just an update on my test/eq cycle 4 weeks in

[C-money]

This is just an update for Jmany and anyone else whos interested..... 4 weeks in and i am stoked... up about 10 pounds, leaner and more vascular... not getting the huge appetite some get from eq, which is ok cause im trying to do a recomp phase/lean bulk. Cals have been around maintenance with a keto style diet with a carb up once a week... yesterday my bro who i train with said my arms look 2-3 inches bigger pumped (illusion) cause it was after a carb up day.. today did delts, and i had the nastiest pump, one of those painfull but amazing pumps, veining out everywhere.. Today was the first time i actually would call my delts cannon balls! Ill keep you guys updated! I wanna add another compound towards the end, still havent decided what yet. its gonna be a 20+ cycle, probably longer :yeah

[HeavyD]

well i never seen your original post....please details

what dose and what compounds? and 20+ wks....should be good

im interested as im going to be running eq for the first time in about 3 months, and am thinking

20wks
teste 900wk
eq 600wk
deca 450wk

just want some feed back....keep it up

[MMASTAR]

Sounds awesome man.. im interested in run a test/eq cycle as well... it would be my first inj cycle. Am i allowed to ask which lab u are using? If not, ignore that. Thanks.

[Ritch]

I`m running test, equi as well. Today I`m starting winny at 50mg daily (oral) Have 7 weeks left of this 20 week ride. It`s been a good cycle and for once my arms didnt`shrink while dieting. Forgot to mention I run clen at 120mcg a day and started an old bottle of Biotest T-2 which is supposed to keep the thyroid gland in check. All the best in your cycle bro!

[MMASTAR]

curious what doses of test and eq are you guys running??

[Ritch]

curious what doses of test and eq are you guys running??

Too much! I originally was going to run just 400mg test and 300mg of equi, but got some equi test which has 250mg test and 200mg equipoise per ml. So ended up doing 2cc`s a week giving me 500mg test and 400mg equi. Then started my 5star stuff and wanted to get more test is as I wasen`t feeling the kick I was looking for. So now I take 800mg test and 300mg of equi a week. I may have enough equi so that I will be able to take 450mg of equi the rest of the cycle (7 weeks) I still feel very calm and never have had any outrages. The equi has not increased my hunger at all.

[wolverine]

Do Tren you will thank me, and you won't sleep for the first week!!

[HeavyD]

eq needs to be run at a minimum of 600mg/wk for atleast 14-16wks to really see what it does

[Ritch]

Do Tren you will thank me, and you won't sleep for the first week!!

Too many sides from what I hear. Proscar won`t help witht he hairloss, then you have to get some caber in case of prolactin issues ($$$) and the night sweats just sound gross. But it sounds like some very powerfull shit!

[wolverine]

eq needs to be run at a minimum of 600mg/wk for atleast 14-16wks to really see what it does

Agreed Heavy D 600 mg's minimum, Add tren soon, you will love it!!!

[Ritch]

eq needs to be run at a minimum of 600mg/wk for atleast 14-16wks to really see what it does

I was using it to see if it helped with bad joints and stuff... I just did the math here and will be able to run it at 600mg for the remaining of my cycle But for sure next cycle, I will run it at 600mg the whole time with 800mg of test the whole time as well. Then I`ll say "Boom, take a look at this hunk of mass..."

[natenator]

eq needs to be run at a minimum of 600mg/wk for atleast 14-16wks to really see what it does
speaking from experience or from what you hear/read?

[HeavyD]

for jionts nothing beats deca.....
but wait before you rag on me about the prolactin sides....yes first off everyone is different

but myself and many others run it at 400-500wk with no negative sides at all, this is why i love deca, results are seen at as low as 400wk, with no problems

[Ritch]

speaking from experience or from what you hear/read?

What`s your take on equi Nate?

