TRUEPROTEIN.COM

[MMASTAR]

I know some of you have used proteins from this site, I was just wondering what your reviews are and which you used? As well, has anyone used any of there other products? Any reviews? Do we think these are quality products?

[Avitoholis]

i've used them for a couple of years and just recently moved most of my protein order to a canadian sup shop. Trueprotein is great if you have time to wait for an order, want to buy bulk and can take the time to research what it is you want and need. Also, be prepared to receive powder that may taste like ass, it's all trial and error. As for their other products, I have no reason to doubt their potency. One tip, keep you custom mixes simple. Hope this helps.

[MMASTAR]

Thanks..

[Sportster]

Great service, with the advantage of being able to customize your product...and as mentioned, you can trust the quality..

[cnelson09]

whats shipping and duty charges like bringing it into canada??

[MMASTAR]

just ordered 20 lbs whey shipping was 35$ USD with UPS

[JonnyO]

I always had great service from them, and their products are of high quality and worth every penny. The TeamSkip blend is a good one. I like the Peptopro as well, this is something you would take pre/inta/post w/o because of the pre-digested proteins in it...something to consider.

[Easterner]

I'v been using them for years. Always excellent service and products. It usually takes me about 2 weeks to get my orders so I just reorder well befor I run out of protein. Shipping usually runs me between $40-$50 but they look after duty their so their is no extra charge when it get delivered.

[Ritch]

where`s the deal here. Their isolate is very expensive. Around 8-10$ a pound, plus in US funds. You can buy that for less here! The blends seem better priced however.

[baza]

It's PURE protein, no BS fillers and you can make your own custom blends.
You pay roughly $20/lb of isolate in Canada.
Shipping on my last order was $35 for 17lbs of protein.
For those looking for a meal replacement, I will use a whey/casein/milk isolate/whole egg blend. Then throw in 1/3-1 cup of oatmeal.
chocolate banana is my favorite flavor.
My 5% discount code: KEB246

[Ritch]

It's PURE protein, no BS fillers and you can make your own custom blends.
You pay roughly $20/lb of isolate in Canada.
Shipping on my last order was $35 for 17lbs of protein.
For those looking for a meal replacement, I will use a whey/casein/milk isolate/whole egg blend. Then throw in 1/3-1 cup of oatmeal.
chocolate banana is my favorite flavor.
My 5% discount code: KEB246

Who ever pays $20 for a lb of isolate is seriously getting ****ed in the ass. I can get 2.2kg of isolate for $40, best shit I`ve ever used. I know physique and liquid energy offer 5lbs for about $55 in the isolates as well. So I really don`t see the point of ordering from trueprotein. And this whole custom blend protein is way overated. When you start saying " Oh I want 1/3 casein, 1/3 isolate and 1/3 milk protein" is the point where you are overthinking this shit.

[baza]

Who ever pays $20 for a lb of isolate is seriously getting ****ed in the ass. I can get 2.2kg of isolate for $40, best shit I`ve ever used. I know physique and liquid energy offer 5lbs for about $55 in the isolates as well. So I really don`t see the point of ordering from trueprotein.

Can you give me some examples so I can take a look? I've never ordered isolate so I would like to see. Thanks.



And this whole custom blend protein is way overated. When you start saying " Oh I want 1/3 casein, 1/3 isolate and 1/3 milk protein" is the point where you are overthinking this shit.

Really? Nah, I think it's called consuming a quality protein source.
I use my protein for a meal replacement often, and it's pointless to use pure whey for that.

[nisser]

Isolate is the biggest marketing junk ever invented. Get their blend concentrate which is like 4.80 per lb.

[JonnyO]

Who ever pays $20 for a lb of isolate is seriously getting ****ed in the ass. I can get 2.2kg of isolate for $40, best shit I`ve ever used.


Dont be ignorant to the fact that you get what you pay for, and in the case of protein supplementation it holds true.

[Tiamat]

Dont be ignorant to the fact that you get what you pay for, and in the case of protein supplementation it holds true.

It can be said about most things in life. Not everything, but most.

[baza]

Dont be ignorant to the fact that you get what you pay for, and in the case of protein supplementation it holds true.

Thank you.

[Ritch]

Dont be ignorant to the fact that you get what you pay for, and in the case of protein supplementation it holds true.

Not so sure about that. The proteins that cost more that are the same as the others are because some companies choose the endorse ahtletes, run pages in mags which runs up the cost of the product. kaizen dosen`t do this which is why their isolate is less expensive.

[Ritch]

It can be said about most things in life. Not everything, but most.

yeah but the middle ground is usually where most common sense is found...

[Ritch]

Isolate is the biggest marketing junk ever invented. Get their blend concentrate which is like 4.80 per lb.

