zoloft and aas!!!

[marcman77]

i just started a cycle.....just wondering im also on zoloft for antidepressant, but im slowing weening myslelf off the zoloft, do u know if being on antidepressants and taking juice will the zoloft hinder my gains...

[marcman77]

anyone?

[Drummer]

I always cringe when i see someone who is in need of anti depressants going on cycle. There are phsycological side effects you may not be ready for if you are depressed. Just my 2 cents.

I dont know if anyone here is qualified to tell you of any harmful drug interactions. You may come across someone who has taken both who could give you feedback.

D~

[theboss]

i wouldnt be mixing them if it was me....i would be worried about mood swings...i assume the zoloft is a script the dr. prescribed and there must be good reason for it.

[marcman77]

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[RagingRandy]

I used to suffer from anxiety, and HRT cleared that up. Well until you read my most recent post. Anyway, low test can cause issues that doctors usually prescribe anti-depressants for. Get your Test levels checked at a proper clinic. This may be the root cause and you will be able to ditch the other meds.

[Mr Ontario]

If you have some quality test e, cant see you needing Zoloft :)

[hulkster]

^ he's right, although, what about post cycle deppression? its bad enough without being prone to it already..i'd say wait untill youve totally come off of the zoloft then use it once your off the juice. im not a doc so dont take anything i say as the right thing to do, ask your doctor because there required to help you by law.

[marcman77]

i cut my dosage in half ofthe zoloft and gonna ween myself off it this week

[bigtavi8]

I am not trying to be a preacher here but i would not do it. AAS does not mix with antidepressents or most medication for mental problems ( anxiety, bipolar, schiz, etc). There has not been much reserach available that i can find but from personal expierence and doctors and pysciatrists experience aas and medication for such problems will ALTER your brain chemistry and cause a potentially lethal side effects. Not to mention depression from PCt may be too much stress to handle if someone is already depressed to begin with. This is just my experience and i am not trying to say this is 100% for everyone but IMHO i wouldnt try to use AAS on mental health medication.

[marcman77]

does anybody else agree with bigtavi about the lethal side effect.....i am wening myself off of it .....MR. O ur insight please

[bigtavi8]

I am very interested in this topic and did some research for you. I had a hard time finding any that is credible. A couple of chirpers on other boards but they arent doctors. I would never put it out there that there could be lethal side effects unless i was totally convinced by a panel of doctors and psyciatrists. My psyciatrist is a Dr in the field out of University of Michigan and is very credible. I did not believe her either when she told me that and i called her out on it. I said doctors just dont like aas and they are trying to keep people away because they have the wrong impression of it. She proved to me that taking SSRI or benzodipine medication and aas is lethal becuase they act on the same receptors and the aas will block the medication from taking its full effect. They say this is what may have happened to Chris Benoit although i dont know if that is proof at all. I hope i dont get flamed by everyone for saying this but marcman deserves to know that it could possibly be dangerous.

***also if your depression is mild to severe (crying often, withdrawl, frustration, racing thoguhts, anxiety, sleep prob) or has been in the past then i would not ween off id stay on. Getting off medication is the #1 reason ppl slip into there old ways and becoming seriosuly depressed to the point of hospitalization. If its not to severe then ween off but think about it your mental health is much more important then your physique. And not to mention PCT will be very very painful.

[Drummer]

I would wait until i am TOTALLY clear an rebalanced after completely stopping Zoloft. In the meantime, you can bury yourself in learning about proper eating, training, and aas usage. There is never a limit to what you can learn, and when your ready, you may be better armed and motivated to do it right. If its your first time, remember, 500mg test e a week for 12 weeks is the best starter cycle IMO.

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EDIT : i agree with the above post. If your problem that required zoloft is severe, you should not come off without the docs supervision and recommendation.

[marcman77]

bump

[nisser]

What are you looking for? They're giving you the answer you don't want to hear. So just take it and leave.

[Drummer]

What are you looking for? They're giving you the answer you don't want to hear. So just take it and leave.

I think he may want to hear "its ok, go ahead". I dont think anyone here is foolish enough to tell him to do that given that we are not qualified to do so.


