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Redz
03-08-2009, 11:06 AM
I was just wondering if anyone has any tips to help prevent the brutal pain and limp that I am getting from shooting 1ml of SAL TNT. My right leg has been sore for almost 4 days and I just shot the other one and am concerned now I will be crippled lol. Any ideas? I had my wife massage the area after todays shot. I cant think of much else. Thanks!

p.s. My injection technique is fine and I have plenty of experience injecting and the only thing that ever caused me pain like this was axio winny.

sierra1
03-08-2009, 11:18 AM
Stay away from those quad shots with painful oils. Next time do glutes or shoulders. Put a heating pad on it for awhile, take a warm bath, take a hot shower, take some extra strength advil.

Redz
03-08-2009, 11:27 AM
I`m mostly concerned with the muscle tightness and pain after the shot not during it though. I did have a shower prior to my shot this time and get it massaged right after. Hopefully that helps.

tums1000
03-08-2009, 12:13 PM
could just be a bad shot man ,i never usually get pain for any gear really but back a while ago when i was on cycle i did a shot with some SA t400 in the left quad ,after the shot no pain woke up the next morning and have never had pain like that b4 my left leg was seriously 3 inches bigger then my other ,went away in about a week .

gicantor
03-08-2009, 12:14 PM
Cut it down with another steroid or cottonseed oil.

JonnyO
03-08-2009, 12:17 PM
It's 450mg per ml what do you expect, I havent met a single person who didnt get painful shots from that brand. I havent had any issues with the other TNT thats 400mg, but I'd use it with something else to cut it with as well.

Redz
03-08-2009, 07:37 PM
Ok Thanks for the replies I`ll have to tough it out or shoot some extra test with it.

baza
03-08-2009, 08:05 PM
8 days here.

Redz
03-08-2009, 09:47 PM
lol ^ Thanks atleast I know what I`m in for where did you shoot?

baza
03-08-2009, 10:08 PM
Glute twice, thigh once, shoulder once.

Redz
03-08-2009, 10:20 PM
which did you find worse?

baza
03-08-2009, 11:08 PM
Glute and thigh. Couple times I was a day away from gonig to DR to get it drained, and next day improved.

theboss
04-08-2009, 09:01 AM
It's 450mg per ml what do you expect, I havent met a single person who didnt get painful shots from that brand. I havent had any issues with the other TNT thats 400mg, but I'd use it with something else to cut it with as well.

you just have JohnnyO.......no pain here.........2cc SAL TNT on Monday....1cc SAL TNT & 1cc Atas Sust on Thursday..........
always warm it....glute & ventroglute shots only... for the last 12 weeks..

Redz
04-08-2009, 09:02 AM
My right quad seems tro be improving now still a bit sore and red but nothing compared to yesterday. Hopefully its clearing up.

theboss
04-08-2009, 09:05 AM
sounds like it.....i hate quad shots...1 in 10 are good for me so i quit...
take an ibuprofen...and throw a heating pad on it....

L3
04-08-2009, 11:17 AM
quads FTL

natenator
04-08-2009, 11:19 AM
I love quad shots. Never have an issue with them.

gicantor
04-08-2009, 01:10 PM
Me too. I can do 2cc's of prop in my quads with no problems.

BritishColumbian
04-08-2009, 08:29 PM
yup yup, every body is different, you just gotta find your sweet spots, just keep trying them all and you will find what works best for you! and I always wait at least 6 days before trying the same spot again. And every Once in a while I get a bad shot (welt) no matter where it is, but that is happening less and less ever since I started injecting really really slow!

Redz
10-08-2009, 06:27 PM
Update..... My left delt and left pec have been red for days and very painful since the 1/2cc injection in each spot. My left leg was feeling 100% so I tried ti again there...... Already feeling the pain. I guess I will just have to live with it. Lesson learned no more high concentration gear in the future but for now I will tough it out.

Redz
12-08-2009, 10:14 AM
I just feel like I should vent and warn anyone thinking of using Sal TNT to stay away from its brutality. I never know if I should be going to the hospital I`m red and swollen with lumps for so many days. I have used many types of UGL gear and was even shooting more gear than I am this time around but this is simply rediculous. I cant even go swiming right now because the chest lump and redness and my shoulder is bad too this stuff is simply not fit for use. I`m sure some of you guys use it somehow but there is no way I can without extreme pain and discomfort. I`m limping around again today with a sore left quad. It has nothing to do with where I inject it is the same reaction anywhere in my body. SAL FTL.....