Why is this? I do a mix of concentrate and isolate, but in the opposite ratio`s of their blend. I use 35gr of iso then add 15 grams of concentrate. I`m sure the blend you buy has 35gr concentrate and 15 iso or something close to that.

[Ritch]

Can you give me some examples so I can take a look? I've never ordered isolate so I would like to see. Thanks.



Really? Nah, I think it's called consuming a quality protein source.
I use my protein for a meal replacement often, and it's pointless to use pure whey for that.

The kaizen isolate, look it up

If it`s pointless to use pure why as a protein supplement then whey does Dave Palumbo recommend doing just that? Sure what you`re using is a quality supp, I`m not saying otherwise, but the cost of it is just rediculous in my opinion.

[nisser]

Why is this? I do a mix of concentrate and isolate, but in the opposite ratio`s of their blend. I use 35gr of iso then add 15 grams of concentrate. I`m sure the blend you buy has 35gr concentrate and 15 iso or something close to that.

Why pay 2-4x more for protein that has slighly less fat/carbs when you can get decent concentrate that does the job just as fine?

[natenator]

Why pay 2-4x more for protein that has slighly less fat/carbs when you can get decent concentrate that does the job just as fine?
concenrate bloats the hell out of me.

[Ritch]

Why pay 2-4x more for protein that has slighly less fat/carbs when you can get decent concentrate that does the job just as fine?

I used to think the exact same thing, but the costs are getting lower for the isolates. The concentrate is $30 for 2.2kg and the iso is $40 for 2.2kg. But the taste of the isolate is so much better. That`s the main reason for buying it. But I agree most get sucked into buying isolates because everyone says they`re better, when in fact the difference is not all that much.

[L3]

i think off season concentrate is fine, but i plan on usiung high quality isolate when if/when i start my comp prep

[baza]

The kaizen isolate, look it up

If it`s pointless to use pure why as a protein supplement then whey does Dave Palumbo recommend doing just that? Sure what you`re using is a quality supp, I`m not saying otherwise, but the cost of it is just rediculous in my opinion.

A) He sells isolate.
B) Taken with his diet, ie fat it will slow digestion down
C) He is just ONE person with ONE opinion after all.
D) He sells isolate.



Not so sure about that. The proteins that cost more that are the same as the others are because some companies choose the endorse ahtletes, run pages in mags which runs up the cost of the product.

Trueprotein even less so. No 'fancy' packaging or BS marketing.

I don't know what isolate you are buying or how much, but the one on bb.com is $25 for 2lbs, so $12.50/lb. Without even thinking I would take TP over that, even if it was $15/lb.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/kzn/precisionisolate.html

Kaizen 'isolate' - 24g of protein per 28.35g scoop = 85%
TP CFM isolate - 27g of protein per 30g scoop = 90%
And no, I don't care about the fillers which brings it down to 85%.

Or is this the one:
http://www.gorillajack.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1074
25g protein per 30g scoop = 83%.

[Ritch]

your quotes on prices are wrong. I don`t pay the bb.com prices. I pay $40 for 4.4 lbs in canadian funds which is $46 with tax wich is about $10 a lbs. Plus on bb.com you will pay shipping an duty. The isolate on TP is about $10 and dosen`t include shipping, so again, where is the deal here? It`s more expensive on TP.

I understand what you say about Palumbo, no one person has all the answers, and wouldn`t be surprised if he comes out with a casein type supp.

[baza]

Is that the one you use? They seem to have a couple different isolates. And I couldn't find it on the sponsor's site, or supps canada.

[Ritch]

Is that the one you use? They seem to have a couple different isolates. And I couldn't find it on the sponsor's site, or supps canada.

Kaizen isolate is the one. 35grams per 41gram scoop giving 85%. Sure there is better. Better on paper, yes, but in real life results I think not.

[nisser]

I used to think the exact same thing, but the costs are getting lower for the isolates. The concentrate is $30 for 2.2kg and the iso is $40 for 2.2kg. But the taste of the isolate is so much better. That`s the main reason for buying it. But I agree most get sucked into buying isolates because everyone says they`re better, when in fact the difference is not all that much.

The only time I eat whey is after my workout. I down the shake in my car in maybe 10 seconds...don't really care about taste lol. Any other time when I need a shaky meal I use egg whites...they're actually cheaper per g of protein than whey.

[fourarms]

Ritch, kaizen isolate for $46 taxes in? Where please. What flavors are good?

[Ritch]

The only time I eat whey is after my workout. I down the shake in my car in maybe 10 seconds...don't really care about taste lol. Any other time when I need a shaky meal I use egg whites...they're actually cheaper per g of protein than whey.

