Painfree INJ Solutions?

[Ghost_Shadow]

I mainly convert Test Propionate at 100mg/ml and Tren Acetate at 100mg/ml. I use 5% BA and 15% BB for Prop and just 5% BA for Tren. However the Prop still hurts quite a bit when injected and Tren stings a bit. Aside from lowering the mg/ml, what can I do to make them totally pain free? Is there any reference guide that indicates the maximum amount of powder that can be dissolved in 1 ml? Thanks in advance.

[Dk]

i dont know alot about brewing.. but most labs use 2% BA. %5 seems high as hell

[nisser]

Use 3BA/15BB and make it 75mg/75mg imo. Prop may sting no matter what; Trust me on this I have more opened prop vials from different labs than some people see in several cycles worth. Prop just hurts =(

[HeavyD]

yea nisser is right.... i go 2/20..... only reason is i have heard higher the ba more pain.
and higher the bb, supposed to help with prop pain.

but i have 100mg prop at 2/20 and am not sore but stiff for a good day..

i love prop, but it doesn't love me

[tiramisu]

I'm more interested in your use of 5% BA and no BB for tren.

I have been of the understanding that BA is quickly very quickly absorbed into the muscle once injected and that the powder is likely to recrystalize if not mixed with BB.

Essentially you need to think of BB as the solvent and BA as the thing that keeps bacteria from breeding (despite the fact that BA also has solvent characteristics).

Someone correct me if I'm off base but this is essentially how I've approached keeping my own powders pain free.

I've generally followed this recipe for tren http://www.afboard.com/forum/anabolic-discussion/26315-how-make-tren-mike.html
The BA content is 3% and BB is 17% @ 100 mg/ml. 2% is the normal of BA required to keep bacteria from growing.

[Ghost_Shadow]

Thanks everybody for your replies. I agree HeavyD, I love prop, but it doesn't love me. That's the only test I like to use. Anybody hear about using ethyl oleate as a solvent?

[cdnsoldier]

Thanks everybody for your replies. I agree HeavyD, I love prop, but it doesn't love me. That's the only test I like to use. Anybody hear about using ethyl oleate as a solvent?

What do you mean by it doesn't like you? Ethyl oleate can be used. There are various formulations you can use.

[nisser]

I'm more interested in your use of 5% BA and no BB for tren.

I have been of the understanding that BA is quickly very quickly absorbed into the muscle once injected and that the powder is likely to recrystalize if not mixed with BB.

Essentially you need to think of BB as the solvent and BA as the thing that keeps bacteria from breeding (despite the fact that BA also has solvent characteristics).

Someone correct me if I'm off base but this is essentially how I've approached keeping my own powders pain free.

I've generally followed this recipe for tren http://www.afboard.com/forum/anabolic-discussion/26315-how-make-tren-mike.html
The BA content is 3% and BB is 17% @ 100 mg/ml. 2% is the normal of BA required to keep bacteria from growing.

BB is only REQUIRED for those hormones that aren't very soluble in oil (ex. deca). You could make test E with no bb for example.

[Mr Ontario]

Human Farmak Prop doesn't hurt :)

[St]

What do you mean by it doesn't like you? Ethyl oleate can be used. There are various formulations you can use.


Many people can't take test from side effect,but since prop only last only a few day until it out of the system,then the side effect will stop faster,that long ester that are in the body.

[Ghost_Shadow]

I meant it doesn't love me b/c of the pain it gives me. The strength gains arre ridiculous! They last well after my cycle... for months!

[Big D]

I feel your pain man i've been getting some bad shots. well using some painful gear anyways, 1ml t400 blend and 1 ml profina every second day.

[waderow]

I just brewed some painless test prop 200

2:20 ba:bb with the oil displacement split 80:20 eo:gso

[fireflyer]

My test e is killing me and it's only 200mg/ml - never felt that before. Tried cutting the shot with my var but that hurts more (3 ml shots always seem to). They did apologize and said the BA might be to high. Never tried dealing with powder but would assume it'd be a lot cheaper. Guys have told me to warm it first, change the needle gage etc... whatever - it hurts sometimes - I just deal with it. It's not like you'll stop doing it because it hurts unless you actually can't lift because it hurts so bad.

[bongd]

Ouch!! Why such high BA? Might as well use vinegar if you're gonna go that route lol

I would just cut it and hope that your body learns to tolerate it. My first few bouts with high dosed BA had me breaking out in hives whenever too much heat or pressure was applied to my skin. It was horrible but my body learned to cope.

[steve_o]

If I were to cut my Test Prop100 with EO, would .5mlEO/1mlTP be enough to lessen the pain. I was going to go 1:1 ratio but that would mean I am injecting 3ml EOD and that is too much for me at one time.