Can you Cut?

[spiderman7]

I got some test e floating around and was wondering at a low dose(200/250) could I use it for a cut? Maybe add in some winstrol? Is 250 enough to keep the libido going while doing a winny cut?

[gustavo77]

I'd have to say yes to all of your questions and just add that of course your diet will ultimately dictate your results....

[tarnow]

I'd have to say yes to all of your questions and just add that of course your diet will ultimately dictate your results....

x2. I always lean out during a test cycle regardless of the ester being used.

[spiderman7]

Thanks. Will running Hcg or Nolva along with the cycle help maitain libido?

[Mr.Freeze]

For libido issue i guees it would be ok! but Winny for cutting?? if your already lean ok but if not useless!

[Mr.Freeze]

and welcome aboard :D

[spiderman7]

and welcome aboard :D

Thanks Bro. Then what for cutting? I'm a Tri/Bi athlete. Not looking for much in terms of size. Any suggestions would help besides HGH since its too expensive.

[Mr.Freeze]

product for cutting would be clenbuterol, albuterol,cytomel,EC stack ..

[Bowlcut]

product for cutting would be clenbuterol, albuterol,cytomel,EC stack ..

Problem with ECA stack is that the E puts holes in the stomach lining. If one gets a hole the stomach they can get joint pain because if they do not chew properly collagen from chicken will be absorbed and the body's auto immune response will see inflammation in joints.

YNCA won't do that however, plus the yohimbe doesn't make your penis disappear like Ephedrine will. :D

[Mr.Freeze]

yeah but im not into nicotine but yohimbe is good!as for ephedrine it could be,but at the end every drugs has side effect.its more of a personal choice i think!

[Bowlcut]

yeah but im not into nicotine but yohimbe is good!as for ephedrine it could be,but at the end every drugs has side effect.its more of a personal choice i think!

Un quebecois qui ne fume pas?

[spiderman7]

Hard to get yohimbe in these parts. Any suggestions.

[Mr.Freeze]

Un quebecois qui ne fume pas?

pas la cigarette!:D

[gustavo77]

Thanks. Will running Hcg or Nolva along with the cycle help maitain libido?

HCG definitely will help with libido, nolva will not...though a real A.I. (Aromasin, Arimidex or Letro) will help by keep estrogen levels in normal range on cycle and lowering SHBG levels, thus boosting sex drive and gains.

[spiderman7]

HCG definitely will help with libido, nolva will not...though a real A.I. (Aromasin, Arimidex or Letro) will help by keep estrogen levels in normal range on cycle and lowering SHBG levels, thus boosting sex drive and gains.

I thought letro killed the sex drive? I ahve a bottle laying around, whats a
normal dose for a low dose cycle?

[Bowlcut]

HCG definitely will help with libido, nolva will not...though a real A.I. (Aromasin, Arimidex or Letro) will help by keep estrogen levels in normal range on cycle and lowering SHBG levels, thus boosting sex drive and gains.

However too low estrogen gives some problems.

That's why it is a bit of a balancing act try to figure out what works.

[bigdaddydrew123]

Thanks Bro. Then what for cutting? I'm a Tri/Bi athlete. Not looking for much in terms of size. Any suggestions would help besides HGH since its too expensive.
you do triathlons and you need to cut bf, wouldnt all that cardio keep you thin, ive never seen a fat triathelete, what are your goals ,improve performance, strength. prob not size. anavar is a good drug for strength not much size, maybe winstrol too def not test

[bigdaddydrew123]

Problem with ECA stack is that the E puts holes in the stomach lining. If one gets a hole the stomach they can get joint pain because if they do not chew properly collagen from chicken will be absorbed and the body's auto immune response will see inflammation in joints.

YNCA won't do that however, plus the yohimbe doesn't make your penis disappear like Ephedrine will. :Dnever heard of ynca stack what is it, how effective is it.

[spiderman7]

you do triathlons and you need to cut bf, wouldnt all that cardio keep you thin, ive never seen a fat triathelete, what are your goals ,improve performance, strength. prob not size. anavar is a good drug for strength not much size, maybe winstrol too def not test

I was going to keep the dose of test low to stop the libido effects I may get from winstrol. I am not as fat as you think, I was just wishing not to add any fat from the test e and increase my recovery and strength. I've tried Anavar it killed my cardio and libido. My other option is Oral Turinabol. And why not a low dose of test? It will help recover quicker and if bloat is kept to a minimal will it not increase training intensity?

[Bowlcut]

never heard of ynca stack what is it, how effective is it.

Yohimbine, Caffeine, Nicotine, Albuterol

I find it blows ECA away and the random boners from the Y are amazing. Kinda random, but when you watch CNN watch out for some of their cute newscasters.

[ergie]

HCG definitely will help with libido, nolva will not...though a real A.I. (Aromasin, Arimidex or Letro) will help by keep estrogen levels in normal range on cycle and lowering SHBG levels, thus boosting sex drive and gains.

Letro kills the libido Gustopher, a little estrogen is req'd for a healthy sex drive and letro blocks out way to much.

[spiderman7]

Yohimbine, Caffeine, Nicotine, Albuterol

I find it blows ECA away and the random boners from the Y are amazing. Kinda random, but when you watch CNN watch out for some of their cute newscasters.

Could you tell me the dose of each and the frequency you need to take them on a daily bases?