I tried drinking them a few times and I had non stop farts for 8 hours after the shake. But 500ml sells for about $3. That=16 egg whites which = 48 grams of protein. So about $.06 per gram of protein.

The whey I use costs $46 and each container gives about 48 servings. So $1.06 per seving of 35 grams. That comes to $.03 per gram! Still cheaper than liquid eggs my friend!

[O-Train]

I just figured out mine comes in at $0.021 per gram. So yes, I agree whey is cheaper than egg whites.

[JonnyO]

Not so sure about that. The proteins that cost more that are the same as the others are because some companies choose the endorse ahtletes, run pages in mags which runs up the cost of the product. kaizen dosen`t do this which is why their isolate is less expensive.

I dont want to argue a point thats not going to be made or anything, but how can you say that they are all the same? There are differing qualities whether you chose to believe it or not, its just a fact! So are all creatines the same, NO Products the same, all fat burners the same, all glutamines the same....just because they are in the same classification doesnt mean they are all equal in quality. If the Kaizen suits you and your budget awesome, but for me, I'm going to pay the extra bit of $ for quality, just like when I buy meat, I'll buy a good cut instead of the scraps, chicken I'll go for the breast instead of the thighs.

[Ritch]

I dont want to argue a point thats not going to be made or anything, but how can you say that they are all the same? There are differing qualities whether you chose to believe it or not, its just a fact! So are all creatines the same, NO Products the same, all fat burners the same, all glutamines the same....just because they are in the same classification doesnt mean they are all equal in quality. If the Kaizen suits you and your budget awesome, but for me, I'm going to pay the extra bit of $ for quality, just like when I buy meat, I'll buy a good cut instead of the scraps, chicken I'll go for the breast instead of the thighs.

Of course not all sups are the same! But creatine is still king and monohydrate rules the kingdome! Sure companies are trying to sell us "newer and bette stuff" And even if it is better, the price difference is so insane when you compare how much you can pay for a kilo of regular mono, it`s not even close to being worth buying these "newer and better products" I have a feeling you`re saying this because you have an affiliation with German American technologies, so of course you don`t want people buying inexpensive bulk creatine, cheap ephdrine based fat burners, as it dosen`t benefit you. Just being honest here. But there comes a point if you`re paying 3x`s the price over another product and the % in which it`s better is minimal, to me it`s not worth buying. I`ve got about $100 to spend on whey per month. That gives me 3-4 shakes a day at around 40-50 grams per shake. If I were to go your route it just wouldn`t make sense to dish out $300 a month on just protein powder.

But you competete ( congrats by the way on you recent competition) and that avatar pic is very good. So at your level maybe it`s worth it, but that pepto pro is some expensive shit bro! Way out of my league. And even if I had the cash, no way does my logic allow me to spend that much on protein.

I totally agree with what you say about the meat cuts. Of course the chicken breasts are better than thighs and such. But for some our logic wouldn`t be good enough either. It would have to be bio, and all that crap. And again, this is where I find the truth is found at a middle ground... :greet

[JonnyO]

Of course not all sups are the same! But creatine is still king and monohydrate rules the kingdome! Sure companies are trying to sell us "newer and bette stuff" And even if it is better, the price difference is so insane when you compare how much you can pay for a kilo of regular mono, it`s not even close to being worth buying these "newer and better products" I have a feeling you`re saying this because you have an affiliation with German American technologies, so of course you don`t want people buying inexpensive bulk creatine, cheap ephdrine based fat burners, as it dosen`t benefit you. Just being honest here. But there comes a point if you`re paying 3x`s the price over another product and the % in which it`s better is minimal, to me it`s not worth buying. I`ve got about $100 to spend on whey per month. That gives me 3-4 shakes a day at around 40-50 grams per shake. If I were to go your route it just wouldn`t make sense to dish out $300 a month on just protein powder.

But you competete ( congrats by the way on you recent competition) and that avatar pic is very good. So at your level maybe it`s worth it, but that pepto pro is some expensive shit bro! Way out of my league. And even if I had the cash, no way does my logic allow me to spend that much on protein.

I totally agree with what you say about the meat cuts. Of course the chicken breasts are better than thighs and such. But for some our logic wouldn`t be good enough either. It would have to be bio, and all that crap. And again, this is where I find the truth is found at a middle ground... :greet

Thanks for the props bro, and I see your point as you do mine. You've found a middle ground that fits your budget and cant argue with that as long as your satisfied, and taking care of your nutritional needs thats all that is important.

[Ritch]

Another good, gentlemen like discussion had here on CBB. All the best JonnyO!

[nisser]

I tried drinking them a few times and I had non stop farts for 8 hours after the shake. But 500ml sells for about $3. That=16 egg whites which = 48 grams of protein. So about $.06 per gram of protein.

