Who is this

[Mastagon]

can anyone tell me who this is?
His legs look like they belong to another creature entirely

[Proteinkiller]

trey brewer team bsn

[fit226]

thats Trey Brewer from GA usa

[JonnyO]

Yes Thats Trey Brewer, currently 23 or 24 years old too the kids a MONSTER. I seen recent interview with him and he's a hard 287 right now.

[gustavo77]

Yup, Trey Brewer....he took a lot of flack last year for gaining too much in the offseason but came back at the NPC Nationals, ripped with a tiny waist.... his shape while standing there in that pic, reminds me of Arnold a little bit...although Trey has got way bigger wheels.

[Vitamin S]

too bad gh abuse and insulin gonna ruin his carrerr what ever happend to slow and steady gains, everyone wants to be mr. O at fukkin age 22 these days lol.

[C-money]

too bad gh abuse and insulin gonna ruin his carrerr what ever happend to slow and steady gains, everyone wants to be mr. O at fukkin age 22 these days lol.


I agree 100 percent, unbelievable potential, but i think hes trying to progress too fast IMO

[Knuckles28]

Wow crazy wheels!!!

[GYMBRAT]

too bad gh abuse and insulin gonna ruin his carrerr what ever happend to slow and steady gains, everyone wants to be mr. O at fukkin age 22 these days lol.

I agree, but I used to have that mentality when I was a young punk also....we all live and learn I guess lol

.....I'd still like to be that size shredded though :D

[Praetorian]

Gh and insulin ruining his career...are you slow....its called genetics...nothing to do with gear. hes a freak...do the same cycle as him and youll be lucky to be half his size.
Treys problem is shape and symmetry....its also very tough to live up to all the hype...so far he hasnt but hes young and has a tonne of time.
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[natenator]

Gh and insulin ruining his career...are you slow....its called genetics...nothing to do with gear. hes a freak...do the same cycle as him and youll be lucky to be half his size.
Treys problem is shape and symmetry....its also very tough to live up to all the hype...so far he hasnt but hes young and has a tonne of time.
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lol

[C-money]

Gh and insulin ruining his career...are you slow....its called genetics...nothing to do with gear. hes a freak...do the same cycle as him and youll be lucky to be half his size.
Treys problem is shape and symmetry....its also very tough to live up to all the hype...so far he hasnt but hes young and has a tonne of time.
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Call it whatever you will, this pic of him is a few years old, around the time of the excalibur i believe there he looks healthy, he already looks weathered with his latest showings compared to when he did the excalibur... extreme bulk phases then depleting himself so bad... i may not be an expert like some people. like i said just my opinion... Meh i just started cycling in early october with my first real cycle, half of his size is acheivable ;)

[Vitamin S]

if you look at how much muscle ronnie coleman has put on every year he has entered the mr.o (i don't know the exact numbers, but to put on quality LBM with every thing done right and i believe he is one we can say pretty much has nailed everything right on) its impossible to gain any higher than 2-8lbm of quality muscle pear year.

i think he would be better off making slower gains, if he's 22 or 23 at age 33 if he even gains 3lbm of lean mass that is 30 fukkin pounds of lean quality dense mass.

[Praetorian]

if you look at how much muscle ronnie coleman has put on every year he has entered the mr.o (i don't know the exact numbers, but to put on quality LBM with every thing done right and i believe he is one we can say pretty much has nailed everything right on) its impossible to gain any higher than 2-8lbm of quality muscle pear year.

i think he would be better off making slower gains, if he's 22 or 23 at age 33 if he even gains 3lbm of lean mass that is 30 fukkin pounds of lean quality dense mass.

