Cycling Proviron ?

[giannos]

Ok, so Proviron isn't anabolic on its own but it apparently binds very well to SHBG thus make your test more effective and increasing the amount of circulating free testosterone in your body... So Does anyone here use it exactly for these properties ?? I know some people use it for libido and run it all cycle but here's my question...

If you are to in effect cycle this, so lets say you use 50-100mg ED for 4 weeks. The Proviron will bind to SHBG and you should, in theory, get more bang out of your test dosage. But I think after about 4 weeks or so the body starts to release more SHBG trying to drag you back into a state of homeostasis. Do you think if we were to cycle this, say 4 weeks on then stop for 2-3 weeks then start again for another 4 weeks ( longer cycles ) that we could in essence "fool" the body and continue to get the high affinity to SHBG ??

Thinking out loud here...

[St]

I did Proviron for this purpose,same as winny i don't think it works in the real world,if it does work don't see any big difference is gains.Hey rememeber i'm the winny man,and live on Anti-estrogen almost year round,and i compete and in all these year i could only go up 1 weight class..Lightweight-Welterweight and that is in 13 years of competitions.

[giannos]

Ah, thanks for the feedback bro. These are things I like to hear - real world experience. It's funny how things in the real world and on paper don't always ad up.. I'm using Proviron now and playing around with doses and time wondering if it will make a difference...

Did you stay on Winny or Proviron for extended periods of time or did you try 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off ? How are the joints after all that Winny ? Man, my knees hurt thinking about it

[L3]

week 6 of 50mg proviron ED... i take it in one dose... maybe its just placebo but about an hour after ingestion my muscles look fuller and i am a lot hornier

[Ritch]

When you guys say proviron gives you a bigger bang for your buck whe using test, is there a number you can throw out? Like 600mg=800mg? Just trying to line things up for my next cycle...

[L3]

When you guys say proviron gives you a bigger bang for your buck whe using test, is there a number you can throw out?

i think there are too many variables here... potency of powder, proper sized caps, your own bodys SHBG production....

you can be sure tho it will make your test more "effective", and you can also save $$$ on not buying nolva/aromasin, depending on your sensitivity.

[giannos]

When you guys say proviron gives you a bigger bang for your buck whe using test, is there a number you can throw out? Like 600mg=800mg? Just trying to line things up for my next cycle...

This is what I am trying to figure out, in theory it should at first. but I think the body just releases more SHBG and then more or less renders in useless.

[giannos]

week 6 of 50mg proviron ED... i take it in one dose... maybe its just placebo but about an hour after ingestion my muscles look fuller and i am a lot hornier

Huh, I must be the only guy that doesn't get horny off this stuff. Doing 100mg a day now for the last week. Was doing 50 for 3 weeks before that. I'm on wack of EQ so I'm not sure if that's dragging my libido down ?

[nitrous]

i'm only on 25mg ED of proviron right now and i dont get super horny or anything either.. although i'm thinking i'm going to up the dosage for a few days next week to see what happens...


and yes i too have thought about this and cycling the proviron since i know your body will being to produce more SHBG.. i have no answer here at all..

[L3]

Huh, I must be the only guy that doesn't get horny off this stuff. Doing 100mg a day now for the last week. Was doing 50 for 3 weeks before that. I'm on wack of EQ so I'm not sure if that's dragging my libido down ?

this is my second time using proviron.

the first time there was no straight test in my system (just orals), and i wasnt horny.. i actually made a post being like WTF

now with the test E i feel a difference

[AlbertaBeef]

To my knowledge SHBG should only be an issue if you have been running high doses of test or you have been "on" for long extended periods. A person running a reasonable average cycle should not have SHBG over production so usually it's a waste aside from it's apparent hardening effect.

[gustavo77]

I have run proviron for a while now and i also run adex on cycle... i find a pretty substantial increase in libido and sexual performance with the combination of both of them but i notice it slightly more with the proviron.

I run 50mg of proviron per day and it seems to work well. I know for certain that when i ran NPP a few months ago, proviron helped immensely with libido/performance. Any form of nandrolone severely impacts my libido and i had no problems when i took the proviron.

As far as quantifying the gains from the addition of proviron to a cycle, i am not sure how one could...it will definitely make you a little dryer and harder but as far as muscle gains...????

[gustavo77]

Huh, I must be the only guy that doesn't get horny off this stuff. Doing 100mg a day now for the last week. Was doing 50 for 3 weeks before that. I'm on wack of EQ so I'm not sure if that's dragging my libido down ?

What's your cycle look like?? Runing any AI's??

[giannos]

What's your cycle look like?? Runing any AI's??



Test 500mg a week ( just upped it to 600 )
EQ 780mg a week
Aromasin 12.5-37mg a day depending. Started at 12.5 and then got puffy nipples so I went up to 37.5 now back down to 25..

Can the EQ cause a drop in libido ( never used EQ before )? the proviron seems to be hardening but no boost in sex drive

[Praetorian]

Ok, so Proviron isn't anabolic on its own but it apparently binds very well to SHBG thus make your test more effective and increasing the amount of circulating free testosterone in your body... So Does anyone here use it exactly for these properties ?? I know some people use it for libido and run it all cycle but here's my question...