The whey I use costs $46 and each container gives about 48 servings. So $1.06 per seving of 35 grams. That comes to $.03 per gram! Still cheaper than liquid eggs my friend!

1.5 liters sells for $5.90 at costco. 500ml is around 56grams of protein.

168grams for 5.90$ which is 0.03$ per gram of protein. With zero carbs and zero fat.

[baza]

Thanks for the props bro, and I see your point as you do mine. You've found a middle ground that fits your budget and cant argue with that as long as your satisfied, and taking care of your nutritional needs thats all that is important.

I gave up in this post when he said nothing beats Kaizen lol.

[Ritch]

I gave up in this post when he said nothing beats Kaizen lol.

I never said that you dumbass.

[Ritch]

1.5 liters sells for $5.90 at costco. 500ml is around 56grams of protein.

168grams for 5.90$ which is 0.03$ per gram of protein. With zero carbs and zero fat.

I never even looked at them at costco, will pick some up next time for sure. Thanks.

[baza]

I never said that you dumbass.

"Kaizen isolate is the one. 35grams per 41gram scoop giving 85%. Sure there is better. Better on paper, yes, but in real life results I think not."

I took that as 'nothing beats Kaizen'.

[Ritch]

"Kaizen isolate is the one. 35grams per 41gram scoop giving 85%. Sure there is better. Better on paper, yes, but in real life results I think not."

I took that as 'nothing beats Kaizen'.

Then you took it wrong. I agree stuff like pepto pro is better, casein before bed is better, but not at the asking price, for the small difference it can make. So I guess you can quote me as saying "For the price of $46 tax included for 4.4lbs of 85% isolate, nothing is better" What do you use champ?

[cnelson09]

some advice... dont be cheap when it comes to putting stuff in your body cause you will regret it when your older.

[Ritch]

some advice... dont be cheap when it comes to putting stuff in your body cause you will regret it when your older.

I really oppose this. Say I can get creatine for less than 1/2 the price than what is sold in any store. Why is this bad? It`s cheaper because there are less middlemen involved in the transaction, no bullshit endorsemts given out to other people, no advertisings done to increase the end costs, and plain packaging used. So you can easily get some stuff for much, much better prices and still get the same results.

[natenator]

I really oppose this. Say I can get creatine for less than 1/2 the price than what is sold in any store. Why is this bad? It`s cheaper because there are less middlemen involved in the transaction, no bullshit endorsemts given out to other people, no advertisings done to increase the end costs, and plain packaging used. So you can easily get some stuff for much, much better prices and still get the same results.
Ritch: how do you think Kaizen made it into retailers like Costco or other retailers? Money was spent on many lunches, and meetings and other things to get their foot in the door and their product secured with those retailers. And you should be happy about that because you now have a lower cost protein which you can purchase but you should also be pissed because they jacked up your end-cost due to their 'excessive spending' of getting their foot in the door.

The fact is a company needs to market and promote themselves and there are many ways to do this but if not for the amped up costs of these goods through marketing and advertising you wouldn't know of or be able to use any of these products.

[Ritch]

Ritch: how do you think Kaizen made it into retailers like Costco or other retailers? Money was spent on many lunches, and meetings and other things to get their foot in the door and their product secured with those retailers. And you should be happy about that because you now have a lower cost protein which you can purchase but you should also be pissed because they jacked up your end-cost due to their 'excessive spending' of getting their foot in the door.

The fact is a company needs to market and promote themselves and there are many ways to do this but if not for the amped up costs of these goods through marketing and advertising you wouldn't know of or be able to use any of these products.

If I understand correctly they did something to in the end be able to sell their products at better prices to the consumer. The meetings, the lunches, maybe even golf games... If that`s what it takes then that`s the right way. Sponsoring athletes and spending tens of thousands of dollars advertising is mags does not help me get my protein at lower prices. Besides I know what`s good and what sucks, their opinion means shit to me. So it takes money to make money and Kaizen took a different route to make sure I get a good protein at a fair price, so why would I be pissed about that kind of "excessive spending" if it benefits me?

[natenator]

If I understand correctly they did something to in the end be able to sell their products at better prices to the consumer. The meetings, the lunches, maybe even golf games... If that`s what it takes then that`s the right way. Sponsoring athletes and spending tens of thousands of dollars advertising is mags does not help me get my protein at lower prices. Besides I know what`s good and what sucks, their opinion means shit to me. So it takes money to make money and Kaizen took a different route to make sure I get a good protein at a fair price, so why would I be pissed about that kind of "excessive spending" if it benefits me?
because it still jacked up the cost of your protein which you could have had for cheaper if they hadn't done the lunches, golf games, etc. Oh wait... you wouldn't have had it cheaper at all - you wouldn't have had the product to begin with.