Ronnie Coleman is a very slow gainer...he is a freak but things always have come slow for Ronnie...he wasnt even competitive his first few years as a pro. Comparing Trey to Ronnie is apples to oranges. Look at Phil Heath...Pro in three years and top three in the Mr O in 5. Talk about freak genetics and growing fast...nobody in the history of the sport was able to achieve what Phil did in a few years. It has nothing to do with gear or insulin or GH that is complete and utter bullshit spewed by people who are ignorant to the sport and have no clue what it takes to be pro. With Ronnie he grew slow but he just didnt stop....like most of us here....cycles work to an extent and then the gains come to a halt...not with Ronnie...they just keep coming.
When will guys realize that gear isnt the thing that propels guys to the top in any sport....its called genetics and work....if you dont have either you are doomed to mediocrity.
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[Praetorian]

Call it whatever you will, this pic of him is a few years old, around the time of the excalibur i believe there he looks healthy, he already looks weathered with his latest showings compared to when he did the excalibur... extreme bulk phases then depleting himself so bad... i may not be an expert like some people. like i said just my opinion... Meh i just started cycling in early october with my first real cycle, half of his size is acheivable ;)

Unless you have been living under a rock for the last decade or so you would see that most pros gain considerable size and yes fat offseason....ever see ronnie, Jay, Phil, Wolf, Branch offseason....its called bulked.
Nobody goes to the gym and says..hmm i only want to gain a bit of size....ill take it slow...WTF is that BS?
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[St]

Ronnie Coleman is a very slow gainer...he is a freak but things always have come slow for Ronnie...he wasnt even competitive his first few years as a pro. Comparing Trey to Ronnie is apples to oranges. Look at Phil Heath...Pro in three years and top three in the Mr O in 5. Talk about freak genetics and growing fast...nobody in the history of the sport was able to achieve what Phil did in a few years. It has nothing to do with gear or insulin or GH that is complete and utter bullshit spewed by people who are ignorant to the sport and have no clue what it takes to be pro. With Ronnie he grew slow but he just didnt stop....like most of us here....cycles work to an extent and then the gains come to a halt...not with Ronnie...they just keep coming.
When will guys realize that gear isnt the thing that propels guys to the top in any sport....its called genetics and work....if you dont have either you are doomed to mediocrity.
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Just Yates,got his Pro card in 1998,did his first show in 1990 against Mohammed Benaziza placed 2nd.
Then took off the year came back Won the 1991 Night of the Champions,then later went on to the 1991 Mr.O to place 2nd.

[C-money]

Unless you have been living under a rock for the last decade or so you would see that most pros gain considerable size and yes fat offseason....ever see ronnie, Jay, Phil, Wolf, Branch offseason....its called bulked.
Nobody goes to the gym and says..hmm i only want to gain a bit of size....ill take it slow...WTF is that BS?
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No shit bud.. Im saying he does it more extreme... 320 offseason, and contest shape 240 - 250 ish.. ronnie and jay get around 300 maybe a tad more and are on stage 275ish give or take.. the top pro are still vascular and still look a little hard offseason... brewer looks soft like a puff ball and when he cuts down he has now loose skin cause he gained so much fat. Like i said im no expert just stating my opinion, he has lots of time and crazy potential no need to rush it

[gustavo77]

Ronnie Coleman is a very slow gainer...
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Really?? How do you explain the 30lbs of lean mass he gained between the 2002 Olympia and the 2003 Olympia..... GH and slin has nothing to do with that i suppose...

[GYMBRAT]

Really?? How do you explain the 30lbs of lean mass he gained between the 2002 Olympia and the 2003 Olympia..... GH and slin has nothing to do with that i suppose...

EXACTLY what I was thinking!!!! wtf "have ya been living under a rock" or something (Praetorion) ....LOL

[Praetorian]

Really?? How do you explain the 30lbs of lean mass he gained between the 2002 Olympia and the 2003 Olympia..... GH and slin has nothing to do with that i suppose...

Its called eating food. Of course the pros are on GH, slin and gear...thats a givin but the reason Ronnie started to become competitive was the fact that he actually started to eat some serious food. Back in the early 90's when he was competing Lee Haney told him to stay close to contest shape offseason....thats the only way to make money. Once Ronnie started working with Chad....he started to eat and the gains started coming much faster. Ask Dave Palumbo about his experience...he was 228lbs at the 94 NPC Jr USA and in 95 a year later was 258lbs at the Jr Nationals and leaner yet. I spoke to him directly on the phone and asked him what he did to make such a huge gain...he said simply...ate like a horse (9-10 meals a day) and lifted extemely heavy.
The same thing goes for Ronnie....start eating and lifting heavy bingo. Drugs are always there and always will be...but they arent magic and dont do elevate you to freak status...that wishful thinking for guys with less than optimal genetics. everyone wants to believe its the drugs ....so and so is hige because he takes tonnes of gear, or using slin etc blah blah blah...its all bullshit and ego talking. I can take almost any client and add significant size to his frame by correcting his training, eating , and cycles....its not rocket science or magic.
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[Praetorian]

