing even if this was 100% accurate that arnold had such a great physique (for the day and age). Thats crazy that he didnt use test in those days becuase if i dont forget what i read before on here test was first synthesized in the 1950s (56???) maybe it just wasnt proven or mainspread enough for arnold to get a hold of.

[poncho101]

apparently it worked for him lol looks a little ridiculous to me, i came across some of his diets that he used to do, and they were extremely weird as well.

[bigtavi8]

thats interesting what you say about diet he used to do. Any info.. Is it crazy carb depletion or something like that???

[nitrous]

I believe at his time tren a would have been called "Finajet" which used to come out of Europe as a veterinarian drug.

....I still call bs on this cycle though, and test should always be the base of any cycle kids! ;)


yes that is the case in north america.. in europe they tend to be huge fans of primo and i believe lots do primo only for their first cycle even where we say test only

[GYMBRAT]

yes I've heard the same, crazy imo

[nitrous]

Didn't Mike Mentzer claim to 1-1.5g's of Deca in his cycle? With some dbol?

i've talked to some pro's and they fully admitted to cycles they have done and compared to what they said that doesnt even sound like much..

one i talked to told me he has tried a cycle with 10 grams a week.. he doesnt do that and agrees it was stupid and he felt like a pin cushion but still tried it...

when money gets involved that much why wouldnt they try everything to see what works

[tex]

some ppl dont like to use test. i recently did primo/var with just 200mg test e/week ( i had been on for a long time and was scared to drop all the test)........a lot of guys dont ever touch test and run with other, less harsh compounds instead. don't knock it til you try it....it's expensive but I gained 14 solid lbs from the primo and var and I was hitting pr's every time i went to the gym!

ps...i was running 600-700mg/wk of primo and 60-80mg/day of the var.....i will probably be doing a 12 weeker with primo @ 1g/wk.....probably next spring.....primo makes the joints feel nice! Havent deiced which oral to go with it but perhaps dbol......no more than 40mg/day tho

[punkrock]

some ppl dont like to use test. i recently did primo/var with just 200mg test e/week ( i had been on for a long time and was scared to drop all the test)........a lot of guys dont ever touch test and run with other, less harsh compounds instead. don't knock it til you try it....it's expensive but I gained 14 solid lbs from the primo and var and I was hitting pr's every time i went to the gym!

ps...i was running 600-700mg/wk of primo and 60-80mg/day of the var.....i will probably be doing a 12 weeker with primo @ 1g/wk.....probably next spring.....primo makes the joints feel nice! Havent deiced which oral to go with it but perhaps dbol......no more than 40mg/day tho

That's sounds exactly like the cycle I'm looking to do next turn around.
Likely 400mg test e/week and use primo for the main source. Reassuring to hear that it worked for you!!

BTW, i think on that same site it says that
Hugh Jackman takes:
Week Trenbolone Anavar Clenbuterol Winstrol
1 75mgs/day 40mgs/day 40mcg /day 50mgs/day
2 75mgs/day 40mgs/day 40mcg /day 50mgs/day
3 75mgs/day 40mgs/day 40mcg /day 50mgs/day
4 75mgs/day 40mgs/day 40mcg /day 50mgs/day
5 75mgs/day 40mgs/day 40mcg /day 50mgs/day
6 75mgs/day 40mgs/day 40mcg /day 50mgs/day
7 75mgs/day 40mgs/day 40mcg /day 50mgs/day
8 75mgs/day 40mgs/day 40mcg /day 50mgs/day

and Brad Pitt's cycle is:
Week Winstrol Clenbuterol Anavar Arimidex Nolvadex
1 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
2 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
3 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
4 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
5 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
6 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
7 REST - OFF
8 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
9 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
10 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
11 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
12 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
13 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
14 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
15 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
16 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day

I've never heard of anyone taking winny and clen for 16 weeks. That's gotta a bad joke

[L3]

the stackign of and AI with a SERM gave it away

[Seth]

you don't need steroids to have a physique like those 2 fags (love their movies though)

[GYMBRAT]

some ppl dont like to use test. i recently did primo/var with just 200mg test e/week ( i had been on for a long time and was scared to drop all the test)........a lot of guys dont ever touch test and run with other, less harsh compounds instead. don't knock it til you try it....it's expensive but I gained 14 solid lbs from the primo and var and I was hitting pr's every time i went to the gym!

ps...i was running 600-700mg/wk of primo and 60-80mg/day of the var.....i will probably be doing a 12 weeker with primo @ 1g/wk.....probably next spring.....primo makes the joints feel nice! Havent deiced which oral to go with it but perhaps dbol......no more than 40mg/day tho

...to each their own "tex" nobodies knocking it!!!

I am actually thinking now my self on trying a similar cycle as to yours after looking more into it the last day or so.

[punkrock]

you don't need steroids to have a physique like those 2 fags (love their movies though)

No kidding, that's what makes think the arnold cycle is off as well.