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[Mr Ontario]

Do search here and other boards,,,,there is allot of people using gear and antidepressants and they are still fine :)

[rob66679]

Do search here and other boards,,,,there is allot of people using gear and antidepressants and they are still fine :)

This guys weaning himself off the Anti Depressants though.
I don't know if thats a good idea at all, and if your already prone to depression when you come off the aas it won't be good.

I know a few people that are bi polar, and when they decide to stop taking their meds without their doctors knowlage is when bad things happen.

Just my 2 cents, but I wouldn't do it. Taking a big chance.

[Mister T 72]

Personally...I don't agree with the decision to "ween urself off in a week".
It takes time to come of of anti-depressants!! It's a slow and gradual process. And that's IF you can successfully come off of them.
Taking AAS completely out of the picture for arguements sake....2 months after coming off of anti-depressants you may VERY well wish you hadn't.Then it will take time once again to get the Zoloft back into your system and for it to work and have you feeling better again.
Give it some very serious thought bud!!

send me a pm if u like
T

[marcman77]

im barely on the zoloft100mg as it is i take 1 like every 4 days , and i feel fine not depressed at all...., so now im gona take 50mg and do that every couple days.....

[Mr Ontario]

for fack sakes here is tonns of threads on this board,..talking about it from experienced users...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=213128&highlight=zoloft

[bigdog81]

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[LIVEHARD]

does anybody else agree with bigtavi about the lethal side effect.....i am wening myself off of it .....MR. O ur insight please

My Input ask a Doctor who understands the affects of head med's

Also add the AAS part and he can do some research for you.

All conversations are confidential unless they think you may harm yourself or others.

in this case it's still a hypothetical question.

One I'm sure a medical professional would be happy to help you with.

[tex]

alrighty folks.

1st off. Weening yourself off of a psyche med that was prescribed by a doctor is never a good idea. You are on zoloft for a reason. NEVER ween yourself off without doctor supervision....you are asking for trouble. 2ndly....weening off of zoloft will take longer than a few weeks and I'd venture to say you might want to drag it out as long as possible....ever heard of a brain tremor?? Its a nasty feeling like you stuck your head inside of a bell and some asshole started ringing it......you feel all numb in the head....thats what a quick ween will give you......3rd.....what happens when you come off?!? I felt like crying at work tonight.....then I felt like stabbing someone in the face with a fork....then I was all happy and good.....I am not depressed at all and this is how my emo rollercoaster of a pct is going.....not to scare you bro....but be careful with these sorts of things.....

ps...i think they recommend 1 month to come off...depending on your dose of course....

pps...i am not a doctor.....talk to yours about coming off before you do anything.....

ppps?! test and zoloft should be ok....but i am still not a doctor

[bigtavi8]

2ndly....weening off of zoloft will take longer than a few weeks and I'd venture to say you might want to drag it out as long as possible....ever heard of a brain tremor?? Its a nasty feeling like you stuck your head inside of a bell and some asshole started ringing it......you feel all numb in the head....thats what a quick ween will give you......

Your right id say 6 weeks and your not kidding when you say brain tremors from getting off medication is crippling. It can make you feel so dam sick you wont leave your bed. That pain is worse than a migraine times ten and can be quite frightning at the time.

[Mr Ontario]

Fack you might as well get admitted yourself in a mental ward to be on the safe side, by the sounds of everyone responses lol

[marcman77]

Mr. O i hear u..........**** im on my way there..lol.....fawk

[oster]

If it was me I would stay on the zoloft, and go ahead with the cycle.

[marcman77]

thanks oster im gonna run zoloft at 50mg a day alog with my cycle

[Mr Ontario]

ya keep us posted and let us know if you feel any suicidal tendencies. :)


thanks oster im gonna run zoloft at 50mg a day alog with my cycle

[marcman77]

no then whqat will the girls do without me

[LIVEHARD]

thanks oster I'm gonna run zoloft at 50mg a day along with my cycle

Look why don't you talk to a doctor ???

Your were given HEAD MED'S for a reason

yes hormone supplementation can affect your moods and mental state.

never make jokes about a ward ( mental ward ) Remember at any time a doctor could form 1 or 2 your ass

Form 1 = 72 hours
Form 2 = 2 weeks +

GO TALK TO A DOC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tex]

not trying to scare you but ssri's are no joke. these drugs are over-prescribed by doctors and they are horrible for you. I cringe when I think about how the chemical industry have wrecked the planet and the ppl living on it......the most powerful lobby in the world.....

