Cycle for a 50 year old

[daande]

My dad is already on HRT. That androgel stuff I keep telling him to get his doc to put him on shots but the doctor said there is no difference. Anyways, I told my dad he should try a light cycle. He has never done steroids before. He doesnt want to get jacked or anything. He would like to loose some bodyfat maybe put on a few pounds of muscle but his main goal is to loose bodyfat. Give me your recommendations. Note: I have given him the same diet I am on and he has been following it for 4 days with no problems.

[baza]

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[Praetorian]

HGH would help more than added aas.
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[daande]

HGH is also very expensive what about running GHRP-6? Also, if one were to get HRT in injections what would they get per week? 100mg? or something

[theboss]

HGH would help more than added aas.
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agree...
but i think 250mg of test e/week would have him feeling GGGRRRREEEEAAATTT!!

[daande]

agree...
but i think 250mg of test e/week would have him feeling GGGRRRREEEEAAATTT!!

Since he is on the angrogel shit already should he keep running the androgel if I was to get him 250mg test e/week or should he go to an andropause clinic and see if they will perscribe him shots?

[theboss]

he could ask....but if not..stay on the gel....and add some Test inj. i think..
but HGH is the way to go.

[daande]

I got him a number for an andropause clinic in our area he is going to call them today I will let you know what happens.

[AlbertaBeef]

If he does run more test at his age he will most likey be more at risk for sides particularly estrogen which will only be compounded by a fair amount of body fat. Too much test could mess him right up. Start low test and have some AI's and SERM's on hand and get him physically active if he is mostly sedentary.

[daande]

He does cardio like spin classes he said next week he is going to start lifting weights.

[spiderman7]

If your Dad is an endurance type athlete then an hrt dose is all he needs to get in shape. The Doc will most likely have him in the upper ref range and it is easily done using Androgel if absorption is not an issue. He may add in something for joint lubrication to aid in the aches and recovery(low dose deca). If Dad is looking to add in some size, then Test E might aid him in that since he will need a bigger dose then Androgel could provide. Hgh would be great but only if the cost is of no issue.

Your Dad enjoy riding his bike and making improvements on it? Then To much test will cause water retention and some weight gain therefore slowing him down. Keep his trt dose in high normal range for recovery and add in hgh or Deca at small doses to aid in recovery.

[uphgrn]

Obviously your Father has had blood work and his test was low. Also they would have tested his PSA, and he should regularly have this tested at his age while on TRT. Normally they don't test your andogen level, but if possible this should be done as well for a referance. TRT is for life, no other way to say it, once extra test is needed your body will not start (re-start) making test to the level it once was. Normall or average dose is 100m/l per week, lots of Doc will prescibe 1 -200 m/l shot every 2 weeks or 1-400m/l shot once a month, but the best method is 1-100m/l shot weekly. But this amount is just a starting point, he will need to go regularly to get tested so he can get the correct amount, or the level at which he feels best, and only he can answer that question, although the Dr will try to tell him where is best for him. Also armidex is normally prescibed along with the test, although again some Dr are very cautious when prescibing a anti-estrogen pill used mainly for women so he will need lots of research to show to his Doc. As far as the gel tell the Dr he doesn't like the gooey sticky stuff all over him every day for the rest of his life, tell him his kids/grandkids are always crawling over him and he doesn't want any test getting on them, lots of excuses to get the shots instead of the cream. As far as deca, well you can get a prescibtion in Canada but you can't get anyone to fill it, no companies making it anymore, no money in cheap drugs that work, so you have to go UG or out of country for that. Good luck, but go slow with amounts, keep getting regular blood work (test/estrogen/psa/cholestral etc.. and blood pressure) till he has the whole system nailed down to correct dosing, lots to consider not just Test levels, but once he gets it right it will be worth the effort. Hope this helps.