[Tiamat]

I thought it was deca and dbol.

[cog]

Well,I am going to go from memory,it could be somewhat off,or just as he and others presented it for public consumption....I believe Arnold was about 225 at 19 or 20 but not cut by any means....drug free...early cycles in America were oral only,I believe Dave Draper had similar comments.The cycles were much shorter.Arnold's heaviest was his last O.By the early 80's Draper had commented that the types of compounds and length of cycles had changed considerably....

[Ritch]

Well,I am going to go from memory,it could be somewhat off,or just as he and others presented it for public consumption....I believe Arnold was about 225 at 19 or 20 but not cut by any means....drug free...early cycles in America were oral only,I believe Dave Draper had similar comments.The cycles were much shorter.Arnold's heaviest was his last O.By the early 80's Draper had commented that the types of compounds and length of cycles had changed considerably....

Say what, arnold drug free at 19? Not a chance! You see those side chest poses of him at 19? I heard he started taking steroids at the age of 13 and have no trouble believing that. I mean c`mon his diet was sub par, he overtrained to shits and still grew. It can only mean one thing, he was on steroids...

[nitrous]

I thought it was deca and dbol.

naw i probably always ran primo with his cycles if he was running deca.. he liked to say it was the champagne of steroids

[cog]

Say what, arnold drug free at 19? Not a chance! You see those side chest poses of him at 19? I heard he started taking steroids at the age of 13 and have no trouble believing that. I mean c`mon his diet was sub par, he overtrained to shits and still grew. It can only mean one thing, he was on steroids...

I don't recall seeing anything in his chest region that indicated gear,Ritch.No gyno.We will never know for sure...how do you know his diet was lousy?Likely the food was better where he lived...he was in the army,(tanker)he would have had to stash any gear pretty good.Maybe cdnsoldier would disagree.Is there any doubt his upper body genetics were great?

[Seth]

He won a Mr Europe at 19 I think. He probably started around 15-17


That being said, here's another joke from the terminator:

1992: "In those days you didn't have to deal with the black market. You could go to your physician and just say, 'Listen, I want to gain some weight, and I want to take something.' Then the physician would say, 'Do it six weeks before competition, then it will be safe.' And that's what you would do. The dosage that was taken then versus taken now is not even 10 percent. It's probably 5 percent."

[Seth]

Took this from his Biography:

Back in the 1950s and 1960s, then, it is not diffi cult to imagine that
bodybuilders were powerfully attracted to these steroids. In the 1960s,
there was nothing illegal about using anabolic steroids, though it was generally
accepted “wisdom” that otherwise healthy adults should not take
them. But there was nothing “normal” about the world of bodybuilding,
and when Marnul introduced the 15-year old Arnold to the steroids that
all the other bodybuilders were using, it was simply par for the course—a
necessary ingredient in the recipe for greatness.

Stories vary on the quantity of steroids Arnold was taking as a young
teenager. One biographer reports that “the injections began almost immediately
after Arnold started training as a body-builder” and that a fellow
bodybuilder claimed that, “Arnold took steroids in doses that terrifi ed
the other bodybuilders.” 40 Another biographer points out that such outof-
control steroid use was unlikely, that it “was hardly his standard
approach to anything involving his chosen sport.” 41 What most of the
stories about Arnold’s early career claim is that by age 15, Arnold was
a regular bodybuilder at Marnul’s gym and a regular user of anabolic
steroids.

[cog]

He won a Mr Europe at 19 I think. He probably started around 15-17


That being said, here's another joke from the terminator:

1992: "In those days you didn't have to deal with the black market. You could go to your physician and just say, 'Listen, I want to gain some weight, and I want to take something.' Then the physician would say, 'Do it six weeks before competition, then it will be safe.' And that's what you would do. The dosage that was taken then versus taken now is not even 10 percent. It's probably 5 percent."

It could be that he started early,but where is the proof?I've never seen any pics that looked unreal.He started working out early and kept at it.In America the standards were raised,there were more competitors(and bucks to be made by various parties) vying for the pinnacle.

[Ritch]

I don't recall seeing anything in his chest region that indicated gear,Ritch.No gyno.We will never know for sure...how do you know his diet was lousy?Likely the food was better where he lived...he was in the army,(tanker)he would have had to stash any gear pretty good.Maybe cdnsoldier would disagree.Is there any doubt his upper body genetics were great?

Take a look in his encyclopedia of what a good diet was to him back then and tell me what you think,lol! And about the side chest, I`m not talking gyno, I`m talking the type of mass you don`t get without drugs. For sure his genetics were great, off gear like the pics of him reveal he is nothing special, but when Arnold was on, he was God like!

[Seth]

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Video from '66. He was born in '47. I think you can agree he doesn't look like a natural 19 yo weightlifter

[cog]

He'd been at it for a few years there.I still don't see anything freaky.Those quotes you posted,those people put their names to it?