L3
12-08-2009, 10:22 AM
have you considered getting test e250 and tren e200 and mixing them in the syringe?

Redz
12-08-2009, 10:25 AM
have you considered getting test e250 and tren e200 and mixing them in the syringe?
Tahts what I did in my previous tren cycles with no pain what so ever. Unfortunately all I have currently is this forsaken TNT which I will either have to use or cut the cycle short so I will keep using it as long as humanly possible

theboss
12-08-2009, 10:32 AM
that sucks Redz....but like i said...no problem @ all for me
i guess for some high concentration sucks....maybe i am just lucky

L3
12-08-2009, 10:35 AM
Tahts what I did in my previous tren cycles with no pain what so ever. Unfortunately all I have currently is this forsaken TNT which I will either have to use or cut the cycle short so I will keep using it as long as humanly possible

i would contact your rep and explain the situation, ask for a trade...an unhappy customer is rarely a return customer and if they have any brains they will know that

Redz
12-08-2009, 10:51 AM
guess for some high concentration sucksI did run Test400 with no problems before it is simply the BA level in the gear that is too high atleast thats what I`m thinking is the culprit.

nisser
12-08-2009, 11:13 AM
My advice is to cut it short and not deal with it. I just went through a similar thing with a 12 week test prop/ 8 week tren a cycle. The prop (ANY PROP) crippled me. The worst part is not only are you crippled but the pain actually seems to suck all the energy out of you; workouts were crappy etc. Really didn't get what I was looking out of the cycle and should have stopped early on.

Redz
12-08-2009, 11:48 AM
Well I am a fighter and am having great workouts still and getting stronger and bigger. As bad as the pain is I am going to tough it out for a bit longer and try everything i can think of.

BritishColumbian
12-08-2009, 02:01 PM
wow that sucks bro! have you tried heating it up? I never have but have heard good things about this, I dunno.

vegan_hunter
12-08-2009, 02:05 PM
I've seen the same results with A**** TNT from batch to batch. One buddy couldn't walk for days, while another who used a batch with the older labels was fine. Some people can't handle the high dosed products out there today. Myself, I just stay to the 200-250mg/ml dosed range,and never have any problems with pain. I still don't understand guys who think its normal to be crippled for days from an injection..... they SHOULD be painless.

Redz
13-08-2009, 10:50 PM
Ok so yet again anotehr update, left quad stills ore from Mondays shot. I took a shot in the right quad today this time adding .5cc of human grade test E to the shot. The shot was less painful going in so lets see how it is tomorrow, thanks for the help and sugestions guys.

Houstonbc
13-08-2009, 11:11 PM
have you tried baking it yet bro?

Big D
13-08-2009, 11:24 PM
have you tried baking it yet bro?

x2 just about to say that,

bake it,

then heat it before injecting ?

St
13-08-2009, 11:38 PM
x2 just about to say that,

bake it,

then heat it before injecting ?

X3.

Redz
14-08-2009, 08:21 AM
Care to elaborate on how to bake the gear?

INked
14-08-2009, 10:14 AM
All I use is TNT with either Dbol (winter) and Winstrol (summer) for 5 yrs now.Tuffin up!:wtf

Monka
14-08-2009, 10:20 AM
Whats painful for one is sometimes nada for others, ive had shots that gave a fever,/big red and swolen for weeks.. and EXACT same bottle my friend used with not even a little pain, no red or swelling, like nothing. Some just can't handle the BA. or the powders itself, or MG is just to much for you..i think you wont feel to much pain, if you added and EQ or deca.. to mix and try 50/50 or if you have any other gear thats not painful,

INked
14-08-2009, 10:24 AM
Whats painful for one is sometimes nada for others, ive had shots that gave a fever,/big red and swolen for weeks.. and EXACT same bottle my friend used with not even a little pain, no red or swelling, like nothing. Some just can't handle the BA. or the powders itself, or MG is just to much for you..i think you wont feel to much pain, if you added and EQ or deca.. to mix and try 50/50 or if you have any other gear thats not painful,Good point.