Have you ever ordered from Physique? What's to say that his 'sponsorship' of this board doesn't increase his product costs? Does that bother you as well or would it be acceptable in his case because he's a 'good bro'?

[Ritch]

because it still jacked up the cost of your protein which you could have had for cheaper if they hadn't done the lunches, golf games, etc. Oh wait... you wouldn't have had it cheaper at all - you wouldn't have had the product to begin with.

Have you ever ordered from Physique? What's to say that his 'sponsorship' of this board doesn't increase his product costs? Does that bother you as well or would it be acceptable in his case because he's a 'good bro'?

Sponsorship of the board for physique I`m sure is a means to an end. If it wasen`t profitable for him, he wouldn`t bother. Spend money to make money. So why would it bother me if that increases his costs? If he never advertised here, I`d never know about him... I always plug physique when I can. And yes I`ve ordered from physique. The only thing that sucks for me is the fact I don`t have a car. And I`m never there when the delievery arrives. And because of zoning, the poste office where I have to get the box at is 2 bus rides away. Then having to take that ****ing box back for 2 buses. It takes me an hour to go there and come back to my place. Obviously you can see how this sucks.

Not sure I follow your logic in your first paragraph. They effectively used their money to give me access to a fair priced protein? Without those costs, I would have never of gotten the product? So ya they spent money to make money, what`s the problem here? Why do you seem upset at my posts?

[natenator]

Sponsorship of the board for physique I`m sure is a means to an end. If it wasen`t profitable for him, he wouldn`t bother. Spend money to make money. So why would it bother me if that increases his costs? If he never advertised here, I`d never know about him... I always plug physique when I can. And yes I`ve ordered from physique. The only thing that sucks for me is the fact I don`t have a car. And I`m never there when the delievery arrives. And because of zoning, the poste office where I have to get the box at is 2 bus rides away. Then having to take that ****ing box back for 2 buses. It takes me an hour to go there and come back to my place. Obviously you can see how this sucks.

Not sure I follow your logic in your first paragraph. They effectively used their money to give me access to a fair priced protein? Without those costs, I would have never of gotten the product? So ya they spent money to make money, what`s the problem here? Why do you seem upset at my posts?
Not upset, it's not like *I've* called you a dumb ass or anything like that. I just find it funny your bashing of companies who offer sponsorships, endorsements, have fancy packaging, etc which in your eyes amp up the end cost of the product to the consumer.

My point about Physique was not that it increases his costs but maybe his board sponsorship (and other such things he might partake in) increases the cost of the product to the end consumer like yourself. So, by your standards you should be annoyed about such tactics because they inflate the cost of products that you buy.

[baza]

Then you took it wrong. I agree stuff like pepto pro is better, casein before bed is better, but not at the asking price, for the small difference it can make. So I guess you can quote me as saying "For the price of $46 tax included for 4.4lbs of 85% isolate, nothing is better" What do you use champ?

I use trueprotein, pure protein, that's it, and you know what you are getting.
Seriously, you are so strong with your opinion, but for the most part you are just talking out your ass and looking foolish. For the price, I agree, it's a good deal, but the rest of your arguments are ricidulous and it's obviously you have no clue what you are talking about.

[Ritch]

I use trueprotein, pure protein, that's it, and you know what you are getting.
Seriously, you are so strong with your opinion, but for the most part you are just talking out your ass and looking foolish. For the price, I agree, it's a good deal, but the rest of your arguments are ricidulous and it's obviously you have no clue what you are talking about.

Sure buddy, whatever...

[Ritch]

Baza: care to elaborate on the parts in which you claim I`m talking out of my ass, maybe someone of your intelligence can "smarten" me up...

[baza]

1. You talk like every single brand has the same product, same quality, everything, but Kaizen is cheaper because they don't advertise or sponsor anyone lol.

2. "I can get 2.2kg of isolate for $40, best shit I`ve ever used." Again, I call you out on you saying "it's the best", then you deny it, back track, and say it's the best for the price. How is it the 'best shit' you've ever used? 20lbs of lean muscle gained in 8 weeks?

3. "And this whole custom blend protein is way overated. When you start saying " Oh I want 1/3 casein, 1/3 isolate and 1/3 milk protein" is the point where you are overthinking this shit."

No, it's common sense, and proper nutrition if you aren't strictly using it PWO, as I explained once already.