EXACTLY what I was thinking!!!! wtf "have ya been living under a rock" or something (Praetorion) ....LOL

Maybe not...but I would suggest you are quite naive about drug use in sports and in BB specifically. The first clue to this is basing athletes success on drugs...that screams ignorance and inexperience.
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[JonnyO]

.he said simply...ate like a horse (9-10 meals a day) and lifted extemely heavy.
The same thing goes for Ronnie....start eating and lifting heavy bingo. Drugs are always there and always will be...but they arent magic and dont do elevate you to freak status...that wishful thinking for guys with less than optimal genetics. everyone wants to believe its the drugs ....so and so is hige because he takes tonnes of gear, or using slin etc blah blah blah...its all bullshit and ego talking. I can take almost any client and add significant size to his frame by correcting his training, eating , and cycles....its not rocket science or magic.
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Dude you have taken the words right out of my mouth. I have helped guys, they find the diet very hard because of the food, its as if they are more looking fwd to some crazy ass cycle to be put together for them and when they see what I want them on they are disappointed and cant see themselves getting freaky. No cycle in the world is going to bring you to freak status if you dont push the envelope in training and the food table. Once you master eating the drugs are ising on the cake. Its a long road but you have to plan, plan, plan and then execute. A well put together, realistic game plan is what will make you a winner.

[Praetorian]

Just Yates,got his Pro card in 1998,did his first show in 1990 against Mohammed Benaziza placed 2nd.
Then took off the year came back Won the 1991 Night of the Champions,then later went on to the 1991 Mr.O to place 2nd.

Dont forget, (Yates is my fave by the way) even Yates took two tries at his pro card....was 2nd in 87. Took the heavy and overall and IFBB pro card in 88.Then was 2nd at the NOC behind Benaziza 90, then was 2nd to Haney in his first Olympia...Heath won his pro card first attempt, and won both rookie pro shows. Heaths history was first show 2003 tuned pro 2005 USA's. Dorian was more dominant as a pro and as a Mr O which I doubt even Phil could match...but he did rise fast.
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[C-money]

Its called eating food. Of course the pros are on GH, slin and gear...thats a givin but the reason Ronnie started to become competitive was the fact that he actually started to eat some serious food. Back in the early 90's when he was competing Lee Haney told him to stay close to contest shape offseason....thats the only way to make money. Once Ronnie started working with Chad....he started to eat and the gains started coming much faster. Ask Dave Palumbo about his experience...he was 228lbs at the 94 NPC Jr USA and in 95 a year later was 258lbs at the Jr Nationals and leaner yet. I spoke to him directly on the phone and asked him what he did to make such a huge gain...he said simply...ate like a horse (9-10 meals a day) and lifted extemely heavy.
The same thing goes for Ronnie....start eating and lifting heavy bingo. Drugs are always there and always will be...but they arent magic and dont do elevate you to freak status...that wishful thinking for guys with less than optimal genetics. everyone wants to believe its the drugs ....so and so is hige because he takes tonnes of gear, or using slin etc blah blah blah...its all bullshit and ego talking. I can take almost any client and add significant size to his frame by correcting his training, eating , and cycles....its not rocket science or magic.
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It all goes hand in hand... eat more, train harder/heavier, rest smarter, more drugs etc... if one of these factors increases it doesnt mean gains will be made, they all must increase to get optimal results... nobody is saying brewer is where he is cause of drug only... But im not gonna buy the bullshit of Ronnie gained that much quality of muscle from simply eating more(most people who are a ripped 260 know how to eat alot of food).. along with eating more id bet my life there was an increase in drugs amongs other things. Im not debating whether hard work and genetics are the most important factor, cause they are the most important. I think youre sounding a little naive thinking Ronnie gained it by just eating more

