gear switch mid cycle

[elmatador]

hey guys i was on atlantic prop and anavar for 4 weeks and then i had to switch to * since i couldn't get a hold of my hook up. I am on my 8 weeks right now. So been on * for 4 weeks. My strength has actually gone down and the muscle density seems to have gone down as well.

Is this normal when switching gear mid cycle? Or do i have a bad batch or something?

My diet is the same as it was when i was on * gear.

[nitrous]

so you are on the same compounds just different brand? and no delay betewen stopping and starting the other brand?

[elmatador]

sorry forgot to add. I am on a 12 week cycle

500mg prop, shot 125mg EOD
50mg Var ED
1mg Propecia ED
0.5mg Arimidex E3D
200 iu HCG twice a week till last shot of prop

[elmatador]

so you are on the same compounds just different brand? and no delay betewen stopping and starting the other brand?

yes sir, same compounds just different lab and my cycle was continous, i.e. i didn't miss any day of shots or anything.

[hulkster]

different quality for sure, looks like you got a different dose when you switched to the other brand. looks like you gotta up the dose

[Ritch]

Maybe the previous lab was overdosed?

[St]

Both are great labs,can't be from *,are you sleeping good,not out all night drinking Booze,i know someone at my gym that is parting and is losing size and Stenght and it from all the E that they take when they party.Has your diet change since you went from one lab to the other.How is your training?

[nitrous]

yes sir, same compounds just different lab and my cycle was continous, i.e. i didn't miss any day of shots or anything.

very interesting.. wish lab results were easier to come by..

could be what Ritch said or ST..

or it could even just be that you arent seeing the immediate gains you were cuz the beginnings of the cycle always seems so crazy when it first kicks in..

[theboss]

could be what Ritch said or ST..

or it could even just be that you arent seeing the immediate gains you were cuz the beginnings of the cycle always seems so crazy when it first kicks in..

x2

i think atlantic is fairly new right? i sometimes think new lab might 'overdose' the gear to get alot of hype about how great they are..but who really knows.........

[hulkster]

sometimes * can be shotty in my own experiance*, ive had a bad batch of eq and when i had 12 viles of tren en all lined up each one was a different shade of brown :S i dont know if the shade of brown has anything to do with quality but it just shook my confidence in that brand a little.......... and im not saying * is a bad UG im just sharing a person experiance

[St]

very interesting.. wish lab results were easier to come by..

could be what Ritch said or ST..

or it could even just be that you arent seeing the immediate gains you were cuz the beginnings of the cycle always seems so crazy when it first kicks in..

Ya your right it could be many things,but shit to name * from * will cause a shit storm,or any lab.

[elmatador]

I quit drinking alchohol a few yrs back, used to get into all sorts of trouble when drunk, ended up in jail quite a few times but thats another story.

i am getting 7.5 to 8 hrs of sleep everynight. I train at the gym 6 days a week.

2 days: Weight Training
1 days: Cardio
2 days: Weight Training
1 day: Cardio
1 day: Rest

Diet has stayed the same. Hopefully I am not exerting myself too much. I will up my dose by an extra 100mg a week and see how it goes from there. I will leave the var dose the same.

[St]

i am getting 7.5 to 8 hrs of sleep everynight. I train at the gym 6 days a week.

2 days: Weight Training
1 days: Cardio
2 days: Weight Training
1 day: Cardio
1 day: Rest

Diet has stayed the same. Hopefully I am not exerting myself too much. I will up my dose by an extra 100mg a week and see how it goes from there. I will leave the var dose the same.

Are you doing Cardio on your off-days from weight training.

[elmatador]

Sorry guys i didn't mean to bash any ugl or anything. This is my first cycle so i dont know what to expect and needed some input from you guys.

I can edit my original post to remove lab names if it helps.

[elmatador]

Are you doing Cardio on your off-days from weight training.

On my rest day i dont do shit, no cardio no weights. Complete resting day. Its only once a week so i think it should be okay to let your body rest a bit.

[St]

On my rest day i dont do shit, no cardio no weights. Complete resting day. Its only once a week so i think it should be okay to let your body rest a bit.

I don't know what to say,but either * was overdose,or some labs might be getting shitty powder from China, * has always been good to me,but maybe times have change,maybe there are more people out there with your problem that can add to your thread.

[elmatador]

Thanks for your input St. Yea, it is hard to say what is going on like you pointed out there could be many factors. I'll up the remainder of the dose and see how it goes from there.

[nisser]

Is your weight the same?

[theboss]

never a problem here either...but good point ST..could also be the powder they got.......so many variables.....so little time.

[elmatador]

Is your weight the same?

well i started off at 188, i went up to 197 in the first four weeks and then I plateaued for the 4 weeks after the switch, no weight gain at all, muscle density dropped, and strength dropped.

[nisser]

Sounds like you need to eat more. Your caloric needs changed.

[Ritch]

Sounds like you need to eat more. Your caloric needs changed.

That makes sense!

[Houstonbc]

Sounds like you need to eat more. Your caloric needs changed.

BINGO

Everyone is always very quick to blame the gear, the first 4 weeks of a prop cycle are always the best and then the gains will diminish a bit especially after you've gained 10lbs and havent upped your food intake.

[elmatador]

BINGO

Everyone is always very quick to blame the gear, the first 4 weeks of a prop cycle are always the best and then the gains will diminish a bit especially after you've gained 10lbs and havent upped your food intake.

No i wasn't blaming the gear. That was the only thing that changed in the cycle so i was wondering maybe that was it. But seems like you guys are right. I will up my calorie intake and see how things go.

my thread wasn't to bash any gear...sorry if it came across that way

[MikeyFXD35]

Im using * and getting good results in the beginning but you do have to eat more as your weight goes up which I'm not doing right now and I can feel it. I switch the var for dbol and that helped big time.

[Blitz-Test]

* is a made lab... You cant say a single negative thing, same with *, and *.

You will hear

You must have switched your diet
You must have changed your training
You must be sleeping less
Your previous lab must have been overdosed...


I only use * products aswell, but I cannot say it isnt possible for a single batch to be underdosed or something, these are ugls, * is good 99% of the time, 1% of underdosed isnt bad...

[elmatador]

I agree with you. Its most likely my calorie intake as mentioned by several ppl. I had kept it the same as before so maybe thats why i hit
a plateau.