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cnelson09
22-07-2009, 09:04 AM
I Searched the thread but couldnt really find any hard evidence on this just opinions...

i heard that mixing milk with your whey slows the digestion of the whey because milk is 80% casein... anybody got an opinion on this or any links to studies about it???

thanks

dainbramaged
22-07-2009, 01:12 PM
Pretty sure that's right. I'm not sure if it is in fact 80% casein unrefined (might be, I just don't know). I do know, and have read, that milk does congeal in the stomach, which blunts digestion since it becomes like a gel (which is what casein does). Keep in mind too that milk also has, depending on what % it is), fat and carbs which will also contribute to slowing down the digestion process.

BritishColumbian
22-07-2009, 07:15 PM
Yup! I started using water only with shakes about 2 years ago. Besides milk is for baby cows. Also milk contains alot of sugar.

Timbo89
23-07-2009, 11:59 AM
ur worried about sugar post workout? lol.

Drummer
23-07-2009, 01:43 PM
There is a lot of talk about how "fast" you should be digesting PWO. I dont buy into the hype myself. I use skim milk with a pre workout shake (whey, creatine, glutamine) and eat some good carbs like oats. After workout, ive also been using milk with whey and dextrose. Im not seeing any difference, except that i like the shakes better, and the extra added proteins and lactose (milk sugar) that i get.

Milk is not for everyone. Ive read that some people can digest it very well, some cant. If i remember correctly, it was related to blood type among other things. I for one love milk and get a lot of nutes from it. I drink at least a 1.5 litres a day.

~D~

L3
23-07-2009, 02:32 PM
milk has fat. fat will slow down the digestion/absorbtion of protein. not what you want PWO.

punkrock
24-07-2009, 05:00 AM
I'd agree with drummer on this. I take milk everytime and feel great afterwards. I think as long as you take the shake within 15 minutes of your workout it should be fine. Maybe some people have a hard time digesting dairy so it doesn't work for them.

MMASTAR
24-07-2009, 07:54 AM
We are the only mamal on the planet that drinks another mamals milk. And every other mamal quits drinking milk once they've tripled there birth weight. Some interesting facts.

Sean Summers
24-07-2009, 08:21 AM
I with Drummer on this one.
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hyperlite32
24-07-2009, 10:24 AM
I am with Sean on this one too...

Praetorian
24-07-2009, 10:47 AM
I Searched the thread but couldnt really find any hard evidence on this just opinions...

i heard that mixing milk with your whey slows the digestion of the whey because milk is 80% casein... anybody got an opinion on this or any links to studies about it???

thanks

Of course it does, adding any additional food can slow transit time significantly.
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O-Train
24-07-2009, 12:42 PM
There is a lot of talk about how "fast" you should be digesting PWO. I dont buy into the hype myself. I use skim milk with a pre workout shake (whey, creatine, glutamine) and eat some good carbs like oats. After workout, ive also been using milk with whey and dextrose. Im not seeing any difference, except that i like the shakes better, and the extra added proteins and lactose (milk sugar) that i get.

Milk is not for everyone. Ive read that some people can digest it very well, some cant. If i remember correctly, it was related to blood type among other things. I for one love milk and get a lot of nutes from it. I drink at least a 1.5 litres a day.

~D~

It's related to the amount of lactase enzyme which is responsible for breaking down lactose. Babies have a lot, some adults have very little or none. There is a genetic component involved. That's why some people become very bloated/gassy and uncomfortable after consuming dairy products or anything containing a lot of lactose.

Drummer
27-07-2009, 12:34 PM
It's related to the amount of lactase enzyme which is responsible for breaking down lactose. Babies have a lot, some adults have very little or none. There is a genetic component involved. That's why some people become very bloated/gassy and uncomfortable after consuming dairy products or anything containing a lot of lactose.

Good info Hurley, as usual

~D~

Ritch
27-07-2009, 12:44 PM
I`ve heard so much about this, I don`t know what to think anymore. For cutting, no milk. During a bulk, I`d say it`s fine. For postworkout I wouldn`t consider it because I bring the powder in a shaker and the milk wouldn`t be cold if I brought it to the gym. Although many don`t believe in fast acting proteins after a training, I still think it`s best to have a quick acting protein, so when you eat again within an hour or 2, you know you`ve digested the previous protein. A good way to gain weight during bulking is to drink a cup of chocolate milk with each meal.

JonnyO
27-07-2009, 02:32 PM
I`ve heard so much about this, I don`t know what to think anymore. For cutting, no milk. During a bulk, I`d say it`s fine. For postworkout I wouldn`t consider it because I bring the powder in a shaker and the milk wouldn`t be cold if I brought it to the gym. Although many don`t believe in fast acting proteins after a training, I still think it`s best to have a quick acting protein, so when you eat again within an hour or 2, you know you`ve digested the previous protein. A good way to gain weight during bulking is to drink a cup of chocolate milk with each meal.

I agree, you want something that's fast digesting so it breaks down and gets to your muscle as fast as possible. And I've done the chocolate milk thing, good to beef up, but wasnt in a good way, lol. Love choco milk though!

drdnj
27-07-2009, 04:00 PM
There are actually some pretty interesting studies on the benefits of post-workout milk ingestion. Albeit, there are tons of great studies that show the blood hyperaminoacidaemia associated with hydrolyzed (fast absorbing) whey is very important for post-exercise anabolic response.

Here are a couple links for some milk articles if you are interested:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16676705?ordinalpos=3&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18831752?ordinalpos=3&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18641722?ordinalpos=40&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

beretta96
28-07-2009, 09:34 AM
I'm with you on this one, although I do use 1% with cereal every 2nd morning. I've also read in an article (for what it's worth) that infants who drink cow's milk have more digestive issues then infants who drink their mother's milk. There's too much protein in cow's milk and not enough colustrum. It's made for cows not infants. I personally don't eat cheeses, cottage cheese, most definitely not processed cheeses.


We are the only mamal on the planet that drinks another mamals milk. And every other mamal quits drinking milk once they've tripled there birth weight. Some interesting facts.

Drummer
28-07-2009, 05:09 PM
It doesnt matter that we are the only mammal that drinks anothers milk. We are the only ones who do lots of things, so that is a moot point. We do it because we are smart enough to farm, harvest and refine the milk to make it suitable, and its a great source of many nutrients. Whether or not you are an individual with an intolerance or not is the only question. Does any other animal cook their meat? Well then, why should we? lol