[gustavo77]

Its called eating food. Of course the pros are on GH, slin and gear...thats a givin but the reason Ronnie started to become competitive was the fact that he actually started to eat some serious food. Back in the early 90's when he was competing Lee Haney told him to stay close to contest shape offseason....thats the only way to make money. Once Ronnie started working with Chad....he started to eat and the gains started coming much faster. Ask Dave Palumbo about his experience...he was 228lbs at the 94 NPC Jr USA and in 95 a year later was 258lbs at the Jr Nationals and leaner yet. I spoke to him directly on the phone and asked him what he did to make such a huge gain...he said simply...ate like a horse (9-10 meals a day) and lifted extemely heavy.
The same thing goes for Ronnie....start eating and lifting heavy bingo. Drugs are always there and always will be...but they arent magic and dont do elevate you to freak status...that wishful thinking for guys with less than optimal genetics. everyone wants to believe its the drugs ....so and so is hige because he takes tonnes of gear, or using slin etc blah blah blah...its all bullshit and ego talking. I can take almost any client and add significant size to his frame by correcting his training, eating , and cycles....its not rocket science or magic.
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Although I agree with you that diet is the #1 key to growth, Ronnie's diet did not change that much from 1999-2003...In his videos he is always eating the same dam things...yet from 2002 Olympia to the 2003 Olympia, Ronnie put on close to 40lbs of muscle... I have to think there was a little more to that than just an extra few meals...

[Big D]

Although I agree with you that diet is the #1 key to growth, Ronnie's diet did not change that much from 1999-2003...In his videos he is always eating the same dam things...yet from 2002 Olympia to the 2003 Olympia, Ronnie put on close to 40lbs of muscle... I have to think there was a little more to that than just an extra few meals...

i've notice that also, but he might just be doing that for the videos ???????

[GYMBRAT]

Maybe not...but I would suggest you are quite naive about drug use in sports and in BB specifically. The first clue to this is basing athletes success on drugs...that screams ignorance and inexperience.
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lol, ok you win! ;)

[GYMBRAT]

Dude you have taken the words right out of my mouth. I have helped guys, they find the diet very hard because of the food, its as if they are more looking fwd to some crazy ass cycle to be put together for them and when they see what I want them on they are disappointed and cant see themselves getting freaky. No cycle in the world is going to bring you to freak status if you dont push the envelope in training and the food table. Once you master eating the drugs are ising on the cake. Its a long road but you have to plan, plan, plan and then execute. A well put together, realistic game plan is what will make you a winner.

I agree with this 100%...it's all relevant in this iron game, to not think this way would be simply "moronic", but one needs all of the above in place to succeed in this sport! So really I'm not disagreeing with Praetorion to say the least.

[JonnyO]

Look at Jay Cutler for example, I cant remember what year it was but it was around 2002, somewhere around there. He was a Weider boy, wasnt winning shows, placed lasst atthe O I think that year or the one before. I seen at a show at an expo in Seattle and it was a Flex booth with Gunter, Jay sat there alone nobody coming up to him while Gunter was swarmed. You couldnt help but feel for the guy and nobody would have thought he'd be fighting Ronnie for 1st place at the O the following few years. I think what got him there was pure dedication and consistency. And thats one thing I admire about Cutler. Im sure a boatload of drugs helps, and I've heard first hand from guys who are close to him what he gets (script) right from the Pharm, lol. And lots of GH, just look at him and Ronnies jaws and heads how they have grown, one thing--->REAL GH and LOTS of it.

