View Full Version : help with pct for BLASTnCRUISE
HeavyD
23-07-2009, 10:11 PM
i normally run HCG during cycle, and clomid nolva for pct.... but what for blast/cruise?
i am thinking on running 250TEwk dyring cruise....
can i just run my normal pct?
40/40/20/20 nolva
70/35/35 clomid
tiramisu
23-07-2009, 10:26 PM
I don't believe that the nolva or clomid makes any sense if you aren't coming off.
hcg usage throughout cycle makes sense. Not sure what to do while cruising.
JonnyO
23-07-2009, 10:54 PM
Come completely off for your cruise and use HCG, Clomid and Aromasin or Nolva...Aromasin prefered.
tiramisu
23-07-2009, 11:03 PM
Come completely off for your cruise and use HCG, Clomid and Aromasin or Nolva...Aromasin prefered.
This confuses me a bit. Not that coming off between cycles and doing your 8 weeks of recovery is a bad thing but it isn't what I understand Blast & Cruise to be. Can you clarify a bit?
tiramisu
23-07-2009, 11:13 PM
http://doggcrapp.blogspot.com/2006/11/blasting-and-cruising.html
Skyblob
23-07-2009, 11:18 PM
Come completely off for your cruise and use HCG, Clomid and Aromasin or Nolva...Aromasin prefered.
Why not all 4 bro?
no need for pct if you are cruising. i wont say not to cruise but you will be in need a very aggressive pct when you do come off......good luck!
JonnyO
24-07-2009, 02:11 AM
Because to me a cruise is time off blasting--->ie:Gym/log book. Whe nI trained with DC it was OFF ALL AAS during cruises, thats the whole point is to try to restore HPTA function and your not going to do that 'bridging".
JonnyO
24-07-2009, 02:12 AM
Why not all 4 bro?
I dont know. Just seems one or the other would be just fine, why use more than we really need?
nisser
24-07-2009, 02:37 AM
i normally run HCG during cycle, and clomid nolva for pct.... but what for blast/cruise?
i am thinking on running 250TEwk dyring cruise....
can i just run my normal pct?
40/40/20/20 nolva
70/35/35 clomid
PCT stands for POST CYCLE THERAPY. If you're still on test you are still on cycle.
Your therapy is pointless.
tiramisu
24-07-2009, 03:36 AM
I'm still lost.
While I see the value of anti-e's and hcg. I can't see how your hpta can possibly even begin recover during a 2 week cruise. Your going to be shut down and either riding out tapering blood levels on long esters or pretty much crashed if using short esters.
Why wouldn't you sustain at least an hrt level of test during a cruise?
If I for example using 2 grams of test-e it my blood levels wouldn't likely drop below an hrt level but if I was using test-prop I can see being in a bit of hole during a cruise with maybe some hope that the hpta is trying to recover.
JonnyO
24-07-2009, 03:55 AM
I'm still lost.
While I see the value of anti-e's and hcg. I can't see how your hpta can possibly even begin recover during a 2 week cruise. Your going to be shut down and either riding out tapering blood levels on long esters or pretty much crashed if using short esters.
Why wouldn't you sustain at least an hrt level of test during a cruise?
If I for example using 2 grams of test-e it my blood levels wouldn't likely drop below an hrt level but if I was using test-prop I can see being in a bit of hole during a cruise with maybe some hope that the hpta is trying to recover.
I always took a 4-5 week cruise, so there's the confusion. Usually an 8 week blast. But also if ones going to cruise for 2-3 weeks, the ancilliaries with pct will stimulate the hpta somewhat and in the long run it will be more beneficial than not doing it for when you come off, the idea is to stimulate not fully recover as its impossible in that short time period.
^^ then he just needs hcg.......
HeavyD
25-07-2009, 02:32 AM
thankx for replies...... sorry it took so long cause my computer has been down
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