4. "The proteins that cost more that are the same as the others are because some companies choose the endorse ahtletes, run pages in mags which runs up the cost of the product." Again, this goes to point #1. You are clueless if you think every company has the same product, but only prices are different. LOOK AT THE INGREDIENTS, LOOK AT YOUR "ISOLATE" that is 85% compared to 90% at Trueprotein. You are halfway to a concentrate.
Newsflash, companies use blend in fillers, lower grade protein, other useless 'supplements' to cut costs... hence why an isolate which should be 90%, goes down to 85%, 83%, 80%, etc.

5. "But the taste of the isolate is so much better. That`s the main reason for buying it."
So you buy your product based on taste... I'll leave this one alone lol.

6. You are bashing Trueprotein's prices, when it's cheaper than almost all other supplement prices on the market. But because you get some special Kaizen deal, you bash their price. Makes sense.

7. You go on and on about how good Kaizen is because they don't use 'fancy' packaging. Well Trueprotein doesn't have any labels or bottles, by your logic, they are even better than.

8. "Of course not all sups are the same! But creatine is still king and monohydrate rules the kingdome!" Again clueless, you think because 10 companies sell monohydrate they are all the same quality? Wake up man.

There, you've been smartened up.

[Ritch]

you ****in`moron. I`ll address #8 here. Just by saying what you said, you`ve proven how stupid you really are.

#7 a less fancy bottle LEADS to less expensive products, never said it was better because it`s in a less expensive bottle. Dìd you take your "don`t be a stupid dumbass pills today" Apparantly not. You somehow like to play with words making me look like I said Kaizen is better because of the lack of fancy packaging. It`s one of the reasons I think it`s cheaper. Could be wrong, but who gives a ****! Oh yeah you do and list it in a top 8 you pollute this forum with thinking you`re smartening me up...

#5. about the taste: I was using the even cheaper protein that is an even lesser quality, but was never crazy about the taste, but had bought the kaizen before that I knew tasted better. This was enough for me to want the kaizen. So yeah I bought it out of prefered taste and yes, it is a higher quality. What the **** is wrong with that? I`m not asking you to understand because you`re obviously a god damn retard...

#2. You think I think I`m gonna gain 5 lbs from buying a slightly better protein, not a chance. But you obvioulsy do by buying your shit from TP. As you need a "special blend" because you`re such an advanced athlete the plain ol stuff in stores is not powerfull enough to me your superior needs...

**** dude seriously I think you have absolutely no point whatesoever in your other numbers, and congratulations on being so stupid you have now made it on my ignore list as nothing you say needs to be read by me to better my road in building a better body. Gotta weed out the bad one`s ya know...

[baza]

It's okay, I'd put someone on ignore too if they made me look stupid.

[Ritch]

Not upset, it's not like *I've* called you a dumb ass or anything like that. I just find it funny your bashing of companies who offer sponsorships, endorsements, have fancy packaging, etc which in your eyes amp up the end cost of the product to the consumer.

My point about Physique was not that it increases his costs but maybe his board sponsorship (and other such things he might partake in) increases the cost of the product to the end consumer like yourself. So, by your standards you should be annoyed about such tactics because they inflate the cost of products that you buy.

In the first paragraph as I said before, I wanna invest in something that I feel is helping me. When the profits of a product that I buy go to people that have nothing to do with my gym progress and increases the price of the product I use, I have no choice to go elswhere. Am I wrong to think the sponsoring and advertisements increase the price I pay? I don`t mean to bash them, just hoping someone reading this sees my logic and realizes you don`t need to buy celltech or purple k to get good effects from creatine. Same thing with "nitrotech" it`s just regular whey, but some suckers actually pay the 40 bucks or whatever for this product. The companies with their crazy hype and marketing have it on their agenda not for you to think this for obvious reasons...



second paragraph. The supp industry is a tough one to make money in. For people to know you exist, you`re gonna have to advertise. So to me it`s a given and a must that one has to advertise. So no I`m not annoyed by his sponsorhip here, like I said before, I plug him whenever I can!

So it`s the companies that I have more of a problem with, not the people that sell the products. Because either way, there will be a mark up (obviously). But the companie that does the most advertising and sponsering will have the highest price in the ends. The thing is I consider myself smart enough to pick and choose which products are good enough and by my personal experience in sales and talking shop with supp distributers, I know the truth lies in the middle. I feel like I`ve repeated the same thing a few times here, hope I`m making sense, lol...

[MuSuLPhReAk]

I've done some research in the whey protein field. Be careful what you buy. Not all that glitters is gold.

If my memory serves me correctly, baza, did you have some experience in bulk whey? I think it was you but it was years ago...canadianwhey??

And on a final note, it's ok to argue, to discuss. It's what helps us learn and grow. But please keep the name calling to a minimum. I'm sure you guys are better than that. You're just heated up and letting your emotions get the best of you. Minus the name calling, the thread is informative.