[Mr.Freeze]

yohimbine 5mg
nicotine 1mg
caffeine 100mg
albuterol 5mg
take this 2-3 time a day.:)

[AlbertaBeef]

yohimbine 5mg
nicotine 1mg
caffeine 100mg
albuterol 5mg
take this 2-3 time a day.:)

I've seen this a couple of times but I have to ask,
Where do you get your nicotine??

[ergie]

I find 2 per day to be more than enough, take three and you'll feel like a crackhead.

[spiderman7]

I've heard that albuterol works wonders when it comes to improving your endurance. So I have read on another board. So would I be better off running
the YNCA stack then running a low dose of test e/winny 25mg/ed for cardio speed training?Or a low dose test along with the YNCA stack. Quick I need to put my order in.

[gustavo77]

I thought letro killed the sex drive? I ahve a bottle laying around, whats a
normal dose for a low dose cycle?

Yes letro at high doses (driving estrogen too low) can cause sex drive issues. But if used at the appropriate dose Letro will keep estrogen levels in the normal range and lower SHBG. Not sure what you mean by low dose cycle bro, but if you mean 400-500mg of test per week, i would suggest 0.5-1.25mg of letro ed. Start at the lower end and access your sides and then tweak the dosage till you find the right amount for yourself. On a side not, i see a lot of posts around stated that letro lowers estrogen 99%....this is not accurate and when these claims are made there is no legit scientific data presented to confirm this 90% decrease....

Here is a real clinical study on letro and is done on normal males with normal estrogen levels, not males with 500-1000mg of test in them and sky high estrogen levels. In this study with Normal males Letrozole reduced estrogen by 46-62%, also check out how high Letro increased LH and T levels. Can anyone say powerful PCT drug?? Here's the link:

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/90/10/5717?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=SHBG&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=200&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT




However too low estrogen gives some problems.

That's why it is a bit of a balancing act try to figure out what works.

Definitely a balancing act bro, but i believe that 0.5mg of adex ed or 25mg of aromasin daily keeps my estrogen levels in or about normal range while on 500-750mg of test....

[Bowlcut]

I've heard that albuterol works wonders when it comes to improving your endurance. So I have read on another board. So would I be better off running
the YNCA stack then running a low dose of test e/winny 25mg/ed for cardio speed training?Or a low dose test along with the YNCA stack. Quick I need to put my order in.

It depends on your BF % and goals for what to use. If you are sub 10% BF waste your time with aerobic exercise? If you are above 10% then taking a YNCA first thing in the morning on an empty stomach then going for aerobic activity is ideal.

Aerobic exercise for lean athletes on an empty stomach is catabolic but not so for fat people.

And as Gustavo mentioned using AI's is basically a balancing act. It would be nice to people able to get bloodwork done once a week and see how your body responds, but that is not practical in our given health care system.

[spiderman7]

It depends on your BF % and goals for what to use. If you are sub 10% BF waste your time with aerobic exercise? If you are above 10% then taking a YNCA first thing in the morning on an empty stomach then going for aerobic activity is ideal.

Aerobic exercise for lean athletes on an empty stomach is catabolic but not so for fat people.

And as Gustavo mentioned using AI's is basically a balancing act. It would be nice to people able to get bloodwork done once a week and see how your body responds, but that is not practical in our given health care system.

So YNCA is better then Winny to get you training hard? Should I cut the low dose of Test e 250mg/week?

[Bowlcut]

So YNCA is better then Winny to get you training hard? Should I cut the low dose of Test e 250mg/week?

I don't think you need anything but discipline and motivation to train hard. If you are in a high percentage of BF then I would say take something like YCNA and cut down to the 10% level. At higher %s of BF gear use has more side effects because of the higher levels of estrogen in the body.

I am still kinda lost as to what kind of goals you have.

[Mr.Freeze]

(I am still kinda lost as to what kind of goals you have.)
Im starting me too!

[spiderman7]

I don't think you need anything but discipline and motivation to train hard. If you are in a high percentage of BF then I would say take something like YCNA and cut down to the 10% level. At higher %s of BF gear use has more side effects because of the higher levels of estrogen in the body.

I am still kinda lost as to what kind of goals you have.

Cut weight and get faster,while maitaining muscle.Will it work a low dose test e 250mg a week and the ynca stack.Should I cut the test out . I'm only using it for its ability to hold on to the muscle and to recoperate quicker.What do you think?

[spiderman7]

I don't think you need anything but discipline and motivation to train hard. If you are in a high percentage of BF then I would say take something like YCNA and cut down to the 10% level. At higher %s of BF gear use has more side effects because of the higher levels of estrogen in the body.

I am still kinda lost as to what kind of goals you have.

How long would one run the YNCA stack before taking a break?

[macka]

spiderman7 to lose bf you need diet, to get faster you need to vary your training. Explosive training and training for your event wearing extra weight will pay more dividends then using AAS or other enhancers. Explosive training is not going fast and bouncing the weights, but using a controlled descent and without bouncing, burst the weight upwards with maximum force. When you are training cardio, you need to do things like Texas wind sprints and power dragging (literally dragging a heavy weight in a harness for 100 metres at a time like a 150 pound sledge). Your diet has to be higher in essential fats and proteins, with good clean low GI carbs with protein making 50%, carbs 20%and fats 30%. The fats help with both energy and joint stability. Also vitamins ABD and E will help with the bodies ability to go longer and recover faster.