[Rrrrolla]

I was on an ssri for a few years a long time ago, before ever starting any kind of aas. I quit cold turkey, it took me about a year to recover to the point where I didnt have to carry valium just in case, and about 3 years before I felt "normal".

Consider that coming off test for a guy with mental issues can be cripling. I'm speaking from experience. Just know that it is better to NEVER come off then to be sitting at the edge of a bed considering suicide. I have not been off juice for over 4 years now btw because I am petrified of the emotional issues associated with it.

Thats my story, not saying it should be yours, just letting you know what you might be getting yourself into! Be careful bro. The mind is a fragile thing.

[waderow]

There is risk associated with AAS use. In these forums we often minimize the risks, and merely brush them off as media hype, and ignorance.

Physically, we affect our natural hormone balances, and often damage them.

Mentally, we become dependent on the steroids, as they make us feel god like, and when off, we feel depressed, deflated, weak, small, and lazy. Lets not even discuss sexual function (or lack of). These feelings can also be attributed to physical effects.

The decision to take AAS is a big one, and if you are already having depression issues, you need to really be sure you're going to be able to handle the changes you are about to put your body through. You need to ask yourself "why am i taking them in the first place?" IS it because of the depression, and a bid to become a different person? Remember that steroids are not a magic pill. It takes years of dedication on steroids to become "huge". Years.

My point I suppose is.... that AAS use can challenge your emotional state. ****, I have done silly shit that is very unlike me on various hormones. Been affected in an exaggerated way over minor things. Forced a girl or two away due to tren.

Whatever your choices are, you are among friends, but prepare yourself mentally for it if you do.

[nisser]

I totally agree with waderow. It can really mess you up. I'm in PCT right now after a pretty light cycle; my balls are huge but I'm still getting majorly messed by the clomid/nolva. Just feel crappy in general...not very horny etc.

[rob66679]

Thats almost worthy of being a sticky Wade.

Very well said.

[oster]

There is risk associated with AAS use. In these forums we often minimize the risks, and merely brush them off as media hype, and ignorance.

Physically, we affect our natural hormone balances, and often damage them.

Mentally, we become dependent on the steroids, as they make us feel god like, and when off, we feel depressed, deflated, weak, small, and lazy. Lets not even discuss sexual function (or lack of). These feelings can also be attributed to physical effects.

The decision to take AAS is a big one, and if you are already having depression issues, you need to really be sure you're going to be able to handle the changes you are about to put your body through. You need to ask yourself "why am i taking them in the first place?" IS it because of the depression, and a bid to become a different person? Remember that steroids are not a magic pill. It takes years of dedication on steroids to become "huge". Years.

My point I suppose is.... that AAS use can challenge your emotional state. ****, I have done silly shit that is very unlike me on various hormones. Been affected in an exaggerated way over minor things. Forced a girl or two away due to tren.

Whatever your choices are, you are among friends, but prepare yourself mentally for it if you do.


Good post, what I was going to say but I find people like this have already made up their mind. And in that case his best option would be to stay on the zoloft.

But I agree if you are already on meds for depression, you should stay away from AAS.

[Drummer]

There is risk associated with AAS use. In these forums we often minimize the risks, and merely brush them off as media hype, and ignorance.

Physically, we affect our natural hormone balances, and often damage them.

Mentally, we become dependent on the steroids, as they make us feel god like, and when off, we feel depressed, deflated, weak, small, and lazy. Lets not even discuss sexual function (or lack of). These feelings can also be attributed to physical effects.

The decision to take AAS is a big one, and if you are already having depression issues, you need to really be sure you're going to be able to handle the changes you are about to put your body through. You need to ask yourself "why am i taking them in the first place?" IS it because of the depression, and a bid to become a different person? Remember that steroids are not a magic pill. It takes years of dedication on steroids to become "huge". Years.

My point I suppose is.... that AAS use can challenge your emotional state. ****, I have done silly shit that is very unlike me on various hormones. Been affected in an exaggerated way over minor things. Forced a girl or two away due to tren.

Whatever your choices are, you are among friends, but prepare yourself mentally for it if you do.

x2

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