[Ritch]

You`re right musclefreak, the name calling got out of hands on my behalf. Sorry. But one thing that lights my fuse if having my words played with and making me look like I said something I didn`t, I then kinda lose it. Since we`re on the topic of whey and you say you`ve done some research, any companies you can claim as being good or bad?

[JonnyO]

No need for name calling over someones personal opinion over whey proteins. Do I agree with Ritch's opinion's on the powders, no, but he's found something he's satisfied with and thats fine I cant argue with that. Its his OWN personal opinion and not FACT. Many of us have seen and read enough research to know whats best for us. I mean Skips blend (34% Whey Protein Isolate Microfiltration, 33% Micellar Casein, 33% Egg White Protein) from TP is the top selling protein powder for a reason.

[Ritch]

No need for name calling over someones personal opinion over whey proteins. Do I agree with Ritch's opinion's on the powders, no, but he's found something he's satisfied with and thats fine I cant argue with that. Its his OWN personal opinion and not FACT. Many of us have seen and read enough research to know whats best for us. I mean Skips blend (34% Whey Protein Isolate Microfiltration, 33% Micellar Casein, 33% Egg White Protein) from TP is the top selling protein powder for a reason.

I really respect the way you handle yourself in this thread but on other sites like bb.com you see some muscle tech products as the number 1 sellers, ephedrine free lipo 6 as the number 1 fat burner. You sure on how a product sells is the best indicator of it`s value? But that Skip formulation does look good indeed...

[MuSuLPhReAk]

I've done mostly research on pricing of whey in very large quantities. Top of the grade whey. Were talking tens of tons pricing. So I have a ball park figure how much the base product is.

Too many companies put a ton of cheap fillers to maximize profits. It's not to say it's bad protein, but you're not getting what you think you are paying for. It's really important to read the ingredients and see exactly what your getting in there. Blends are notorious for being the money maker of supp compaines.

I get most of my protein from food but do supplement. Since I don't really spend that much on protein, I usually go with a straight isolate that tastes like ass and mix it with stuff to make it taste better. Sometimes I'll grab a better tasting protein just for not having to mix it to make it taste better.

If you spend a lot on protein supplements, read the ingredients and choose what's best for you.

That's why I'll be starting up a supplement ratings and review site so people can actually inform eachother on taste, price, what exactly your getting and if it works.

I know a bit about marketing too and you can't trust all supp stores either. The guys we have are pretty stand up. Known a few for many years and can call them friends I trust.

But other online companies may not be the same. Say you're running an online store. You manage to get a specific protein, vitamin, etc at a super cheap price from the distributor. Having a little experience with the software or SQL, you can "manipulate" the reviews to give that specific item a 5 star rating with 400 people praising it. Newbies don't know much about things so they go with what everyone praises or reviews high. It's human nature. So the newb buys that item thinking he's struck gold while really it's the vendor who did it. The site I'm working on will keep things honest. No store being run on the site so the reviews will be legit and by you guys/gals. Of course advertising on it is welcome by supp stores or supp companies. But the data is not manipulated as I have control of it. I don't profit from the sales of any company's items so have no alterior motives.

The Canadian bodybuilding and fitness community is evolving. We are starting to get the stuff we really need as consumers. I can't do everything of course, which is why when someone does something totally different than what I'm working on, I welcome them here. It's good for the community as a whole. Of course if they do what I do, it's not in my best interest to promote them..lol

Our sponsors here are good, but as time goes on, there will be a ton of supp stores online trying to sell you the next big thing. Protein is used by all of us so it's best we buy what's good for us and what's best for your wallet. Not everyone has a good job and lots of bodybuilders are in school so money is very tight. Take the protein you feel is best value for what you are paying for and read the ingredients carefully to be sure you know what's in there.

Protein also has an expiration date. It degrades as time goes on. So buying 20 tons of the top grade protein at $7/lbs from a provider, doesn't mean you'll be selling great protein if it takes you 5 years to move it. There is so much involved with this stuff. Yes, a product like muscletech's protein is good. But you are paying for a lot of extra stuff when you buy it. They pull out 10 page ads in many mags which increases cost etc. But if you feel it's the one for you, then go for it. But if you're spending $400/month on protein, then you must rethink your strategy imo.

Sorry for the long winded answer, I'm rambling.

[kloan]

I'm surprised this thread is still here considering I was asked to remove my post about Trueprotein a few months ago.

Anyway, I have been using Trueprotein, their 'recession blend', for around 4 months now. I can say that I noticed a huge difference compared to the almost-expired ON protein I was drinking. No bloating, gas, and recovery seems better.

I much prefer the plain whey over anything else on the market simply because I know what I'm consuming. There are way too many products that have filler, artificial sweetener and a bunch of other crap I don't need or want to put in my body.

