HCG Help Needed

[InPursuitOfPerfection]

current cycle

1-15 Test Prop 75mgED
9-15 Masteron 50mgED

Now here is my problem, i only have 2 x 5000iu amps, which is not enough to get me through the entire cycle and my source has dried up. My question is, how could i more efficiently use what i have to bring the boys back when im nearing the conclusion of the cycle? Dosage, protcol ect....

Any help would be great.

[theboss]

wow..15 weeks of ED shots = 105 pokes...you like needles boy!

basic math suggest you have 10000iu total / 15 weeks = 666iu per week total / 2 = 300iu-ish 2x per week if you start it right away............but you could start it a few weeks in and give yourself a few bigger shots of HCG instead of equal dosing...up to you.

how is the PCT?

[InPursuitOfPerfection]

but wont i have a problem with shelf life?

[InPursuitOfPerfection]

and yes... my day just doesnt start right without a pin... lol

[Seth]

You could just start 3 weeks before the end of the cycle and continuing a couple of weeks into PCT. Should be enough to help recovery. If you really want to use both your vials, you can start around week 10 @ 400-500iu e3d and stop at week 2 of PCT

[InPursuitOfPerfection]

well its cheap....when i can get it lol... and i want to make sure i recover as quickly as possible, so ill probably use both, ive never used hcg before, so this is a first...

whats your opinion, should i use both, or would one be enough?

[theboss]

i think 1 would be enough.

[Seth]

It depends on how you recover... Some people just pop back without much issues without even doing PCT. I, for one, like to use some HCG, but not for the whole cycle. If you're into pins and you don't mind using all you HCG, I don't see how taking it longer would harm (unless you bust your leydigs cells by injecting a ****load of HCG at once). But as you said before, you should consider the shelf life of your HCG. Most agree on around 30 days when it's mixed with BW

[InPursuitOfPerfection]

hmm, well i guess i have to think about this a bit more... i know that im deff not one of those guys that pop back right away, for me it does take some time, i think i may just play it safe and start the hcg earlier on, gauge how i react to it, so next time around ill know exactly what it can do for me and in what time frame. I think that might be the best way to go about it for this run.
what you think?

[waderow]

do this

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9497

[InPursuitOfPerfection]

ok, so this says to use hcg, clomid, nolva simulateously following the cycle correct?? in my case, 3 days after last injection. I have no idea how to translate their abreviations regarding the time frame of which to take each substance...for example 2500iu/qodx16d
PO BID, and PO QD???

Its a little bit longer then most other pct treatments ive read about, but the results of the study speak for themselves...

any help on the those translations would be great bro!

thanks alot!!

[InPursuitOfPerfection]

does that say to take 2500iu every other day for 16 days???

if so, i dont have nearly enough...

[gustavo77]

Keep it simple...although i usually suggest running HCG throughout an entire cycle, you can run it the last 8 weeks of your cycle...run your shots every 3rd day or simply twice per week...for the first 2 shots run 1000iu, then just 500iu per shot...do your last shot of HCG 4-5 days before you start pct drugs.

I've never understood why people run HCG and a SERM (ie nolva, clomid) at the same time....nolva and clomid are used to stimulate/increase LH production but with the use of HCG LH production will be temporarily suppressed...kind of a waste of money running clomid or nolva if you ask me...

For PCT, run 100mg of clomid per day for 3 weeks and 25mg of aromasin per day for 5 weeks.

[InPursuitOfPerfection]

Keep it simple...although i usually suggest running HCG throughout an entire cycle, you can run it the last 8 weeks of your cycle...run your shots every 3rd day or simply twice per week...for the first 2 shots run 1000iu, then just 500iu per shot...do your last shot of HCG 4-5 days before you start pct drugs.

I've never understood why people run HCG and a SERM (ie nolva, clomid) at the same time....nolva and clomid are used to stimulate/increase LH production but with the use of HCG LH production will be temporarily suppressed...kind of a waste of money running clomid or nolva if you ask me...

For PCT, run 100mg of clomid per day for 3 weeks and 25mg of aromasin per day for 5 weeks.


sounds good, i will run the hcg as you suggested... although, i already have nolvadex, clomid, and adex... im using .25mgED adex throughout, and i was planning on running the clomid nolva as such

clomid 100/100/50/50 those are daily dosages for each week
nolva 40/40/20/20 " " " " " " "


do you think this would suffice?

i could probably get aromasin, but its more $$$...

[InPursuitOfPerfection]

ill probably be dropping the adex once i start the masteron, we'll see how it works out, but ive read alot about its ability to function as an AI/Anti-E, so i figured i might save my adex if i dont need it.

[gustavo77]

sounds good, i will run the hcg as you suggested... although, i already have nolvadex, clomid, and adex... im using .25mgED adex throughout, and i was planning on running the clomid nolva as such

clomid 100/100/50/50 those are daily dosages for each week
nolva 40/40/20/20 " " " " " " "


do you think this would suffice?

i could probably get aromasin, but its more $$$...

I see no reason for nolva in pct when using clomid and aromasin. Three weeks of clomid @ 100mg/day should suffice...no need to use it longer.

Aromasin is definitely worth the funds bro, it is indispensible in PCT IMO.

[gustavo77]

ill probably be dropping the adex once i start the masteron, we'll see how it works out, but ive read alot about its ability to function as an AI/Anti-E, so i figured i might save my adex if i dont need it.

Masteron does not lower estrogen...if you are using adex, continue to use it until pct and then switch to aromasin.

[InPursuitOfPerfection]

ok... i guess ill get myself some aromasin for pct then, nolva i can keep around in case i encounter estro sides during cycle. Ill run the adex right to pct as well. Clomid @ 100mg ED for 3 weeks with aromasin @ 25mg ED for 5 weeks for PCT.

appreciate your time bro....thanks!