[HeavyD]

well 2 posts ago i said that i have never run eq.....but most of what i have learned has come from a actually builder, and trust what he says

[C-money]

thanks bros, im doing 500mg test e/wk, 600mgs of eq/wk, i was thinking to add tren at weeks 8-10... sounds like it would be nuts! Im running 5* products btw.. two thumbs way up

[natenator]

well 2 posts ago i said that i have never run eq.....but most of what i have learned has come from a actually builder, and trust what he says
it helps when dolling out advice that one do so from personal experience or research to back up their claims/opinion.

[natenator]

What`s your take on equi Nate?
I like it better than deca. I break out large on deca and EQ is nice and mild in my opinion. Great for overall performance improvement. Really like it during contest prep.

[wolverine]

guys.... I am doing EQ right now at 600 mg's a week along with 1000 mg's of test e and 50 mg's of Anadrol ED and 50 mg's of Tren ED, when I first started my EQ I could eat a truck I was so hungry but didn't really start to feel it until about 6 weeks in, same with the test e, introduced Tren at week 7 and things really started to excell, I won't touch Deca ever again because I crash way to hard on it and the weiner just won't work at all. Most steroids with long esters like EQ and Test E don't start working fully until week 6-8.

My 2 cents.

[Ritch]

^^^ That`s a solid cycle!

[HeavyD]

it helps when dolling out advice that one do so from personal experience or research to back up their claims/opinion.

no shit ive done research thats what were all doing here......

you know aswell as i do that half of the forums are crap and the other half questionable at times..... i just thought we were all here to share advice/opinions....sorry for trying to help a guy out

[natenator]

no shit ive done research thats what were all doing here......

you know aswell as i do that half of the forums are crap and the other half questionable at times..... i just thought we were all here to share advice/opinions....sorry for trying to help a guy out
the difference is when you give advice people will think you are doing so based on your own personal experience or research that you've come across. 600mg/week for you *might* be overkill so unless you have actually done it you can't provide advice on what you actually think.

It's all good. No need to get defensive about it.

[Big D]

I run 400mg of eq .\ week and i get great results.

[C-money]

I run 400mg of eq .\ week and i get great results.

Every recommendation is 400mgs - 600mgs, im sure 400 would be fine for me, but ive always went with the higher end of the dosing scale lol.
Anybody ever try 600mgs, then go up to 800-900? Any real increase in gains, vascularity?

[theboss]

i did 600mg EQ....with 1G Test & 450mg Tren E.....no problems...

i think the only thing people run into running more EQ is anxiety......but i dont think i got any @ 600mg so i wouldnt mind bumping it up......

[C-money]

i did 600mg EQ....with 1G Test & 450mg Tren E.....no problems...

i think the only thing people run into running more EQ is anxiety......but i dont think i got any @ 600mg so i wouldnt mind bumping it up......

Same here, no anxiety at 600 for me..

[nitrous]

i'm at 500mg test and 600mg eq right now and no anxiety.. no huge hunger.. haven't noticed a huge amount from it to be honest but no complaints either

[GYMBRAT]

Every recommendation is 400mgs - 600mgs, im sure 400 would be fine for me, but ive always went with the higher end of the dosing scale lol.
Anybody ever try 600mgs, then go up to 800-900? Any real increase in gains, vascularity?

I ran test e at a gram along with 800mgs of eq a wk without any neg sides for 16 wks but also without any difference as of gains/vascularity than running it at 750mgs test e, or 600mgs eq.....just my experience though as everyone responds different...:popc2

........got your pct all set up C? and what's your protocol?

[GYMBRAT]

forgot to mention also that I don't go any higher than 750mgs for test etc anymore neither, for me I just never felt nor gained anymore at any higher dose "more is not always better" just more chance for unwanted sides. I think that's why one takes lengthy times off to give your receptors time to clear.....works for me, but once again thats just me! ;)

[C-money]

I ran test e at a gram along with 800mgs of eq a wk without any neg sides for 16 wks but also without any difference as of gains/vascularity than running it at 750mgs test e, or 600mgs eq.....just my experience though as everyone responds different...:popc2

........got your pct all set up C? and what's your protocol?
Thanks for the feedback GB... right now if i stop at around 20 weeks im just gonna go my nolva route for pct no hcg, its always worked fine... if i go longer ill probably add in hcg, especially if i do the plan you sent me... looks kick ass!

