Dymatize BCAA Complex 5050

[cnelson09]

Dymatize BCAA Complex 5050...

anybody ever try this product??
what did you think of it?
effectivness??
etc. any feedback will be greatly appreciated.

[St]

Bcaa's or Amino caps,or tabs are over priced,better off with a Protein Shake.Just look at the label as most do have about 15 grams Bcaa's per 100 grams of protein powder.In the Body Opus he said there is about 25 grams of Bcaa's per 100grams of Protein Powder.

[Blue Hefner]

It's your basic 2:1:1 bulk BCAA powder from a reputable brand. If you haven't unflavored branches chains before they don't taste all that great unless you mix it with a protein shake, MRP, etc.

[Ritch]

Mixing the BCAA in shakes renders it useless. Always in between meals, pre-during and after training if you`re going to use it.

[Blue Hefner]

Mixing the BCAA in shakes renders it useless. Always in between meals, pre-during and after training if you`re going to use it.

I like mine pre and during.

[cnelson09]

thanks, i usually just toss em in my mouth and wash them down with water or ill mix with crystal light.

[cnelson09]

i also use ON whey pre and postworkout so i think i get enough bcaas from that so i usually only use bcaa powder during workout and before bed

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

Dymatize BCAA Complex 5050...

anybody ever try this product??
what did you think of it?
effectivness??
etc. any feedback will be greatly appreciated.

Good Product, taste like shit though.... mix with protein, before, during, after training sessions.

[Ritch]

Good Product, taste like shit though.... mix with protein, before, during, after training sessions.

No, don`t mix it with protein, bad advice here.

[JonnyO]

No, don`t mix it with protein, bad advice here.

Care to elaborate bro?

[Ritch]

Care to elaborate bro?

Every expert I`ve ever read on this subject says so. Datbtrue on professionalmuscle can probably explain this better than me, but did talk about it in the peptide thread. I`m pretty sure Mauro PaDisquale advocates empty stoamch amino ingestion as well.

And like I was explaining in another thread, the l-tyrosine example. There is l-tyrosine in protein. But you won`t get the dopamine elevation from taking protein. You must load the tyrosine empty stomach without the other amino`s present in high quantity`s for it to work. Same thing to get growth hormone elevation from lysine, arginine and the others... It`s also most likely amino`s don`t get the props they deserve because the advice on how to take them was not given properly in the first place (empty stomach)

As you know ingesting protein increases nitrogen balance in your body. BCAA`s increase nitrogen balance. Wouldn`t you want the most peaks of nitrogen balance in your day? There`s a time (in between the meals) where you can get another nitrogen boost hence taking BCAA`s at this moment. They are also very anticabolic and make them ideal to take during training. Taking amino`s on a full stomach is as logical as taking say grhp-6 after a meal. Good supps or drugs, but the timming sucks.

[nisser]

That's a biggest crock of bullshit I've ever heard. You know that a lot of amino acids can interconvert between each other? What difference in effect would you get from taking a scoop of 20 aminos versus less of a single one.

edit: this is exactly what happens when people take supplments with little or no effect that can easily be overcome with placebo. People come up with wacky stupid theories to sound all cool and get publicity. There's no way to tell if their method is actually even good.



How about you need to take them in on a near empty stomach with 250mL egg whites, while standing on one foot and singing Halo by Beyonce. Only then will you get the full effect of this magical supplement.

[O-Train]

That's a biggest crock of bullshit I've ever heard. You know that a lot of amino acids can interconvert between each other? What difference in effect would you get from taking a scoop of 20 aminos versus less of a single one.

edit: this is exactly what happens when people take supplments with little or no effect that can easily be overcome with placebo. People come up with wacky stupid theories to sound all cool and get publicity. There's no way to tell if their method is actually even good.



How about you need to take them in on a near empty stomach with 250mL egg whites, while standing on one foot and singing Halo by Beyonce. Only then will you get the full effect of this magical supplement.

Lol, bravo. I agree.

In all honesty I started to notice a difference when I began supplementing with protein powder, dextrose and BCAA's postworkout (instead of just protein powder). HOWEVER. I noticed no difference when I substituted more protein powder for the BCAA's. I'm no "expert" but I'm not trying to sell anything either.

You can find pages and pages of literature on things that are basically insignificant in the grand scheme. I could sell ketchup popsicles to a woman in white gloves with all the information that is available. All people do is point things in whatever direction they want you to look.

1. Lots of high quality protein
2. Caloric surplus
3. High intensity progressive resistance training
4. Adequate rest and sleep

I think these are probably the only 4 things anyone really needs. If one of these things are lacking than in my opinion worrying about something else is taking the focus off of what is important.

This is the wrong thread for all this, I just like to ramble.

[Ritch]

How about you need to take them in on a near empty stomach with 250mL egg whites, while standing on one foot and singing Halo by Beyonce. Only then will you get the full effect of this magical supplement.

That sounds like a good idea, will have to give it a try. But still don`t give a shit what you guys say, as your opinion is surely dosen`t overpower what the experts have to say on it.