If you are to in effect cycle this, so lets say you use 50-100mg ED for 4 weeks. The Proviron will bind to SHBG and you should, in theory, get more bang out of your test dosage. But I think after about 4 weeks or so the body starts to release more SHBG trying to drag you back into a state of homeostasis. Do you think if we were to cycle this, say 4 weeks on then stop for 2-3 weeks then start again for another 4 weeks ( longer cycles ) that we could in essence "fool" the body and continue to get the high affinity to SHBG ??

Thinking out loud here...

With the advent of third generation AI's Proviron is redundant and unnecessary as well it is less effective than an AI.
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[St]

Ah, thanks for the feedback bro. These are things I like to hear - real world experience. It's funny how things in the real world and on paper don't always ad up.. I'm using Proviron now and playing around with doses and time wondering if it will make a difference...

Did you stay on Winny or Proviron for extended periods of time or did you try 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off ? How are the joints after all that Winny ? Man, my knees hurt thinking about it

My cycles were 16 week of mainly Upjohn winny at 50mg eod,with 1-2 amp of testex Leo,or Testoviron,or Sten 2-4 amps,love sten the most.I would take Proviron for 5 month straight at 1 tabs HG Proviron From Columbia had a good friend go there and stock up of Proviron,then would stay off for 2 month then hit it again all over.Joint pain was okay,i trained high rep since winny hit the Red Type Muscle Fiber.Did lots of Drop sets or rest-pause,but back then i was Hungry when i trained,now is a different Story lost my Thunder when it come to Intensity with the injurys i got over the year from Hit style training.

[giannos]

With the advent of third generation AI's Proviron is redundant and unnecessary as well it is less effective than an AI.
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I was hoping you would chime in.. Do you see any benefit to using Proviron for its "claim" to making other steroids more effective ? Again, I am merely parroting what I have read. This is my first experience actually using it. I do notice that it does nothing to control my bloat, hence I am using Aroma for that...

[BAM]

^^^
Are you using UG or HG proviron?

[gustavo77]

Test 500mg a week ( just upped it to 600 )
EQ 780mg a week
Aromasin 12.5-37mg a day depending. Started at 12.5 and then got puffy nipples so I went up to 37.5 now back down to 25..

Can the EQ cause a drop in libido ( never used EQ before )? the proviron seems to be hardening but no boost in sex drive

Aromasin @25mg/day is the appropriate dose IMHO...can't see EQ lowering libido but everyone is different and will respond differently...you may want to give proviron a try, i know it works very well for me...

[L3]

Can the EQ cause a drop in libido ( never used EQ before )? the proviron seems to be hardening but no boost in sex drive

could be all mental bro... i hit the rippers a few weeks back... hot girls but nothing was going on down there for me even during hte lap dance the girl was pretty dissapointed

but randomly ill see a cutie with a short skirt walking down the street and i have to tuck it up behind the belt

[giannos]

^^^
Are you using UG or HG proviron?

UGL, from what I hear "It's good to go" lol

[giannos]

Aromasin @25mg/day is the appropriate dose IMHO...can't see EQ lowering libido but everyone is different and will respond differently...you may want to give proviron a try, i know it works very well for me...

Thanks Bro, did some fishing around and it seems allot bro's complain about a drop in libido from EQ.. Again, everyone reacts different and so many factors can casue libido issues.. Thanks for that advice



could be all mental bro... i hit the rippers a few weeks back... hot girls but nothing was going on down there for me even during hte lap dance the girl was pretty dissapointed

but randomly ill see a cutie with a short skirt walking down the street and i have to tuck it up behind the belt

Haha, random shorties ;) Things have never really been the same since I rode the Tren train hard last year. I can get hard and finish but the thought or excitement ( desire ) isn't there like it use to be.. I'll see once I drop the EQ and just cruise on test..

Cheers

[nitrous]

Thanks Bro, did some fishing around and it seems allot bro's complain about a drop in libido from EQ.. Again, everyone reacts different and so many factors can casue libido issues.. Thanks for that advice




Haha, random shorties ;) Things have never really been the same since I rode the Tren train hard last year. I can get hard and finish but the thought or excitement ( desire ) isn't there like it use to be.. I'll see once I drop the EQ and just cruise on test..

Cheers

very interesting.. i'm on test 500g EW and EQ 600mg EW right now... let me know what happens when you drop the EQ.. I am VERY curious to know

[Praetorian]

I was hoping you would chime in.. Do you see any benefit to using Proviron for its "claim" to making other steroids more effective ? Again, I am merely parroting what I have read. This is my first experience actually using it. I do notice that it does nothing to control my bloat, hence I am using Aroma for that...

Not at all....waste of money. It does not make other aas more effective. That ,ay sound nice in a scientific journal....but on real life its BS. It does is increase libido and combat estrogen but an AI will work much bettter and if your taking enough test libido isnt an issue.
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[giannos]

very interesting.. i'm on test 500g EW and EQ 600mg EW right now... let me know what happens when you drop the EQ.. I am VERY curious to know

for sure bro

[giannos]

Not at all....waste of money. It does not make other aas more effective. That ,ay sound nice in a scientific journal....but on real life its BS. It does is increase libido and combat estrogen but an AI will work much bettter and if your taking enough test libido isnt an issue.
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Good to know. I'll run the proviron out since I have it, but thanks for the heads up.

Giannos