Mr Ontario
14-08-2009, 10:28 AM
Ya..he mentioned he added .5cc of Human grade to the shot.....as for baking it I assume they mean putting in the microwave for 20 seconds to warm it up a little to help it dissipate/absorb quicker in the muscle. Having to do anything else then is not worth using it as far as I'm concerned. I'm not much into pain :)


Whats painful for one is sometimes nada for others, ive had shots that gave a fever,/big red and swolen for weeks.. and EXACT same bottle my friend used with not even a little pain, no red or swelling, like nothing. Some just can't handle the BA. or the powders itself, or MG is just to much for you..i think you wont feel to much pain, if you added and EQ or deca.. to mix and try 50/50 or if you have any other gear thats not painful,

Redz
14-08-2009, 10:48 AM
All I use is TNT with either Dbol (winter) and Winstrol (summer) for 5 yrs now.Tuffin up!
While it may be fine for you I can say its not normal to barely be able to walk and have masive red spots infact my entire leg front and sides on the left is red and swollen masively still from a Monday shot. This has nothing to do with not being "tough"

My right leg isnt too bad so far from the mixed shot from last night. Looks like it may be the solution even if I did have to up my test dose to 750mg/week

theboss
14-08-2009, 10:51 AM
even if I did have to up my test dose to 750mg/week


you say that like its a bad thing ?!?!?!?! :ne

Redz
14-08-2009, 11:02 AM
^HA yeah I know its not even that bad I have ran 800 before. Though my right leg isnt perfect mixing in the extra test is looking promising so far.

INked
14-08-2009, 04:24 PM
While it may be fine for you I can say its not normal to barely be able to walk and have masive red spots infact my entire leg front and sides on the left is red and swollen masively still from a Monday shot. This has nothing to do with not being "tough"

My right leg isnt too bad so far from the mixed shot from last night. Looks like it may be the solution even if I did have to up my test dose to 750mg/week

Change compounds to something more user friendly.I never said TNT was user friendly it's an aquired taste,one has to weigh the pro's and con's risk to benifit ratio and go from there.

Redz
14-08-2009, 05:04 PM
Change compounds to something more user friendly.I never said TNT was user friendly it's an aquired taste,one has to weigh the pro's and con's risk to benifit ratio and go from there. I have no idea what you are talking about I have never had problems with Test and Tren before this.

theboss
15-08-2009, 08:12 AM
I have no idea what you are talking about I have never had problems with Test and Tren before this.

what INked means is the blend TNT is not for everyone because of the high concentration....i think you said before Redz that you were mixing Test E & Tren E yourself...that would mean more oil....hence less pain.

Redz
15-08-2009, 09:32 AM
I know for a fact it has nothing to do with high concentration. I have used T400 with no problems in the past. The reaction I had been having is the same as the one many described when axio products had high ba levels some time ago. I saw pictures of others who had shot the high ba gear and I'm sure this is the same problem. Some people can take high ba levels while many can`t. For myself I believe shooting with 1/2cc human grade Test E has made it tolerable which is good enough for me. I just can`t wait for my left leg to go back to normal from Mondays shot.

nisser
15-08-2009, 11:00 AM
I know for a fact it has nothing to do with high concentration. I have used T400 with no problems in the past. The reaction I had been having is the same as the one many described when axio products had high ba levels some time ago. I saw pictures of others who had shot the high ba gear and I'm sure this is the same problem. Some people can take high ba levels while many can`t. For myself I believe shooting with 1/2cc human grade Test E has made it tolerable which is good enough for me. I just can`t wait for my left leg to go back to normal from Mondays shot.

I can almost guarantee that your HG test E has the same % of BA in it and thus you aren't changing anything by cutting with it. It's whatever else is in the test or the tren that's causing you trouble.

Redz
17-08-2009, 02:50 PM
I can almost guarantee that your HG test E has the same % of BA in it and thus you aren't changing anything by cutting with it. It's whatever else is in the test or the tren that's causing you trouble.
Strange that mixing it did help though so I`m not 100% sure that is true. If there was something "else" in the juice what would it be?

L3
17-08-2009, 02:55 PM
^^ imputrities from the raw powdah

nisser
17-08-2009, 03:54 PM
exactly..

Redz
18-08-2009, 11:02 AM
Well if thats the case I can pretty much say for sure I will never touch SAL again after this cycle not that I didnt already feel that way lol. I am making great gains but the crippling part isnt too cool lol. I will just go with the stuff I know is good next time. Lesson learned.

baza
18-08-2009, 11:13 AM
I can almost guarantee that your HG test E has the same % of BA in it and thus you aren't changing anything by cutting with it. It's whatever else is in the test or the tren that's causing you trouble.

Though I have never home brewed, I would think that the pain is caused by high BA content from the UG lab, and cutting it would help. However, I've taken HG products, sust and primo (years ago when it was real), and got just as much pain as from SAL and majority of other brands.

thesizzler
18-08-2009, 12:50 PM
I have no advice but TNT is awesome stuff. Very painful to shoot.