[GYMBRAT]

awesome bro, hey always willing to help an old buddy!!...yeah I don't think your pct really needs any tweaking at all, as you've done well with keeping the majority of your gains!!......believe me it shows bro!

[tex]

eq and drol....you better watch your rbc.....your bloods probably thick as molasses by now.....

[Ritch]

i'm at 500mg test and 600mg eq right now and no anxiety.. no huge hunger.. haven't noticed a huge amount from it to be honest but no complaints either

What kind of past cycles have you done to find that? Are you gaining or dieting? I`ve been dieting and so far have kept all my strength, even increased it on leg day. The next 6 weeks though I plan on really going lower in cals and can`t say for sure if I will be able to keep up the same weights.

[nitrous]

What kind of past cycles have you done to find that? Are you gaining or dieting? I`ve been dieting and so far have kept all my strength, even increased it on leg day. The next 6 weeks though I plan on really going lower in cals and can`t say for sure if I will be able to keep up the same weights.

i've dont m1-t, var, tbol, test, eq (not all at once obviously lol) can throw proviron in there too if you count that..

and i am trying to lean bulk right now.. i'm 5'6.. starting weight was 158ish.. current weight is 175ish..

strenght has gone from benching about 305lbs for 1 to 315-320 for 1... so its up a bit but nothing huge

[GYMBRAT]

strength has gone from benching about 305lbs for 1 to 315-320 for 1... so its up a bit but nothing huge

I believe it bro, your the perf build for some monster size numbers on the bench!
...good for you! keep us posted as well..

...sorry C didnt mean to high jack your thread

[C-money]

I believe it bro, your the perf build for some monster size numbers on the bench!
...good for you! keep us posted as well..

...sorry C didnt mean to high jack your thread

Lol no prob big guy!

[ironwill]

wow wolvy, be careful, thats a lot of junk to come off of, if you think you crashed hard on deca, wait for the tren crash, and it IS coming, hard....
Good thread guys....Personally i keep my eq at around the 400ish range and use about 750 of test and im going to throw 30 mgs of dbol in, that cycle should take me to 260-270 and stay hard and get large and strong...tried and true...Personally i dont see the point in doing to many compounds at once...Be careful guys, i hope we are in it for the longgggg run...
Its fun to experiment, so have fun and be safe...
I get a bit nervous when i see posts stating that one needs to do X amnt to see any advantages, etc....then another guy ups the anti....use and abuse, keep it real guys and we will be in the mastrs together...lol, some sooner than others...haha
Im not trying to be responsible pete, its just how i think...

[C-money]

wow wolvy, be careful, thats a lot of junk to come off of, if you think you crashed hard on deca, wait for the tren crash, and it IS coming, hard....
Good thread guys....Personally i keep my eq at around the 400ish range and use about 750 of test and im going to throw 30 mgs of dbol in, that cycle should take me to 260-270 and stay hard and get large and strong...tried and true...Personally i dont see the point in doing to many compounds at once...Be careful guys, i hope we are in it for the longgggg run...
Its fun to experiment, so have fun and be safe...
I get a bit nervous when i see posts stating that one needs to do X amnt to see any advantages, etc....then another guy ups the anti....use and abuse, keep it real guys and we will be in the mastrs together...lol, some sooner than others...haha
Im not trying to be responsible pete, its just how i think...

Ya i havent decided on what to add around week 8-10, dbol 30 - 40mgs(i have had good luck with dbol), tren A at a low dose cause it would be my first time, winny or var(had good luck with var)
What do my cbb bros think?

[GYMBRAT]

you'd seriously LOVE tren bro....no lie mang, it is simply amazing!