TP is expensive to ship to Canada, but since I'm in the US it was a no-brainer.

When I was drinking the ON, I was going through 5lb tubs every 2.5 weeks.

I've had this 25lb bag from TP since March iirc, and I still have around 3lbs left. Huge value I have yet to see any other company match.

[baza]

MP yes I was in whey for a bit and was also 'close' to people who were really into the supplement business, you learn a lot.
It's just frustrating to see people so blind to think all protein supplements are created equal.

Like you said, ideally you want to get it from food, but I've become lazy and usually use 3 meals a day from shakes/oatmeal or shake/udos/almonds before bed. That being said, I'm in the best shape of my life and barely do any cardio, so there is no need for me to change.

[O-Train]

I've done some research in the whey protein field. Be careful what you buy. Not all that glitters is gold.

If my memory serves me correctly, baza, did you have some experience in bulk whey? I think it was you but it was years ago...canadianwhey??

And on a final note, it's ok to argue, to discuss. It's what helps us learn and grow. But please keep the name calling to a minimum. I'm sure you guys are better than that. You're just heated up and letting your emotions get the best of you. Minus the name calling, the thread is informative.

I questioned the quality of the whey protein powder I buy. I found out later that it's fine. The other interesting thing I found out is that several different companies will use the exact same powder and just market it under different names/brands.

[MMASTAR]

I just got the 20 lbs of ultra filtered whey i ordered in peanut butter cup... best tasting protein i ever tried and mixes great.. 28 grams protein per scoop..paid about 13 bucks a pound. I also have 16 lbs dutch chocolate fudge casein protein coming. Will let u know how it tastes...

[baza]

Buddy, gotta get chocolate banana. I personally didn't care for the PB cup that much. Assuming you meant chocolate peanut butter? If so< i wish the chocolate was stronger.

[kloan]

My 25lb plain is just about done... I think I'm gonna get something flavoured next time I order... the plain was just a bit to...... plain. I always have to mix it with juice, fruit, maple syrup, etc just to make it palatable.

Btw, don't bother ordering their 'natural' flavour packs... I got orange and vanilla. First, they say each serving is 1/10th teaspoon = bullshit. I had to use 1/4-1/2 teaspoon just to be able to taste it. Went through the vanilla quick.. orange is just gross.

[MMASTAR]

I only see coconut banana... no chocolate banana... i would love chocolate banana..

[MMASTAR]

OMG ok i see it.. yumm chocolate banana.. and chocolate chip cookie dough.. k i gotta fininsh these 20 lbs quick.. cant wait to try all the flavours..

[baza]

I was a bit disappointed with cookie dough. It was 'okay' but I was really looking forward to it.
I think you can get sample packs of a bunch of flavors.

[JonnyO]

guys those flavors from TP that you using? Sounds good gonna have to get me some soon.

[MMASTAR]

Ya trueprotein.. taste great man..

[baza]

KEB246 is my discount code.
Chocolate banana is best protein I've ever had, and I'm not even a huge fan of banana flavoring.
I get my PWO shake from there too, dextrose + whey together.

[LonelyBedouin]

Anyone try the Citrus Lime-Ade? sounds sooo tasty... But with previous citrus wheys they havent been very good.

[MMASTAR]

i stay away from all juice flavoured proteins... havent found a good tasting one yet.. and they tend to foam up to much..

[LonelyBedouin]

i stay away from all juice flavoured proteins... havent found a good tasting one yet.. and they tend to foam up to much..

Yea just read a review for it. Said that the taste is very minimal but if crystal lite was added it might taste better

[MMASTAR]

I just got 16 lbs of TP's chocolate fudge casein protein... it mixes like crap and tastes bad.. not recomended..the whey is awesome though..

[Weilder]

Ive been buying from TP for years. Good prices, good products. Premium Chocolate Peanut butter cup, Dutch Chocolate Fudge, and French Vanilla are my favorite flavors so far. The only thing I regret is their recession whey concentrate use to give me the shits some times, lactose intolerant.

You guys can use my code AXG725 if you want, it will save 5% on any order and 10% on 16lbs or more.

Cheers!

[powerhouse]

I got my 25lbs a couple weeks ago, I buy unflavored and add natural flavoring like banana, blueberries or whatever fits my need/desire at the time.

[MMASTAR]

got some waxy maize in chocolate banana from these guys.. its to die for!! also got some custom blend BCAA's with some other stuff blended in, in limeaid flavour... terrible...but it is nice to add whatever you want in there.. i made a nice intra workout drink..

[MMASTAR]

oh and ive adapted quite well to the chocolate fudge casein protein from there and now i acctually enjoy the taste of it..