[Praetorian]

It all goes hand in hand... eat more, train harder/heavier, rest smarter, more drugs etc... if one of these factors increases it doesnt mean gains will be made, they all must increase to get optimal results... nobody is saying brewer is where he is cause of drug only... But im not gonna buy the bullshit of Ronnie gained that much quality of muscle from simply eating more(most people who are a ripped 260 know how to eat alot of food).. along with eating more id bet my life there was an increase in drugs amongs other things. Im not debating whether hard work and genetics are the most important factor, cause they are the most important. I think youre sounding a little naive thinking Ronnie gained it by just eating more

Unfortunately it DOESNT go hand in hand. With aas just like any other drug there is a limiting factor to dosage...more isnt always better and if you over ride this the gains actually decrease to a point where the body will be fighting just to keep what it has. Its like protein....overdosing will actually halt gains. Remember GENETICS rules in BB. By the time Ronnie won the Olympia he had already competed as a pro for 7 years and 26 competitions...to think that a cycle change at this point added 30lbs of muscle is just ludicrous. Yes increasing dosages were probably used year to year...but again there is a limiting factor and after the duration of time he would be at that limit. Guys love to put all the credit on drugs but unfortunately thats just not the case.
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[C-money]

Unfortunately it DOESNT go hand in hand. With aas just like any other drug there is a limiting factor to dosage...more isnt always better and if you over ride this the gains actually decrease to a point where the body will be fighting just to keep what it has. Its like protein....overdosing will actually halt gains. Remember GENETICS rules in BB. By the time Ronnie won the Olympia he had already competed as a pro for 7 years and 26 competitions...to think that a cycle change at this point added 30lbs of muscle is just ludicrous. Yes increasing dosages were probably used year to year...but again there is a limiting factor and after the duration of time he would be at that limit. Guys love to put all the credit on drugs but unfortunately thats just not the case.
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Well obviously there are limiting factors, no shit you can stop pointing out the obvious..... the only reason im stating points is cause i feel like youre talking down to me like i dont know **** all, youd be surprised.... anyways i feel brewer at such a young age has been rushing his career and relying on drugs too much and gaining to much in the offseason, i feel he doesnt have that quality look as of now like a Brandon Curry... :puff Peace

[Praetorian]

Im sorry you feel that way...it was not my intention to talk down to anyone...only to illustrate the reality in sports and specifically BB. Trey has a unique physique which is completely different from Brandon Curry...you are talking Flex Wheeler vs Gunter here....apples and oranges. Just because he is freaky has no bearing on his drug use...in fact super freaks such as Lee Priest take very little gear which most guys would consider beginner like cycles.
When people start to relating dosages to freakiness and saying he is hurting his career with GH and slin...it just screams ignorance not to mention it promotes irresponsibility to younger guys because now they believe that the more gear they take the bigger they will get...completely false not to mention the health risks they will encounter.
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[C-money]

ok whatever you say P:ji

[St]

Dont forget, (Yates is my fave by the way) even Yates took two tries at his pro card....was 2nd in 87. Took the heavy and overall and IFBB pro card in 88.Then was 2nd at the NOC behind Benaziza 90, then was 2nd to Haney in his first Olympia...Heath won his pro card first attempt, and won both rookie pro shows. Heaths history was first show 2003 tuned pro 2005 USA's. Dorian was more dominant as a pro and as a Mr O which I doubt even Phil could match...but he did rise fast.
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Yep Yates is my Favorite have both of His Books,and is VHS video,and going to get the Yates DVD,and the Mark Dugdale video with Yates.Phil is good different time and Era.

[LIVEHARD]

I'm sorry you feel that way...it was not my intention to talk down to anyone...only to illustrate the reality in sports and specifically BB. Trey has a unique physique which is completely different from Brandon Curry...you are talking Flex Wheeler vs Gunter here....apples and oranges. Just because he is freaky has no bearing on his drug use...in fact super freaks such as Lee Priest take very little gear which most guys would consider beginner like cycles.
When people start to relating dosages to freakiness and saying he is hurting his career with GH and slin...it just screams ignorance not to mention it promotes irresponsibility to younger guys because now they believe that the more gear they take the bigger they will get...completely false not to mention the health risks they will encounter.
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Good post I have scene a few gym freaks There a guy that i have known for years i remember him in his late teens 6 months at the gym bench of 315 now he is 45 he does 4 set 12-15 with 405-425 never juiced has ABS year round alway under 12%BF easy

Genetics play a huge role I always could dunk a BK ball and break 11.5 seconds in the 100 since i was a kid You either have it or you don't !

Your either a pedigree or a pooch