HGH to treat arthritis?

[JifeLacket]

Hey guys, i have mild arthritis in both my elbows, i was diagnosed in grade 9 and had surgery that winter to clear things out. Docs are not too sure why but i was a super active kid, hockey and muay thai i think are the culprit (i took them wayyy to seriously) but yea.. it doesnt matter now, i have it! Luckily i found cycling so im putting myself to good use.... BUT, Could HGH do anything for repairing my cartilage?

Any tips or anything proactive i can do for myself? I havent noticed it getting any worse over the past 3-4 years so thats good.. At the very top of my rep range i have like 5-6" ROM where i can feel smooth cartilage on cartilage, no roughness etc. So i dont do any weights that involve my elbow joint flexing but obviously i kill my legs/back with squats and deads ad everything in between for sprinting... I have kinda just let it sit on the back burner but i kind of want to do something to try to help it.

Not sure where to put this either.. AAS since HGH is involved?

[JonnyO]

I've got arthritis as bad as it gets in my shoulder, so bad they said best thing for me is to get a shoulder replacement. I've tried Prolotherapy but didnt stick with it as the timing was bad but have heard good things about it helping.

As for GH, I been using on/off for a while and it hasnt helped any so I wouldnt count on it.

[JifeLacket]

bummer man, i take it you can still lift weights when you have arthritis.. Should i just lift sub maximal, full ROM? Will that make it way worse or am i underestimating my remaining cartilage.. Should i just live with all that grinding and roughness? :S I have always wanted to do stuff like clean/jerk, bench and pull exercises but ive been too afraid to make it worse..

[JonnyO]

I stopped training my shoulders for a full year! Now they are a better bodypart because I train them a lot smarter and with perfect form. No more 405 Smith military presses and 130lb DB presses and 275 standing presses as cool as those days were, lol. I just dealt with the pain on other bodyparts such as chest and back work like pulldowns. For chest I cant go over 120's at times unless I really keep my form tight and elbows in or else it grinds bad. Barbell work I cant go heavy but I can use the Smith machine and go heavy. For back work I cant do heavy pulldown work I need to be careful so my workouts are mainly row type movements.

I would try to avoid anything that would stress your injury and just find way to train around it, there will be for sure.

[Praetorian]

Hey guys, i have mild arthritis in both my elbows, i was diagnosed in grade 9 and had surgery that winter to clear things out. Docs are not too sure why but i was a super active kid, hockey and muay thai i think are the culprit (i took them wayyy to seriously) but yea.. it doesnt matter now, i have it! Luckily i found cycling so im putting myself to good use.... BUT, Could HGH do anything for repairing my cartilage?

Any tips or anything proactive i can do for myself? I havent noticed it getting any worse over the past 3-4 years so thats good.. At the very top of my rep range i have like 5-6" ROM where i can feel smooth cartilage on cartilage, no roughness etc. So i dont do any weights that involve my elbow joint flexing but obviously i kill my legs/back with squats and deads ad everything in between for sprinting... I have kinda just let it sit on the back burner but i kind of want to do something to try to help it.

Not sure where to put this either.. AAS since HGH is involved?

GH does help somewhat with joints but it is an expensive solution for the small amount of help you may gain. For joints the best advice I can give you is this:

1. use the conjugate method of training...ie if bench press is the first exercise for chest on day 1...next week for chest start with inclines...in other words dont do back to back exercises each week

2. Pennsaid is available by prescription from your GP...he wont have any issues giving it to you just ask...it was developed as a treatment for arthritis in the knees but works on all joints

3. Adequan is availlable without prescription from the US...it is an injectable POLYSULFATED GLYCOSAMINOGLYCAN that will alleviate tendon issues in weeks or less.

4. Make sure you are using correct form on all exercises.

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[#8]

Glucosamine helps repair hard cartilage. Take this every day for the rest of your life as well as the strongest anti inflammatory you can get your hands on.

[JifeLacket]

Thanks a bunch guys

[Praetorian]

Glucosamine helps repair hard cartilage. Take this every day for the rest of your life as well as the strongest anti inflammatory you can get your hands on.

I would caution against chronic NSAID usage. They can and will wreak havoc on your system...not to mention make muscle building more difficult. NSAIDs should be used temporarily to alleviate accute symptoms only.

A study done in 1998, published in The Journal of the American Medical Association, found that adverse drug reactions (ADRs) account for over 100,000 deaths of Americans every year. This study is describing both the medicines prescribed by doctors and the ones available over the counter. The authors wrote, "We deduced that ADRs may rank from the fourth to sixth leading cause of death (in U.S.)." Only heart disease, cancer, and lung disease kill more people than prescription drugs. Guess which drug class has the most frequent side effects and kills the most people? You guessed it, NSAIDs. NSAIDs are the most common reason for adverse drug event reporting to the Food and Drug Administration in the United States. Painkillers, including NSAIDs, topped the list as causing the most deaths.

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[ironwill]

would you consider glucosamine as deadly.....personally i dont...i think more about tylenol 3s, and advils etc when i think of antiinflammatories that wreak havoc on ones body...???

[Andre]

would you consider glucosamine as deadly.....personally i dont...i think more about tylenol 3s, and advils etc when i think of antiinflammatories that wreak havoc on ones body...???

Glucosamine, Chondroitin and MSM can be taken daily... not a miracle cure, but it helps!

[Praetorian]

would you consider glucosamine as deadly.....personally i dont...i think more about tylenol 3s, and advils etc when i think of antiinflammatories that wreak havoc on ones body...???

Glucosamine is not an NSAID.
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[ironwill]

Glucosamine is not an NSAID.
Pread what you wrote and quoted jersey 8 on ...i just dont want to confuse people.....you quoted him saying that one should use glutamine, then you wrote it is bad...lol....im not sure why you quoted his reply and wrote what you did bro...;)
sorry, i just reread...and he said use a strong anti inflammatory...my bad...

[#8]

i should have been more specific. i meant a natural anti inflammatory like acai, or certain enzymes. there are many foods that have very potent anti inflammatory properties.

NSAID's are horrible for ones liver and can lead to more serious problems than they cure.