Next bulker - pls critique

[Seth]

1-16 Test-e 500mg
1-14 Eq 500mg
1-4 Dbol 50mg
16-18 Dbol 25mg

I'll be running aromasin for the whole cycle and will be doing some HCG at the end of the cycle along with a pretty standard aromasin/nolva pct

Please critique

[gicantor]

I like it.

[daande]

I am doing a "Lean bulker" this winter as I hate being fat lol...This is what I am running very similar:

1-12: 500mg Test-e
1-12: 400mg EQ
4-8: Dbol 20mg ED

PCT: hcg, aromasin, and nolva.

[Seth]

^ I was actually debating whether I should take the dbol 1-4 or 4-7. I guess it'll be decided last minute depending on how impatient I am at that point. Also I was thinking about bringing it down to ~40mgs ED, but that'd be such a pain to cut caps in halves... (25mgs)

[daande]

^ I was actually debating whether I should take the dbol 1-4 or 4-7. I guess it'll be decided last minute depending on how impatient I am at that point.

I know man, I am still shuffling it around I was going to "kickstart" and do it 1-4 but who knows...Alot of people on here said to do it 4-8.

EDIT: oh I have 5mg BD's from like 4 years ago hahaha I hope they still somewhat work. I got them and never did them.

[nitrous]

you said you will be running aromasin the whole cycle but the extra estrogen that you end up getting from aromatization would aid the muscle building... i'd recommend only taking the aromasin if issues begin to pop up

[ironwill]

Honestly guys, if you think about test enanthate, you are just getting the good stuff from enanth when you are stopping the dbol....Week 4...I prefer starting dbol @ week 4-6..The test is in full swing, and the addition of dbol will escalate the effects even more when starting dbol.....When im running dbol, i keep my test at a decent low amnt, then when im stopping dbol, i up my test a bit more, or eq or whatever to compensate the drop in dbol...
i ave found this works well, real well.....Be patient, i even taper up, as opposed to front load......:)

[JonnyO]

why dbol weeks 16 to 18?

[ironwill]

you said you will be running aromasin the whole cycle but the extra estrogen that you end up getting from aromatization would aid the muscle building... i'd recommend only taking the aromasin if issues begin to pop up
also a good practice imo.....

[Seth]

why dbol weeks 16 to 18?

So I can be anabolic until the day I stop the cycle. Instead of having my hormones tapering down until PCT, I just stop all at once. Mainly because I use the last weeks to cut down on fat a bit, so I don't lose my muscle during that time. I know it might bloat me a little, but that's just temporary, I don't really mind that. I would normally do it with var, but budget obliges...


Edit: Also for the a-sin, I'm very sensitive to estrogen, so I err on the cautious side

[daande]

I am doing a "Lean bulker" this winter as I hate being fat lol...This is what I am running very similar:

1-12: 500mg Test-e
1-12: 400mg EQ
4-8: Dbol 20mg ED

PCT: hcg, aromasin, and nolva.

Sorry to semi hijack but most people recommend switching compounds 6 weeks in. Would there be a benefit in doing so in this cycle? Also, is the benefit really worth it? Note: My Test-e is mixed with EQ ie 250mg test-e and 200mg eq per 1mL.

[Seth]

with the length of the eq ester (undecylenate) it wouldn't make sense, plus most people who've used it recommend at least 14 weeks for that same reason (or so I've read).

[ironwill]

Sorry to semi hijack but most people recommend switching compounds 6 weeks in. Would there be a benefit in doing so in this cycle? Also, is the benefit really worth it? Note: My Test-e is mixed with EQ ie 250mg test-e and 200mg eq per 1mL.
i always wonder why that is recommended??? Do you have any idea of what the reasoning is for switching compounds??

[daande]

i always wonder why that is recommended??? Do you have any idea of what the reasoning is for switching compounds??

I think its because you get used to the compounds I don't really know the reasoning I thought test was test.

[Seth]

My theory is that people get used to the feeling of the compound after 5-6 weeks of using, so they "think" it works less. Changing compound gives them a new kick so they feel it works more. I think it's more psychological than anything else. I don't buy into it

Maybe someone has a more scientific explanation?

[Praetorian]

So I can be anabolic until the day I stop the cycle. Instead of having my hormones tapering down until PCT, I just stop all at once. Mainly because I use the last weeks to cut down on fat a bit, so I don't lose my muscle during that time. I know it might bloat me a little, but that's just temporary, I don't really mind that. I would normally do it with var, but budget obliges...


Edit: Also for the a-sin, I'm very sensitive to estrogen, so I err on the cautious side

Using the dbol at the end makes no sense whatsoever...completely unecessary. Aromasin as Ironwill said ONLY if needed!
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[Praetorian]

My theory is that people get used to the feeling of the compound after 5-6 weeks of using, so they "think" it works less. Changing compound gives them a new kick so they feel it works more. I think it's more psychological than anything else. I don't buy into it

Maybe someone has a more scientific explanation?

Attenuation is not psychological its physiological...it happens with almost all drugs.
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[Seth]

thanks for the input guys. The help is always appreciated