Advice Winter "Lean" Bulker

[daande]

I know most dont think you can stay lean and bulk at the same time. Basically I would want to put on 10 pounds of muscle and possibly lose a few pounds of fat. Here is what I was thinking because I want to stay away from Tren/Deca due to hair loss.

Weeks 1-12: Test Enanthate @ 500mg/Week
Weeks 1-12: Equipoise @ 400mg/Week
Weeks 4-8: 25mg Dbol ED (I have it laying around and I wanna get rid of it :) )

PCT:

Weeks 14-15: HCG @ 1428iu EOD
Weeks 14-18: Clomid 100mg ED (Dose split 2X per day)
Weeks 14-20: Nolvadex 20mg ED

I am trying to mimic this study http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9497 Without having to buy 20,000 iu of HCG. Do you guys think that PCT is overkill could I run abit less clomid and nolvadex since I am only running test and eq at a fairly low dose? I wouldnt mind running 10,000iu of HCG over 2 weeks. If I eat alot of clean calories should I be able to put on some muscle while loosing fat?

[C-money]

looks good bro, im doing the same cycle as we speak, except im doing 600mgs of eq and Iam cutting not lean bulking.. only a couple weeks in, up 5 pounds, more vascularity and hardness.... strength is increasing as well as pumps..

[daande]

looks good bro, im doing the same cycle as we speak, except im doing 600mgs of eq and Iam cutting not lean bulking.. only a couple weeks in, up 5 pounds, more vascularity and hardness.... strength is increasing as well as pumps..

What are you running for PCT?

[C-money]

What are you running for PCT?

adex on cycle, and just nolva after. im not running hcg till i absolutely have to, i recovered fine last winter with a long ass test e cycle with just nolva after. Ill let you know how this cycle goes, all i know is im eating low cals, weight is up already and im leaning out aswell.. I can tell my cardio is better already from the eq, me and my girl are pretty even when it comes to jogging, and i blew her doors off last night!:yeah

[daande]

adex on cycle, and just nolva after. im not running hcg till i absolutely have to, i recovered fine last winter with a long ass test e cycle with just nolva after. Ill let you know how this cycle goes, all i know is im eating low cals, weight is up already and im leaning out aswell.. I can tell my cardio is better already from the eq, me and my girl are pretty even when it comes to jogging, and i blew her doors off last night!:yeah

Hahahaha nice

[Jmany]

looks good bro, im doing the same cycle as we speak, except im doing 600mgs of eq and Iam cutting not lean bulking.. only a couple weeks in, up 5 pounds, more vascularity and hardness.... strength is increasing as well as pumps..

nice nice, im looking at my next cycle will be something like 600mgs test and 600mgs eq... if u dont mind me asking what lab you running with eq and have you tried EQ befor?

[tex]

no need for nolvadex and clomid for pct....get some aromasin.....cycle looks good.....Im running only 10000 ius hcg.....and Ive been on for a looong time....we'll see how she goes

[daande]

no need for nolvadex and clomid for pct....get some aromasin.....cycle looks good.....Im running only 10000 ius hcg.....and Ive been on for a looong time....we'll see how she goes

How would you run aromasin?

[JonnyO]

Thats amount of HCG is too much IMHO, but if your going to try it I am all for it, but I would bump up the Nolvadex to 20mg twice a day.

[tex]

How would you run aromasin? 25mg ed with the start of the hcg.....follow praetorians pct guidelines......he knows his shit.....ideally i would be running 2000iu's hcg eod for 2 weeks.....but I didnt have enough so I am just halfing it......

[C-money]

nice nice, im looking at my next cycle will be something like 600mgs test and 600mgs eq... if u dont mind me asking what lab you running with eq and have you tried EQ befor?

Its my first go with eq, i can tell its doing its job already... Im taking 5*, 300mgs twice a week.. I have a feeling already that im gonna be pretty satisfied

[Jmany]

wicked stuff, thats exactly what im going to be running
keep me updated how your cycle is going and what you notice from this bro

[L3]

^^^ in case your interested, im only running 300mg/week (along with test) and veins are coming in on my delts... my BF right now is a guestimate 12-13%... can't complain :D

[C-money]

wicked stuff, thats exactly what im going to be running
keep me updated how your cycle is going and what you notice from this bro

Yeaaah buddy! will do!