[Ritch]

One thing I wanted to mention about the bcaa`s and being extremely anti catabolic. When I used to hit the after hours, I`d pack bottles with gatorade and powdered bcaa`s in them and drink them throughout the night, and all day next day. Was always surprised how I never lost strength or muscle fullness. This is not me saying this, everyone would ask me how I partied all the time and never lost mass. Most guys when they hit this scene, shrink fast. Anyway, never really used them for gaining mass, but for dieting, they can really make a big difference.

[O-Train]

That sounds like a good idea, will have to give it a try. But still don`t give a shit what you guys say, as your opinion is surely dosen`t overpower what the experts have to say on it.

Ritch, have a told you about my ketchup popsicles. I have an internet special going on right now for Gold Member's only. :ji

[Ritch]

Ritch, have a told you about my ketchup popsicles. I have an internet special going on right now for Gold Member's only. :ji

The difference between the literature you read and my post is real life experience and the results it produces. No offense, but sometimes your nose seems too deep in the books bro!

[O-Train]

The difference between the literature you read and my post is real life experience and the results it produces. No offense, but sometimes your nose seems too deep in the books bro!

Oh really, well I have real life experience that says whey protein powder will do the same damn thing as BCAA's so don't waste your money. Not just postworkout either...empty stomach, full stomach etc.

May want to give the thread another read through to see who is refering to real life experience and who is talking out of someone elses ass.

[Ritch]

Oh really, well I have real life experience that says whey protein powder will do the same damn thing as BCAA's so don't waste your money. Not just postworkout either...empty stomach, full stomach etc.

May want to give the thread another read through to see who is refering to real life experience and who is talking out of someone elses ass.

I don`t know how you dosed your bcaa`s to not get good results, but for me it was something like 10pre, 20 during 20 after and sometimes another 10 before the second pre workout meal. Not many have tried doses that high and is probaly why they don`t get the results they`re looking for. Did forget to mention I did have a protein drink of 36 grams 30 minutes or so after the gatorade (100grams dextrose) and bcaa`s.

I see there is no convincing you and don`t really care. I`m more posting this for lurkers to read what info and experiences are out there to make a decision on what`s best for them.

Not trying to argue with you here but find it ironic as you the guy who posts so much scientific crap to back up statements, comes along with a reply along the lines of "science can be dug up to prove anything"

[nisser]

The difference between the literature you read and my post is real life experience and the results it produces. No offense, but sometimes your nose seems too deep in the books bro!

Placebo can be as high as 30%. Do you really think that taking BCAAs, and taking them in such a silly prescribed manner really give you more than 30% benefit.?

What Hurley said is right on. Those 4 are important and all of the rest is more or less gibberish.

[Ritch]

Placebo can be as high as 30%. Do you really think that taking BCAAs, and taking them in such a silly prescribed manner really give you more than 30% benefit.?

What Hurley said is right on. Those 4 are important and all of the rest is more or less gibberish.

Don`t know where you get the 30% figure from, but dosen`t really matter.

The 4 points listed are obviously correct. For sure if you`re in a state of caloric suplus, I don`t think the bcaa`s are necessary. As I said I never tried them on a bulking diet, only when cutting, and found they made a very big impact. I really found there was less doms and had the ability to keep strenght up while dieting and lot`s of other people report the same. Like any other topic not everythng one person ways will be 100% spot on with everybody... Chirst, some people claim glutamine helps them, while I `ve tried it in many ways, lot`s of times and find it to be a complete waste of money. So please get off my nuts, lol...

[nisser]

I dunno...i'm just a fan of not wasting money LOL. if you're going to supplement with something why not just get some var and throw it in instead; it's guaranteed to work better than a questionable dietary supplement :)

[Ritch]

I dunno...i'm just a fan of not wasting money LOL. if you're going to supplement with something why not just get some var and throw it in instead; it's guaranteed to work better than a questionable dietary supplement :)

LOL! For sure and this is why I`m putting more and more $$$ into gear now. Taking boatloads of supps kinda costs the same and the look you get from gear is something else to consider. I`m at an all time best now and it`s no coincidence why...

The amino`s I was thinking of using them after pct as an anti catabolic but am still hesitiating. To dose them the way I want is another $180 or so for 12weeks when I can get some ghrp-6 and run that at 100mcg 3 times a day for about the same price for a mere 2 weeks less of supply, I may just go with the ghrp-6 as it`s the anabolic bargain.

[grifter]

I was and still am using bcaa's. I was using ultimate nutrition's bcaa's 3xday, upon wake up, pwo, and before bed, with 5grams of glutamine along with 2 protein shake/day.
I noticed that I became more vascular during this protocol. Now, I am using a different brand and don't notice the same effects. I believe ultimate nutritions bcaa's had a high concentration/more amino's that the other brand I'm using now.
Maybe it's placebo maybe not but I enjoyed the results.
But as mentioned previously there are other peptides that will release GH in higher quantities and possibly cheaper.