View Full Version : had an idea, looking for opinions
Turtle
04-12-2007, 06:25 AM
would it make any sense to take an oral only on training days? Say you took d-bol with a half life of 4 hours or anavar with half life of 9 hours once or twice a week in a decent dose on REALLY hard training days only. Would that give you an advantage on not using at all? or would it be too suprresive the rest of the week?
example "cycle" once a week take:
60mg dbol and 50mg test susp. on REALLY hard training day.
rest of week its:
trib, maca, creatine maybe clomid?
any thoughts? or am i just trying to scam my way back into a cycle lol.
blimp
04-12-2007, 06:39 AM
Did something like that but was on eq all through also. Worked well for me.
waderow
04-12-2007, 09:56 AM
Lots of guys will take abombs and dbol for a quick upper on a heavy lift day. I have been tempted too.
Other than letting your joints and tendons experience a heavier lift, which will either help you through a plateau or injure you, I can't see why fluctuating blood levels would help so much....
When the healing process is underway, there will be no hormone present, therefore, IMO, no effect or influence on hypertrophy.
A guy who knows his body well, would have to track his progress through a month or two to see if extra gains were achieved. I can't see it though.
I would think its an injury risk, for the only purpose to lift a little more in the gym, to look stronger, which we all know, for all intents and purposes, is not for us.
AlbertaBeef
04-12-2007, 04:23 PM
I'd have to agree on injury potential, you don't grow in the gym you grow out of the gym so I can't see any lasting results. I have tried a 2 week on 2 week off protocol with dbol and that was effective for some keepable gains but didn't repalce a proper cycle for me, others have had better success.
bigdaddydrew123
04-12-2007, 07:33 PM
if your supposedly off your trying to get your natural test to recover, i would think that protocol would screw up natural test levels. why not try same idea with trib. use other protocol when you are on cycle.
gustavo77
04-12-2007, 08:28 PM
would it make any sense to take an oral only on training days? Say you took d-bol with a half life of 4 hours or anavar with half life of 9 hours once or twice a week in a decent dose on REALLY hard training days only. Would that give you an advantage on not using at all? or would it be too suprresive the rest of the week?
example "cycle" once a week take:
60mg dbol and 50mg test susp. on REALLY hard training day.
rest of week its:
trib, maca, creatine maybe clomid?
any thoughts? or am i just trying to scam my way back into a cycle lol.
Nah bro, i highly doubt it will be all that effective and on the "off" days you will feel like poo with no test in your system. Believe me 60mg of d-bol and 50mg of test susp a few days per week is enough to hit the HPTA pretty hard bro and it would only be a matter of time before you will not be producing any test on those off days. It takes a lot more than 1-2 days for the HPTA to recover and get the right balance of hormones to enable your testes to produce test again after being shut down, even with the use of clomid or trib. I think if you are looking for a short intense cycle just run d-bol and test susp for 4-6 weeks daily. I know a lot of bros that get great gains off of these short, "burst" cycles.
Strateg0s
04-12-2007, 10:54 PM
Lots of the anabolic activity from orals can come from their production of IGF, so yeah, it would make sense to center your orals use around the time you work out, just like your use of IGF. But that's right that you'd probably want test throughout the week, even if you were using suspension pre or post WO.
Turtle
05-12-2007, 08:35 PM
thanks for the opinions. yeah it probably just best to stay completly off and when ready to go back on do it properly.
Bowlcut
05-12-2007, 09:03 PM
thanks for the opinions. yeah it probably just best to stay completly off and when ready to go back on do it properly.
Best idea. If you are looking to increase loads there are some many ways to do so naturally. Shit Kazein principle, 4% method in waves, etc
TheBigStink
05-12-2007, 09:46 PM
the beneficial effect of anabolics is enhanced repair and recovery no? would you not be repairing/recovering on days off?
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