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kloan
31-07-2009, 04:19 AM
I'd like my 2nd cycle to be more about cutting than bulking. My first cycle put on fair amount of weight, but a lot of water (around 10lbs).. even with Adex (if it was even real? who knows..)

I've got 2 bottles of Test Enth, 250mg/ml. I was planning on ordering more (TNT) while I was back in Canada for 3 weeks, but for some reason I kept putting it off til the point where I ran out of time.

So anyway, I'm wondering what I can do with these two bottles that would be beneficial in some way.

I also want to do an oral, either Tbol or Var, along with the Test E.

I am considering gambling again and ordering overseas some Tren E. So if I had that, I would combine it with the Test.

Would 125mg Test and 100mg Tren twice weekly do anything for me? I don't want to just conserve muscle, I'd like to gain as well, if possible? I know in order to lose weight, one has to be in a caloric deficit, but I see a lot of people say they even gained muscle while dieting, when they were on Test and Tren, or whatever.

Since I only have the two bottles, would 8 weeks be enough time to lose 4-5% BF (if I did 500mg/week)? Or would I be better off waiting until I can get everything I need for a longer cycle?

Lookin for suggestions...

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St
31-07-2009, 07:55 AM
All 3 grear are amazing,Var big dollars,t-bol better bang for your dollars,Tren is amazing seen big changes in many people.

natenator
31-07-2009, 08:56 AM
I don't think you need the var and dro[pping 4%-5% BF is easy on test alone.

Diet decides all.

kloan
31-07-2009, 07:43 PM
Even at low doses? I don't want to get the typical bloat from it like I did the first time around... I was very bloated, winded, etc.... felt like a fatty. I watched my sodium intake like a hawk, didn't seem to help much.. maybe a little.

daande
31-07-2009, 08:07 PM
I would run just the Test E go on the palumbo diet and get some T3. Should be g2g.

kloan
02-08-2009, 12:46 AM
This is what I'm thinking.. good for dieting and putting on muscle:

Week 1-4
125mg Test E twice/week
100mg Tren E twice/week
40mg Anavar ED

Week 5-8
250mg Test E twice/week
200mg Tren E twice/week

Week 9-12
120mg Test E twice/week
100mg Tren E twice/week
40mg Anavar ED

Would I need Bromo/Dostinex on hand? Haven't been able to find it yet, so I want to be sure before I start something like this (first time with Tren).

baza
02-08-2009, 01:01 AM
Dont' complicate it.

125mg Test E twice/week
100mg Tren E twice/week

Make it 1.5 twice weekly. (And I'm a big fan of low dosages, so that is not high at all)
375mgs of test 300mgs of tren is a good dose. That's less than 50mgs of tren a day.
Personally, I'd do that weeks 1-6
Weeks 7-12 just test E 375mgs
Weeks 5-12 40mgs anavar.

Only if you really want to use the var, it's not that necessary imo.
I'd rather finish off with winny 6-12

kloan
02-08-2009, 02:07 AM
Yeah, that looks good too... how would I do 1.5 though? At 125mg, it's already half of 250mg.. would I just do another 1/4 cc each shot?

Winny, I dunno.. All I felt from it was tired, and got acne.. maybe it was bunk (Geneza).

baza
02-08-2009, 02:19 AM
I'm confused, what's the TNT dosed at?
SAL or the other one? I think sal is 250mgs of test, forget then tren dose.
If it's 250mgs of test just do 1.5cc a week.
Get winni tabs, with the test enan, you should still feel great.
Or take the anavar, or just test alone. Any 3 will be fine.

kloan
02-08-2009, 02:22 AM
It's not TNT... I waited too long and ran out of time, didn't get to order it.

So I was going to take my chances ordering overseas again, and get a couple bottles of Tren E, 200mg/ml. I already have the 2 bottles of Test E, 250mg/ml.

Actually, just saw that naps isn't taking orders. Back to the drawing board!

baza
02-08-2009, 02:28 AM
Oh okay. Well 1.5 cc a week would be enough in that case, in my opinion.
Some would even say every 5 days.

kloan
02-08-2009, 02:36 AM
K, I prefer to do it twice a week.. so I guess I could do .75 cc twice/week. Is that even on the syringe? lol.. I can't remember...

baza
02-08-2009, 03:07 AM
Yeah you could get close enough. Or you could just do 500mgs/week of the test so 2cc a week.
Or even, 1cc every 5 days, would give you 350mgs/week, 4 days = 437.5mgs/week.

daande
02-08-2009, 03:42 AM
I did run Test P and Tren A and I loved it I would do Tren everytime if I didnt get hair loss on it.