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kloan
31-07-2009, 03:10 AM
I want to start the Keto diet again and lose this damn stubborn BF, but I want some 'help' with it. I don't want my strength to go down, and would be happy if it actually went up while dieting. Last stint I had with Keto, I got quite flat and lost strength.. didn't like it.

I've got a couple bottles of Test enth (250mg/ml), which isn't enough for a full cycle.. I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to do. I know I'd like either Var or Tbol along with whatever I do.

Which do you prefer and why?

St
31-07-2009, 07:50 AM
On my Keto diet i only lose strenght if my fat intake is to low,so you can bump up 1 meal and see if that helps,if not bump up another meal with a little more fat.I general when it comes to dieting most lose strenght,i did until i upped my cals just a bit.You can always take some ECA to keep your strenght up while dieting.

MMASTAR
31-07-2009, 07:53 AM
I've read stimulants are bad when on keto?? anyways, var has some crazy strength gains.. plus its hard to do cardio on t-bol because of the pumps...

St
31-07-2009, 07:57 AM
I've read stimulants are bad when on keto?? anyways, var has some crazy strength gains.. plus its hard to do cardio on t-bol because of the pumps...

If you read the book anabolic diet Dr. Mauro said Caffeine works best on a Keto diet.

gsxr750
31-07-2009, 08:46 AM
I ran 250mg/week of Test (125mg 2x a week) with 40mg of anavar in strict keto diet and had great results. Strength stayed relatively up, higher than usual when dieting that's for sure..

Like Tony said up your EFAS if strength takes a serious dive, but you kind of have to expect that since you're dieting bro. Also your success of course will rely 80%+ on how strict you are on your diet / cardio not the ehnancements so stay focused you can do it!

I have tried TBOL while not dieting and my response to it was similar to anavar with maybe a bit more bloat (est 20%). Seemed like you need less TBOL to get similar effects of higher dosed Anavar.

Maybe try 250-400mg Test-E a week for preservation with low dose anavar or TBOL for keeping your muscles hard.

Start a log too if you can and log your diet / training / supplements so we can get more real-world data based on everything not just what people are taking or eating or lifting.

gsxr750
31-07-2009, 08:53 AM
- 40mg anavar a day
- 125mg Test-E 2x a week ( prescribed 125 doubled it )
- 350iu HCG 3x a week ( prescribed )
- Strict keto diet, AM empty stomach low intensity cardio
- Weight training tried to keep reps low weight high

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7443/diet2.jpg

hyperlite32
31-07-2009, 10:36 AM
Are those actual pics of you gsxr? If so, amazing work...

gsxr750
31-07-2009, 10:42 AM
Thanks bro! Was a tough but rewarding 6 months..

Kloan if you're like me and have a hard time getting over the carb cravings / hunger during the first 3 days try some clen. Even just for a few days, stuff helped me get over that first and most difficult hump.

IronMan
31-07-2009, 01:00 PM
Thats awsome GSXR750, great transformation!

gsxr750
31-07-2009, 01:56 PM
Thanks! Anythings possible if you want it bad enough! Sorry wasn't trying to jack your thread Kloan just wanted to show you low dose test / anavar results with keto diet.

MikeyFXD35
31-07-2009, 02:05 PM
Holly crap, nice job. Now we just need to work on the crotch rocket...LOL

kloan
31-07-2009, 07:42 PM
Thanks! Anythings possible if you want it bad enough! Sorry wasn't trying to jack your thread Kloan just wanted to show you low dose test / anavar results with keto diet.

Not at all man, I appreciate your input. I've followed your progress in the past and was inspired by it. Seeing your positive posts was one of the contributing factors for starting the Keto diet in the first place (back in October).

As far as carb cravings go, I actually have strong will power.. as long as I am strict and don't break the rules, I can stick to it. I found I felt like crap for the first week, and started to feel more clarity the following week. Only thing I got sick of was the menu... eggs, chicken, fats.... **** it gets boring fast.

As far as the dosing goes with Test and Var, I think that's pretty bang on to what I was thinking.. the two bottles I have will be enough for sure, so I just have to decide between Tbol and Var.