[ironwill]

oh for sure tren is amazing......i have a love/hate relationwith it....i hate lovin it..
i looked great.....strength was great, but i turned to a big zit for 3 months, and was a little more aggressive with tren...to say the least....i couldnt do it again because it doesnt agree with my skin, or my temperment, for the job i have...lol...I love var in my cycles, with masteron when low bf...as opposed to tren....

[Jmany]

ahhh wicked stuff cmoney.. only 3 more months till ima be hittin the EQ i cant wait. gonna rock a few bottles of eq, a few bottles of test and i have alot of dbol kickin around thats just askin to be cracked open

[Jmany]

woah i havnt posted in a while, ironwill is mod now?!?! atta boy haha

[C-money]

ahhh wicked stuff cmoney.. only 3 more months till ima be hittin the EQ i cant wait. gonna rock a few bottles of eq, a few bottles of test and i have alot of dbol kickin around thats just askin to be cracked open
Yeeeaa Buddy! ill keep you updated, i think ima do the eq for 20 weeks

[Jmany]

Yeeeaa Buddy! ill keep you updated, i think ima do the eq for 20 weeks

ahhh k yea that sounds like a solid cycle than hopefully all lean gains, i like to be in half decent shape all year thats why im going the Equipose rout instead of the deca way. most likely 16 weeks for me

[C-money]

ya bro i hear ya, i like to stay in decent shape throughtout the year myself.. i hate being on looooooong cut phases, i like it 8- 10 weeks to get ripped up

[Drummer]

Too many sides from what I hear. Proscar won`t help witht he hairloss, then you have to get some caber in case of prolactin issues ($$$) and the night sweats just sound gross. But it sounds like some very powerfull shit!

You can add tren at as little as 200mg a week for a real power booster with little sides.

~D~

[JonnyO]

WHoever said Proscar wont help with hairloss is wrong. I used to thin out quite a bit when using certain drugs but now thru the years I been on it my hair stays the same no matter what Im on or dose and I never get any acne either...Ive said it a million times too if you get acne get Proscar and a good anti it will keet it away.

[Jmany]

ya bro i hear ya, i like to stay in decent shape throughtout the year myself.. i hate being on looooooong cut phases, i like it 8- 10 weeks to get ripped up

yea man pretty much my goal for this offseason is to well obviously put on alot of muscle, but be in good enough shape to only diet for 8 weeks to be shredded for comp. last time took 10 weeks, at only 500mgs test a week.

[ironwill]

You can add tren at as little as 200mg a week for a real power booster with little sides.

~D~...there are still sides at that dose...dont be fooled, thats equal to about a gram of test androgen wise dude...lol.....

10 week diet for me this yr also boys.....should be 230 up there next yr pretty easily....still holding my shape and size after 9 weeks of pct and pcr.....gonna be crazy this yr...im glad you guys are stoked as well...keeps it interesting and exciting on the boards......going to get bloodwork next week, then 260, or 270 by februaury.....

[C-money]

...there are still sides at that dose...dont be fooled, thats equal to about a gram of test androgen wise dude...lol.....

10 week diet for me this yr also boys.....should be 230 up there next yr pretty easily....still holding my shape and size after 9 weeks of pct and pcr.....gonna be crazy this yr...im glad you guys are stoked as well...keeps it interesting and exciting on the boards......going to get bloodwork next week, then 260, or 270 by februaury.....

Nice! You better keep us updated IW! 270! BEASTLY!
:bch

[GYMBRAT]

then 260, or 270 by februaury.....

large and in charge been there 278-285 lbs, have fun whipping your own ass and scratching them itchy spots on yer back, lmao....crazy shit bro and yeah keep us posted IW!

[ironwill]

yup, i was 278 last yr, big lifts, my best that im going to destroy this yr, and not to fat, then i got real sick, for 12 weeks or so, no gym at all, no leaving bed, ended up chubby and bloated 270 pillsbury man, then went straight to contest diet and did ok....this yr, right from a more solid similar weight to contest diet...Ill start a log when going up to keep me motivated...lol...sorry to hijack, i like these threads whilst pcting it up, kinda like dieting reading the cheesecake ads.....lol..keep it going boys, bigger, and better together..

[Drummer]

...there are still sides at that dose...dont be fooled, thats equal to about a gram of test androgen wise dude...lol.....

10 week diet for me this yr also boys.....should be 230 up there next yr pretty easily....still holding my shape and size after 9 weeks of pct and pcr.....gonna be crazy this yr...im glad you guys are stoked as well...keeps it interesting and exciting on the boards......going to get bloodwork next week, then 260, or 270 by februaury.....

I guess you could go lower... i got real sides from tren when i went to 75mg ED, but not really at 200. But im sure someone who is sensitive may get sides at low doses... i just didnt

~D~

[Jmany]

yup, i was 278 last yr, big lifts, my best that im going to destroy this yr, and not to fat, then i got real sick, for 12 weeks or so, no gym at all, no leaving bed, ended up chubby and bloated 270 pillsbury man, then went straight to contest diet and did ok....this yr, right from a more solid similar weight to contest diet...Ill start a log when going up to keep me motivated...lol...sorry to hijack, i like these threads whilst pcting it up, kinda like dieting reading the cheesecake ads.....lol..keep it going boys, bigger, and better together..

hey its all for the better motivation is the key, and you cant inject motivation.

[GYMBRAT]

yup, i was 278 last yr, big lifts, my best that im going to destroy this yr, and not to fat, then i got real sick, for 12 weeks or so, no gym at all, no leaving bed, ended up chubby and bloated 270 pillsbury man, then went straight to contest diet and did ok....this yr, right from a more solid similar weight to contest diet...Ill start a log when going up to keep me motivated...lol...sorry to hijack, i like these threads whilst pcting it up, kinda like dieting reading the cheesecake ads.....lol..keep it going boys, bigger, and better together..

Awesome stuff iw good to see/hear you recovered full bro, yeah the size def allows one to push the "dusty" weights around fo-sho, bigger weights for bigger body!!
....can't weight to start reading your log, as I'm guessing it'll be very similar to what I'm shooting for as well for next season. I know I'll need that extra push and motivation to keep pushing through the dull winter mths etc....

......lmao, tottal hijack huh C, sorry bruh

[C-money]

Well bros, im gonna start adding in more cals.. im gonna try to pack on abit more.. the recomp has been good, and im satisfied but i just know i can get more out of this if i up the cals.. I cant wait for the strength and size increases... its gonna be great, i might be adding in some dbol in the next few weeks... PUMPED!

[GYMBRAT]

Rat On bro great idea imo, ever tried a-bombs? I personally gain like a bull on it (as with
D-bols as well) but not nearly as affective as with the a-bombs man!

[LIVEHARD]

I just added EQ 1200MG Test / 900MG EQ WEEK keep ya posted

[C-money]

Rat On bro great idea imo, ever tried a-bombs? I personally gain like a bull on it (as with
D-bols as well) but not nearly as affective as with the a-bombs man!

Ive never tried a bombs yet GB... i could try this time around... ive had good luck with dbol so far.. how long were you running drol GB?

[C-money]

I just added EQ 1200MG Test / 900MG EQ WEEK keep ya posted

Yaaaaa buddy! keep me posted on this fo sho!

[GYMBRAT]

It was awesome, I run it for 5 wks at the longest for me as the results become kinda stagnant for me at anything longer. I also have great luck with D-bols as well but better luck with the drol fosho.......just a thought good buddy ;)

[C-money]

*update* body weight is up about another 4 pounds... The EQ hunger finally hit me! Today was my first day that i had a cheat day, it was mostly clean foods. Ever since ive been increasing my cals little by little, my hunger is going nuts.. All my lifts are increasing weekly, my body weight is up, way more vascular/ staying around the same bf%... In a few days im gonna add in 5* dbol for 8 weeks... So far im loving the addition of eq, the gains are just getting better and better.. Im gonna try to control my cals somewhat until my weight gain slows, then ill keep upping the cals more and more